844fan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I have to say I am a sucker for oddities. I enjoy the more obscure Locomotives and rolling stock. Now I want to do more research into this kind of thing for modeling. Anyone have any strange Goods rolling stock out there? I've found this It's a GWR Wagon that kinda looks a bit like a cross between a Standard Plank Wagon mixed with a flatbed. Anyone know more on this one? Any other interesting ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Sleeper works wagon, isn't it? Like Taunton Concrete used? EDIT to add: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrtauntonzcv Edited May 1, 2015 by 'CHARD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Sleeper works wagon, isn't it? Like Taunton Concrete used? EDIT to add: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/gwrtauntonzcv I do believe your right. So they were primarily used to carry Sleepers. But I'm guessing from their use with concrete works thay could handel other loads. Most likely crated goods and the like not sure if the could for example carry loose coal loads like a standard wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted May 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2015 I do believe your right. So they were primarily used to carry Sleepers. But I'm guessing from their use with concrete works thay could handel other loads. Most likely crated goods and the like not sure if the could for example carry loose coal loads like a standard wagon. There is no method of discharging coal or other loose materials Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I believe you will find that this type of wagon was part of the engineers special wagon fleet and not used in general revenue service. Gordon A Bristol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) There is no method of discharging coal or other loose materials Andy As I suspected. Well I suppose it could realistically be converted but as Gordon says below. I believe you will find that this type of wagon was part of the engineers special wagon fleet and not used in general revenue service. Gordon A Bristol Ah pitty that. I guess a few got out for other sevices but not too many I assume. Still could be a freelanced wagon of similar look out there. At least I know a good wagon type to use for my rail repair trains. For sleepers anyway. Hmm were there by chance any wagons like this for rail carrying? Beyond the typical conflats of course. Edited May 1, 2015 by 844fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) conflats could not be used for carrying rail as they are not fitted with bolsters and the vertical pins to stop the rails falling off the side. The usual wagons depending on the period you are interested in would be bogie bolsters possible with the odd single bolster or later on such wagons as the Salmon. Gordon A Bristol Edited May 1, 2015 by Gordon A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 GWS91200 formerly DW100682 was originally built without sides as a 'chaired sleeper' wagon later having the sides added for engineers traffic from Civil Engineers Taunton Concrete Works! Cambrian produce a kit for both versions in 4mm ! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Hatter Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 As built.http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=8243 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 For revenue traffic wagons that look unusual try the glass, pulley, and propellor trolley types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The one next to it in your photo is "quite interesting" too, not GW, but a BR ferry wagon. GWS have two apparently, http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/wagons/5267/5267.htmland http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/wagons/5268/5268.html and your original query - http://www.didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/wagons/100682/100682.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 There are all kinds of unusual wagons for very specific traffic. Did you have a particular area/era in mind? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Is that ferry wagon the one that was shunted from one side of the mainline to the other to supply coal to the GWS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Is that ferry wagon the one that was shunted from one side of the mainline to the other to supply coal to the GWS? Yep, should be one of a pair from memory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter220950 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Depending on the era you model, there have been some unusual foreign visitors that would make for unusual consists, 1920/30's (I think) into Bournville 1960's (again I think) the same location They all must have travelled via ferry ports to the Midlands. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Oh yes the famous Cadbury Chocolate Railway. I have plans to use thier Avonside tanks for industrial work in my work. As far as era mine is a fictional railway started in 1900. I'm kind of pulling a Awdry with my stock. Oh jwealleans in regaurds to your question I'm at the moment looking for wagons used in the day for track repair. As the engine I'm planing to have for the Rail inspection and general repair is small I need lighter wagons. Is it uncommon for a line to build freelance designed wagons? As I think if I can get away with it I'll make some mods to stock from the welsh narrow gauge track repair stock. Scale it up and add buffers and proper couplings. Hows that sound? Edited May 3, 2015 by 844fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 You don't mention era, but a couple of thoughts for you - gauging wagon (I think they're quite a modern thing) or a tunnel repair/inspection wagon - the LNER had one which was basically a van cut down to have a flat roof which served as a platform and access ladders at one end. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 You don't mention era, but a couple of thoughts for you - gauging wagon (I think they're quite a modern thing) or a tunnel repair/inspection wagon - the LNER had one which was basically a van cut down to have a flat roof which served as a platform and access ladders at one end. Nice gauging van can be modified from the BachmannMR/LMS brake van http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsbrakevan/e37cb8b03 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsbrakevan/e31cc4084 There were other similar conversions. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2015 Depending on the era you model, there have been some unusual foreign visitors that would make for unusual consists, 1920/30's (I think) into Bournville Picture 124.jpg Picture 118.jpg 1960's (again I think) the same location Picture 121.jpg Cadbury 1.jpg Cadbury 2.jpg They all must have travelled via ferry ports to the Midlands. The top two type vans were in use up until the 1960's, they were British built during WWI for the ROD. Some were even equipped with brakemens hutches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
844fan Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 You don't mention era, but a couple of thoughts for you - gauging wagon (I think they're quite a modern thing) or a tunnel repair/inspection wagon - the LNER had one which was basically a van cut down to have a flat roof which served as a platform and access ladders at one end. Hey thats a type of wagon I've never seen or heard of. I'll look at the photos that Hmrspaul linked. Hmm thought I had mentioned Era. But oh well I'm kinda going to be all over the place with that since I am having my line set through out the era of steam. So between the 1870s to the 1950s. like I said my Railway is a bit Awdryesqe as I'm a writer and for me the engines are characters as much as machines. As for what I meant in my discussion on the Narrow Gauge Track maintenance wagons I was meaning use those designs but rescale them so they run on standard Gauge as opposed to say the Talyllyn's 2 foot 3in. More or less adapt the wagon design to run on 4 foot 8 1/2 . They would look roughly the same but with buffers of some sort and chain couplings. Nice gauging van can be modified from the BachmannMR/LMS brake van http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsbrakevan/e37cb8b03 http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsbrakevan/e31cc4084 There were other similar conversions. Paul That does look like a easy conversion. A nice addition on the maintenance trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph benjamin Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Can anyone identify the wagon of the extreme left above the ballast wagon, sorry it's a poor copy of the photo on page 179 of Through Limestone Hills 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 That's some kind of track maintenance machine. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 20, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2021 A burnt out brake van? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Could be a twin-jib track re-layer ......... but the definition's not exactly crisp ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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