Steve-e Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 For added interest anyone out West on Wednesday 18th June there is a Compass tour from Whitehaven to Scarborough which may give possible photo ops at Whitehaven http://www.compassrail.co.uk/trips/130-Whitehaven-Scarborough-June-2015.cfm Other good locations are Dalston around 08:20 - 08:51 where you should get the loco hauled set passing the Dalston Grangemouth Tanks http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/DLS/2015/05/19/0822?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt Dont go on a Monday though the Grangemouth train is Tuesday - Saturday. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hi all, Are the DBSO's going to be used on these diagrams? Regards Vin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) a pleasant surprise today, instead of 37423,which has been on the test trains! Not a good sign for those tractor bashers, but good for us photography's!! Ray Edited April 29, 2015 by long island jack 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Article from the carlisle News and Star newspaper today. "More seats but slower journey times on Cumbria Coast rail line" Rail passengers in Cumbria will face slower journey times from next month, as train bosses sacrifice speed in the name of comfort. From May 18, travellers on the Cumbrian Coast line between Carlisle and Barrow will enjoy additional seating thanks to the introduction of new “loco hauled” trains. But Northern Rail has warned these slower trains, which will replace the cramped diesel multiple unit services, will extend journey times.... http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/more-seats-but-slower-journey-times-on-cumbria-coast-rail-line-1.1208611 I would have thought that a Class 37 or Class 57 would be just as fast as a sprinter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 I'd take comfort over a few minutes any day anyway, sounds like a big improvement. I've never travelled the Cumbrian Coast line and this is a great opportunity, but I'd say the same for any journey I make regularly (if there were still any, the only one I was doing vaguely regularly I stopped when it became faster and less comfortable.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven156 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Article from the carlisle News and Star newspaper today. "More seats but slower journey times on Cumbria Coast rail line" Rail passengers in Cumbria will face slower journey times from next month, as train bosses sacrifice speed in the name of comfort. From May 18, travellers on the Cumbrian Coast line between Carlisle and Barrow will enjoy additional seating thanks to the introduction of new “loco hauled” trains. But Northern Rail has warned these slower trains, which will replace the cramped diesel multiple unit services, will extend journey times.... http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/more-seats-but-slower-journey-times-on-cumbria-coast-rail-line-1.1208611 I would have thought that a Class 37 or Class 57 would be just as fast as a sprinter... It might be to do with extended dwell times at each station due to the use of slam door stock- central door locking and dispatch that goes with the use of loco hauled trains. Just takes one customer at coach one at the front of the train to get off the train, walk away without shutting the door behind them, conductor has to run all the way to the front to shut the door and that's how delays accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 Good point about the doors, especially with most people no longer used to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven156 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 This video shows how a DVT, Mark 3 and Class 90 set is dispatched from London. While it's mark 2 stock and class 37's the gist of it applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Hi all, Are the DBSO's going to be used on these diagrams? Regards Vin DRS only have two DBSO's anywhere near ready. Only one DRS DBSO has been released from RVEL so far - as of about two days ago. The other is still in RVEL Derby to my knowledge. A well known gen site is reporting that DRS may have acquired three more in the past few days, possibly for use on Anglia duties. Cheers, Mick Edited April 29, 2015 by newbryford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Mick, Thanks for the info on the DBSO's, I did think that these diagrams is why they bought them in the first place. Why are Northern rail making out that loco hauled is a bad subsitution for rancid DMU's that should have been scrapped 10 years ago? As the pacer fleet was only a cheap stop gap in the first place. Many thanks Vin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Back to normal today 423 standing at Workington 09.02 Ray 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 a long the sea wall at Harrington coasting into Workington leaving Workington few more of 423 from the last couple of days, only 16 more days to go, till start up, here's hoping all the problems will be sorted