modelpara Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I must say this is brilliant, not many manufacturers who listen to input of people from a forum and feedback to them on such a major model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidotrains Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share Posted September 15, 2014 Looks really great, my only comment comes from being an end user. Which may be summed up as "How do I get her apart?" This is usually something we address once we get the first samples, as it is near impossible to predict how easy or difficult it will be to disassemble a model just based on the design. When we get the first tooling samples, if it's near impossible to disassemble then we will revise the connecting method. With our FPA-4 locomotive (http://www.rapidotrains.com/fpa4.html) - we could not get the first samples open without destroying the thing. We adjusted the clips. But thanks for bringing that up as it's a very important point. -Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Thanks. Phew, Rapido keeping green monsters away.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks fantastic, just where's the sandwich holding the door open? See below..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 May be a scale Mr Tilt at his post? Pete Difficult to model the hair at the time I expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreds Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I realise you guys are well into this now and I am late coming to the table, but I am just blown away that any manufacturer has taken so much trouble, including co-opting some of the original APT-E team and listening so intently to the ultimate purchasers. It is amazing and a massive congratulations to all concerned. As a Scalefour member obviously I am looking at a model that can take P4 wheels so pleeeease don't compromise the model to make it go round dockside type track. Much better to adjust your track to suit than the other way round. (Or even make it P4!). Which brings me to a question. I do recall the APT-E being tested on the Western Region, with some well publicised pictures at Swindon. Unfortunately the old grey matter doesn't extend to recalling the extent of the testing. Presumably Something like Swindon - OOC or Reading I guess. To get there can anyone say which route it took, (I don't recall it being carted off on the back of a lorry as it would be nowadays), and where it was serviced? I am guessing it must have been refuelled somewhere. Now whilst I am delving around in the loft through years of ROs does anyone have the answer to hand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2014 Which brings me to a question. I do recall the APT-E being tested on the Western Region, with some well publicised pictures at Swindon. Unfortunately the old grey matter doesn't extend to recalling the extent of the testing. Presumably Something like Swindon - OOC or Reading I guess. Lots more info on the other APT-E thread - this is a link to a pic of it at Swindon. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Which brings me to a question. I do recall the APT-E being tested on the Western Region, with some well publicised pictures at Swindon. Unfortunately the old grey matter doesn't extend to recalling the extent of the testing. Presumably Something like Swindon - OOC or Reading I guess. To get there can anyone say which route it took, (I don't recall it being carted off on the back of a lorry as it would be nowadays), and where it was serviced? I am guessing it must have been refuelled somewhere. Now whilst I am delving around in the loft through years of ROs does anyone have the answer to hand? Yes, we did the Speed Record runs in August 1975 on the WR main line. The actual test runs, on Sundays, were carried out from Uffington Loop to Goring Station approx, and the occupation ended just before the Thames Bridge, see pic below. We ran as far west as Swindon on Fridays and Saturdays but we were only cleared for 125 mph on those days. The train was stabled at Old Oak Common for the three week period of the tests and we got there via a circuitous route through North London. We had a road tanker fuel us up at Uffington before each test run as the fuel tanks were woefully small, see 2nd pic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby-sulzer Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I would just like to thank Jason and all the guys at rapido for choosing the apt-e as their first uk model. From the first time I saw the prototype at shildon about five years ago I was hooked! And what an epic effort from a manufacturer listening to us moaning modellers, 3d scanning and a blog on rm web? I think other manufacturers need to seriously up their game! Just ordered mine with sound no (252) I think. Looking forward to warley, hope all goes well guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapidotrains Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 I would just like to thank Jason and all the guys at rapido for choosing the apt-e as their first uk model. From the first time I saw the prototype at shildon about five years ago I was hooked! And what an epic effort from a manufacturer listening to us moaning modellers, 3d scanning and a blog on rm web? I think other manufacturers need to seriously up their game! Just ordered mine with sound no (252) I think. Looking forward to warley, hope all goes well guys. We're most welcome and thanks a lot for the kind words! I got word that they've started cutting the steel. They take a break this week for the autumn festival but then they are back at it. We'll have some