themagicspanner Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Jock A wee bit more black and it should be there for your use. Been thinking about where to position a diesel tank for fuelling the shunter. Nothing fancy - just a tank on top of a couple of brick supports. Somewhere behind the main line out of the way of the sidings perhaps. Any thoughts. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 YES it's NO, Happy Jock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 NO it's YES... Anyway. I've been thinking about what building I'm going to have at the back of the scene. Right from the start I had thought it would be the typical corrugated iron type of shed that's typical of a steelwork fabricator's yard. I've been playing about with a few bits of foam board and some Slater's Plasticard and came to the conclusion that it was just going to turn into the same generic looking shed that you see on every other layout, so it got me thinking... This is the old granary building that stood at Duns station and is now in Thorburn's yard. I don't know why that hadn't been the plan from the start. Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Tonight's minor progress: Mike 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 That's the beauty of the P4 standard - near scale flangeways make a huge difference to the look of the track. There's a cracking EM model on here call Shenston Road but I think the slightly wider flangeways spoil what is, particularly in the photo I linked to, a wonderfully convincing scene. The poorly constructed crossing at the front of the scene doesn't help either, mind. Anyway - I'm not trying to start a gauge war. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Since deciding to model the granary I've decided that I'll have to procrastinate a little as buildings aren't my forte, so I've been continuing to build up the rubbish at the front of the layout. A couple of old pipes that look like they were just pushed from the back of a wagon, some sheets of corrugated iron and some pallets in various states of disrepair have joined the old sleepers. Here are some black and white shots of the 08 (still balancing) as it moves a BDA into one of the sidings. And here are some close-ups of the debris. Still in need of bedding in and obviously the glue is still to dry, but I'm pretty happy with the balsa pallets. Mike 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaming_chris Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Hi Mike Great looking pictures. Since applying the DAS clay and washes etc. have you done anymore work to the ballast area as in the pictures it looks very good. Regards, Chris Edit for spelling mistake Edited September 21, 2014 by steaming_chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Looking great David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thanks guys, Chris, I have done a little more work to the 'ballast'. The secret ingredient is Humbrol weathering powder. It takes away the harshness of the paint and adds a little more texture to the ground. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted September 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2014 Great pics, it's really coming along Cheers, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Cheers Paul, Nothing like a bit a of black and white photography to cover a multitude of sins... Rather excitingly, I just got an email from Ultrascale to say that my wheels have been completed. I could be propelling wagons by the end of the week. Maybe I should try to build the jigs for the AJs. Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Morning Mike, If you aren't too keen on buildings, you could always cheat and go with one of Justin's downloads from Model Railway Scenery. I think his warehouse could be adapted to a low relief background building. He is a nice accommodating chap who I'm sure would be delighted to help you even with bespoke items - it might be worth contacting him, his adverts often show at the top of the pages on here or otherwise its www.ModelRailwayScenery.com. Keep up the good work, I love the clutter. Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Jock, I'll resist the temptation to cheat. Last night I made a test piece of foam board with a skim of DAS so that I can try out scribing masonry - I think that's the way ahead. If I'm happy with that I'll try making the abutments and wingwalls for the bridge over the exit. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 So, the DAS on foamboard was not a success. The clay shrunk and the whole thing bent. Need to have a rethink... Finally got the wheels for the 08, so it doesn't need to sit precariously on the turnout any more. There are a few issues with the running performance as I think either the quartering or the length of the tie rods is out slightly, causing binding and the drive wheels to lift the chassis slightly. I've run it with the motor disconnected and the effect is still there. I ran out of time last night but my plan is to try running it un-powered with various degrees of connection between the rods and the wheels to see if I can trace the bother. On the scenic front I've been fairly busy expanding the muddy are at the front of the board and added a puddle. Here's the offending loco and the puddle. Unfortunately, the water material I've used doesn't stay as nice and reflective once it's dry but it does give an idea of the effect I'm trying to get. Mike 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Cheers - I quite like the composition of that shot - the best of a bad bunch I took in a hurry last night. Here's another. Mike 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 Nice puddle Mike!! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 Hi Mike Nice work on the track and 'grotty' ground works! Very effective. One suggestion on the stone work / brick work for your buildings. I've used tile grout applied to either a plasticard or foam-board odd plywood base. Because you are not using water, the covering does not have a tendency to shrink. Once applied allowed to dry and sanded flat, the stones / bricks can be carved. You will need to dampen a small area at a time to carve as the tile grout is too hard otherwise. I've used this for the bridge on my layout (Orchard Road) and also buildings (Burrington Arms). The puddles are great as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 Cheers Mudmagnet. I'll have a shot with the grout. On Tarbhit I used Polycell Onefill for the cobbles and sea wall but found it to be both hard to get in the right places when wet and a little on the soft side for scribing - often losing some of the intended detail. After a second unsuccessful attempt with the Javis 'water' I decided to try a different approach to the puddle. At the moment I'm repairing a 1 mm thick sheet of perspex with acrylic paint to represent the water. This is a technique that I've seen in a few places, most notably Marc Smith's 'Cashmores'. Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Here are a couple of photos of the unfinished puddle: I didn't get it in completely flat so there is a little bit of distortion on the reflections, but overall I think the effect is pretty good. Mike 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 if you want the water to be more reflective sometimes using silver like they do on mirrors might prove of value, or mixing it with silver and black mixed. This would not be a non reflective grey which is called silver...it must be an actual silvery finish like fore instance rail match polished steel which is better than their aluminium as it has dark properties as well as a reflective finish. Hope this is of interest. Must say added crafty clever as the palette of colour you use looks very realistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Cheers Jaz, Getting a bit bored of all of the mud so I've started doing some of the grass on the embankment at the front right of the layout. Mike 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Great pictures keep em coming David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Great pictures Mike, I love the puddles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Cheers guys, Small jobs appear to be getting done at the moment. For some reason I jumped out of bed this morning keen to make a 5' high fence for the bottom of the embankment. Here are a couple of shots of it before it was planted: And a couple of it in situ: A couple of weeks ago I was doing an internet search for this that and the other thing and found a wonderful thread on this site about Sutton Manor Colliery. It was the inspiration behind the puddles and what I hope will be suitable clutter. I particularly like the stuff sitting up against the fence in the fourth shot. I've even managed to build the AJ coupling jig and a couple of test couplings. Maybe the next job is to make the mounting jig and get them on some wagons. Mike 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Lovely workmanship as usual Mike, and what an informative link to 'Seen At Sutton Manor Colliery' - really good ideas for clutter and weathering! Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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