out,lack of stock only 5 coaches out of 12 needed(all the good stuff went to Anglia), availability of 37 4's, Northern train crew issues, platform lengthening behind schedule etc,hope this isn't a case of DRS " biting of more than they can chew"! Ray 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted May 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2015 Rather a motley collection of coach liveries there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted May 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2015 Apologies if its been mentioned but a similar DRS set up is happening on the Norwich - Great Yarmouth line, replacing DMU's. http://www.railmagazine.com/news/fleet/2015/03/19/class-37-hauled-trains-replace-london-great-yarmouth-through-trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) The times seem to be out now on Railtourinfo site. http://www.railtourinfo.co.uk/locohauled17.html May be of use to some of you! Ian Edited May 4, 2015 by 11B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 423 doing the test train all week, must be due a exam as 57301 turn up this morning on Tuesday got a call saying there was a skip due,67015 think it was on the returning North Briton, not sure Ray 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 no change on the test train still 423 leaving Workington station yesterday afternoon Ray 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) just for away of a change, don't know what the working is (it's maybe a replacement, in case a 153 fails!!!) Ray Edited May 14, 2015 by long island jack 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted May 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2015 Perhaps the 66 and one coach is for acceleration tests! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 rumour has it that 37419 and 423 will be the 2x 4's top and tailed with 2x 376xx's the late running test (10.07) today at Workington with 423-609 Ray 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2015 The times seem to be out now on Railtourinfo site. http://www.railtourinfo.co.uk/locohauled17.html May be of use to some of you! Ian There is also a Saturday service. Full ECS timings may be of use to photographers.. Monday - Friday Diagram 1 2C32 0515 Carlisle to Preston 0935 2C47 1004 Preston to Barrow-in-Furness 1133 5C47 1142 Barrow-in-Furness - Barrow C.S. 1145 5C41 1425 Barrow C.S. - Barrow-in-Furness 1428 2C41 1437 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 1728 2C42 1737 Carlisle - Barrow-in-Furness 2029 5C42 2038 Barrow-in-Furness - Barrow C.S. 2041 Diagram 2 5C33 0534 Barrow C.S. - Barrow-in-Furness 0537 2C33 0546 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 0833 2C40 0842 Carlisle to Barrow-in-Furness 1130 2C49 1138 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 1426 2C34 1435 Carlisle to Barrow-in-Furness 1722 2C47 1731 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 2031 Saturdays Diagram 1 2C32 0515 Carlisle - Barrow-in-Furness 0804 2C41 0845 Barrow-in-Furness - Carlisle 1135 2C48 1156 Carlisle - Lancaster 1608 2C31 1731 Lancaster - Barrow-in-Furness 1840 5C31 1848 Barrow-in-Furness - Barrow C.S. 1851 Diagram 2 5C33 0534 Barrow C.S. - Barrow-in-Furness 0537 2C33 0546 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 0833 2C40 0842 Carlisle to Barrow-in-Furness 1130 2C45 1138 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 1424 2C34 1433 Carlisle - Barrow-in-Furness 1723 2C47 1732 Barrow-in-Furness to Carlisle 2029 Gen from my local group. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2015 I can see the 1004 from Preston being popular with the neds. Into Barrow with 5 minutes to spare for the 1138 to Carlisle. I pity the normal passengers. Northern Rail have a £12.50 go anywhere offer with the local papers for the next few weeks. I have the tokens ready. Remind me not to go on the 1004....... Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Alternate day diagrams Mick. Diagram 1 Monday, Diagram 2 Tuesday, Diagram 1 Wednesday etc. Looked at going up on the first day but can't swing it with work. The 10.04 goes ECS til the 14.37 working on diagram 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Alternate day diagrams Mick. Diagram 1 Monday, Diagram 2 Tuesday, Diagram 1 Wednesday etc. Looked at going up on the first day but can't swing it with work. The 10.04 goes ECS til the 14.37 working on diagram 1. Exactly - Diagram 1 to Barrow, pick up diagram 2 from Barrow. That way, you get both locos. First day (and week) will be ned central - glad I can't make it either. At the moment, it looks like the DBSO's aren't ready, so top n tail is the plan - but they haven't got four 37/4's spare - yet! Cheers, Mick Edited May 15, 2015 by newbryford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11B Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 So with not enough 37/4's...... If I go down to Carnforth station every day I wonder what my chance of getting a ride behind either a 57, 66 or 68 will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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