sort of bodge to display at Warley. -Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 30, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2014 Anybody else seen this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Anybody else seen this? I think I will stick with my order for Rapidos model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So excited about the prospect of this model - been hoping without believing until Rapido came along! Looking at the model in the display on Saturday at the NEC one word came to mind - 'Wow' Funds now allowing so today I have placed my order for the 'sound' fitted one - simply cannot wait. Currently I have just commenced track laying and by coincidence starting with my RTC depot - or my meagre interpretation of it at least. My question is (and I apologies if I have missed the answer elsewhere), 'What is the total length of the full 4 car model?' as I would like to make sure I have a siding long enough to accommodate it in my RTC depot. Many thanks to all at Rapido for what I think is going to be a stunning representation of APT-E. I'll also take a cheeky guess (like others) at HST Prototype Class 252 for the future - here's hoping! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The real thing was around 263 ft long so the model should be about 3 ft 9", or a tad over a metre if you must. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 There will be a Rapido scanning party next year for the next model (which everyone is whispering will be a Dean goods to go on Jason's Great Western branchline layout). I wonder how many people who saw the APT-E at Warley said "I had one of them APTs as a kid... Good to see one of these old Hornby ones on display!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I wonder how many people who saw the APT-E at Warley said "I had one of them APTs as a kid... Good to see one of these old Hornby ones on display!" Almost none as far as I heard, the great majority of the stand's visitors were true APT-E fans, and I was seriously impressed with the level of knowledge shown among them. That's especially considering how badly the train's history was, and sometimes still is, reported by the real railway media! I'm pleased to say that situation is improving now, maybe driven by the release of the Rapido model itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I had to really fight my way through the crowd to get a glimpse. When I eventually punched through I had a little "moment". Even at this stage in its development, its worthy of all the praise being bestowed upon it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 I had to really fight my way through the crowd to get a glimpse. When I eventually punched through I had a little "moment". And did you clean up the resulting mess..........? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublecee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I shuffled off quietly in the hope no one noticed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 I shuffled off quietly in the hope no one noticed. "Clean up to Aisle 5 please............." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winky84 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I had to really fight my way through the crowd to get a glimpse. When I eventually punched through I had a little "moment". Even at this stage in its development, its worthy of all the praise being bestowed upon it I think I was the second person there on Sunday. Doors opened at 9.15 and I went straight to the Rapido/Locomotion stand. Spent a good 45 minutes chatting to Bill, Jason and Kit. What a trio of great blokes to talk to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted November 27, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2014 I had a reasonable chat with Kit, basically said hello to Jason and didn't notice Bill (sorry), the APT-E is a lovely model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreds Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Hi Guy, Good question! See the attached image, which is from a few weeks ago (so the bogie design is much simpler than the final version). The bogies have been designed for OO, EM or 4mm/P4 wheelsets. I am sure someone in the UK will design drop-in EM and P4 wheelsets before too long, and when we start production we will be happy to share wheelset dimensions with any UK after-market producer that wishes to make them. We'll also be sure to include extra "Swiss Cheese" circles in the box so the wheelset supplier does not need to make them again. -Jason APT-E_Wheelsets.jpg Just a quick question then. What are the dimensions of the real wheel-sets and has anyone taken up the mantle to produce or commission any to P4 standards yet? (Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Not yet but I have adjusted mine to P4 gauge, need to turn the flanges down a bit though. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Just a quick question then. What are the dimensions of the real wheel-sets and has anyone taken up the mantle to produce or commission any to P4 standards yet? (Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere) Hm, I've got some numbers somewhere but can't remember where, typical. There were only two wheelset sizes used on the real thing, the E1 power bogie sets were a larger dia, and the articulated wheelsets were physically the same smaller ones on both the SA and E1T bogies. Actually IIRC the wheelset frames were the same too, just the major portion of the SA bogie was thrown away. (good thing too....) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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