lmsforever Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Shame if the HST EC livery goes they look very smart now maybe a representation of the new livery on the power cars and just a new name on the trailers aka Preterdilno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 91117 complete with interim "sash" https://mobile.twitter.com/JaJaWa/status/571807225074851840/photo/1 The could of cleaned the carbon deposits off the bodyside above the nameplate first. All 91s bar 91110 and 91111 and all HSTs to have the "sash" treatment by Tuesday 3rd March... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astockfan101 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 here's one of a HST https://mobile.twitter.com/Virgin_TrainsEC/media/grid?idx=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danim Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 And here's a full shot of a 91 from virgin east coasts twitter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Sadly, that shape is better suited to any livery that graced an A4. I shall just have to keeping looking at Gilbert's PN layout more. Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 A couple at Grassthorpe; Rubbish shots I know, but I somehow felt compelled to have a look on the first day. I actually saw 3 91s and 2 DVTs with these stickers applied 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2015 Sadly, that shape is better suited to any livery that graced an A4. I shall just have to keeping looking at Gilbert's PN layout more. Stewart I thought they looked rather nice in GNER's dark blue (which I rather liked as a livery and who, as an operator, delivered what I found to be the best on-train level of passenger service the ECML has had since privyisation). Now of course it's down to razzamatazz and it will be interestingt to see what happens to on-train service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Now of course it's down to razzamatazz and it will be interestingt to see what happens to on-train serviceIn the short term nothing is going to change with on-train services, they are fairly similar to VTWC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The change that has happened is the sudden disappearance of the cheaper tickets. I have been booking advance tickets with East Coast for many years and what I was paying in the £30+ for a Thursday night ticket is now in the £60+. In addition my collection of reward points tickets appear unusable as there are no trains I can book to use them. The revised web site states if I cannot book reward seats it is because:- It's probably because there are no free tickets available for the journey you're trying to book. There are only a certain number of free tickets for each journey. We allocate them on a first-come-first-served basis, so try changing the time or the date you want to travel to find a journey which still has free tickets available. The number of free seats varies from train to train, and also depends on the time of day. There are generally fewer at peak times and none at all at particularly busy times of the year, such as Christmas and Easter. The last point is nonsense as I have used reward tickets at Easter before. In my anal mode I checked every day from today until the end of May and there are no rewards seats anywhere on the London - Newcastle corridor. Virgin advise me I can trade them in for Nectar points. Bit of a con going on here in my opinion. It was a good start to the day. At 7.00 this morning the revised website did not recognise London Kings Cross as a Virgin East Coast station!!!! I emailed a screen shot to them and by 10.00 it had been sorted out so good response by Virgin on that one. One Gem. East Coast tickets are more expensive through Virgin Trains than if booked with Virgin Trains East Coast. I understand the commercial reasons why but not good PR from a company that thrives on its' image. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 One Gem. East Coast tickets are more expensive through Virgin Trains than if booked with Virgin Trains East Coast. I understand the commercial reasons why but not good PR from a company that thrives on its' imageSimilar to the old East Coast online 10% discount If you read the VTEC price match, it's no wonder VTWC is more expensive, after all they want to keep the two operations separate this time I suspect your cheaper Advance Fares will appear once the fare box has been loaded It looks as if it has only been loaded to the end of March 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Phil Mc Posted March 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2015 Is 91101 going to get this treatment? I rather like its Flying Scotsman livery. Cheers, Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 A trio of pics from today, since I was over at the modelling shed. One of everything that's brand-able. 91109 (also the only silver 91 left) 91109 Stevenage 1-3-15 (V19191) by TimEaster, on Flickr 82204 (at the sharp end of the above shot) 82204 Stevenage 1-3-15 (V19190) by TimEaster, on Flickr 43317 accelerating north from the Stevenage stop. 43317 Stevenage 1-3-15 (V19195) by TimEaster, on Flickr Have to say I'm not entirely sold on the livery, but I'll see how the travel experience changes when I head up to Grantham and back on Wednesday. Is 91101 going to get this treatment? I rather like its Flying Scotsman livery. Cheers, Phil. From what I've heard, all special liveries are staying put. I'll wait and see....! Cheers, Tim 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purley Oaks Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 I suspect your cheaper Advance Fares will appear once the fare box has been loaded It looks as if it has only been loaded to the end of March 2015 A few weeks ago, EC were selling tickets up to six months in advance - anyone know if this is likely to continue? Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 A few weeks ago, EC were selling tickets up to six months in advance - anyone know if this is likely to continue?Yes, it is now a new franchise requirement that advance tickets are (depending on franchise, and eventually) available up to 12 months in advance VTEC have started off with Edinburgh and Newcastle available up to 5 months in advance (as this is all Network Rail could guarantee as at January 2015) All other routes are currently limited to the next timetable change The next batch of availability should commence from the middle of April and VTEC should then initially be offering 6 months in advance and by the end of the first year of the franchise will extend to 12 months in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purley Oaks Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Yes, it is now a new franchise requirement that advance tickets are (depending on franchise, and eventually) available up to 12 months in advance Thanks, mjkerr, at last ticketing moves into this century - booking so far in advance will mean checking for timetable alterations before travel. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2015 On board this morning, only changes visible are the lanyards worn by staff and the seat reservation tickets. No livery change to either HST seen this morning (43310 on the rear) or the set I'm on which has 'For the Fallen' as motive power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danim Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I have head that the 11am service from kc to Edinburgh will be in full new livery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiths park Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 91101 is still full Flying Scotsman livery. It's at Newcastle at the moment (09.56 02/03/15) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 Thanks, mjkerr, at last ticketing moves into this century - booking so far in advance will mean checking for timetable alterations before travel. Mal Technically the requirement has long been that fully updated train service alterations should be available on the system, and thus for reservations, on a 6 month horizon. Railtrack were totally unable to deliver it (and didn't even consider that they necessarily should) and it will be interesting to se if NR can manage it. It has to include all alterations including 'out of Rules' type jobs such as Reading this Easter - where the 12 week horizon seems to be fully observed as is nowadays usual for NR (and definitely wasn't the case for Railtrack). (It is, and long has been) standard practice on the European mainland although one or two national networks were not very good at it back in the 1990s - I remember a very nasty moment at an international timetable conference when the representatives of several affected countries got very upset with the Italians for their waywardness and it nearly resulted in the Austrians threatening physical violence.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) I have head that the 11am service from kc to Edinburgh will be in full new livery Just found this on Flickr... https://www.flickr.com/photos/64131793@N06/16691868632/in/photolist-rr1c1u-dNLNDM-dNSco1-qtLHbi-dNSnMC-r8Tg6s-dCZwb9-qtw1E6-rogpQu-oDRAXb-o7nzCC-ro95Ps-obaCCt-r8J6ih-r8RGDo-oFDcJR-r7cweX-rqkSzh-r8Nvhx-o7m3RL-rqixt8-r8SB4z-rr62WF-huMhek-huKYSw-dCKcqy-dCDMmP-dCDM3e-dCDMh6-dCKcnb-dDvYDB-pVoLKk-dNS36L-dNLDVZ-dDwacr-hcoFcd-cMtNiW-8fXw6E-cMtLUs-r8XpPm-o9oxKk-o1gbFB-nYkTeA-dNSjdY-o1g95z-oFLpo8-qf2uwx-dNSkTS-eiYjef-r8Cpoj-egbCom Will this livery be appearing on the 390's given they have not had a re-livery/ re-brand since built? Cheers Simon Edited March 2, 2015 by 87023Velocity 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danim Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Not that I'm aware of as this livery is Virgin Trains East Coast I beloved it is to differentiate between East and west coast companies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Will this livery be appearing on the 390's given they have not had a re-livery/ re-brand since built?The InterCity West Coast franchise is due for renewal in April 2017 The Class 390 units were built 2001 to 2004, and are due for repainting in 2016 to 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just seen the reliveried train going north through York ,like it makes a statement of newness and we are here to change things the swoosh on the coach side adds to the effect all in all a good effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivebunny Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just found this on Flickr... https://www.flickr.com/photos/64131793@N06/16691868632/in/photolist-rr1c1u-dNLNDM-dNSco1-qtLHbi-dNSnMC-r8Tg6s-dCZwb9-qtw1E6-rogpQu-oDRAXb-o7nzCC-ro95Ps-obaCCt-r8J6ih-r8RGDo-oFDcJR-r7cweX-rqkSzh-r8Nvhx-o7m3RL-rqixt8-r8SB4z-rr62WF-huMhek-huKYSw-dCKcqy-dCDMmP-dCDM3e-dCDMh6-dCKcnb-dDvYDB-pVoLKk-dNS36L-dNLDVZ-dDwacr-hcoFcd-cMtNiW-8fXw6E-cMtLUs-r8XpPm-o9oxKk-o1gbFB-nYkTeA-dNSjdY-o1g95z-oFLpo8-qf2uwx-dNSkTS-eiYjef-r8Cpoj-egbCom Didn't realise Virgin Cola had taken over Coca-Cola! Very nice livery though, the detail extending from the headlight clusters and side windows really make it suit the 91. The curved yellow panel is a nice touch too. JB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Just found this on Flickr... https://www.flickr.com/photos/64131793@N06/16691868632/in/photolist-rr1c1u-dNLNDM-dNSco1-qtLHbi-dNSnMC-r8Tg6s-dCZwb9-qtw1E6-rogpQu-oDRAXb-o7nzCC-ro95Ps-obaCCt-r8J6ih-r8RGDo-oFDcJR-r7cweX-rqkSzh-r8Nvhx-o7m3RL-rqixt8-r8SB4z-rr62WF-huMhek-huKYSw-dCKcqy-dCDMmP-dCDM3e-dCDMh6-dCKcnb-dDvYDB-pVoLKk-dNS36L-dNLDVZ-dDwacr-hcoFcd-cMtNiW-8fXw6E-cMtLUs-r8XpPm-o9oxKk-o1gbFB-nYkTeA-dNSjdY-o1g95z-oFLpo8-qf2uwx-dNSkTS-eiYjef-r8Cpoj-egbCom Will this livery be appearing on the 390's given they have not had a re-livery/ re-brand since built? Cheers Simon I love this livery.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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