David Todd Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) How the beach and the area looked in 1989.Notice, the height of the beach and the vegetation growing above the high water line.Copyright,Andy Howard. Edited January 30, 2016 by David Todd 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 How the beach and the area looked in 1989. image.jpeg Copyright,Andy Howard. Copyright Andy Howard. Same area, today, 1345 hours. by ferriesdover, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Can we play "Spot the difference"? A row of houses seems to have disappeared, and a row of lorry trailers is there instead. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Am a bit wary today, P1270046 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270050 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270051 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270060 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270086 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270088 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Today ? Well. just a couple of blokes, training, presumably, for A Polar Expidition Race. P1270078 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2016 Can we play "Spot the difference"? A row of houses seems to have disappeared, and a row of lorry trailers is there instead. Thats not just a set of Lorry trailers - its the A20 approach to Dover (which presumably is what did for the row of houses. the reason it looks like a trailer park is that to try and prevent Dover getting jammed up when there are delays on the Ferries, lorries are stacked on the inside lane all the way back to Folkestone with all other traffic using the outside lane. Traffic lights at the head of the queue release lorries when there is space at the port and the whole stretch is subject to a 40mph average speed enforcement* at all times - even when the port is flowing freely (Except that Kent Police are on record as saying they don't actually peruse non UK registered vehicles for fines which is a bit of a disgrace when at least half the traffic is non UK registered) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Today ? Well. just a couple of blokes, training, presumably, for A Polar Expidition Race. P1270078 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Could be Ground Penetrating Radar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I doubt very much,that I will be going up, today. To carry on with yesterday's visit, (Sat.30.Jan). in the next set of photos, they will shew the seawall, inboard, from east to west,to the tunnel mouths. P1270032 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270033 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270035 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270036 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270038 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270041 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270042 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270043 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270044 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270045 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270053 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Zoomed in across the harbours,to the east, sit's Landon Cliff's, (the bluebirds over Dover ones). Atop, is the Main Coastguard Station, high tech,for the whole of the English Channel,shipping movement's. The cut slope across the cliff,used to be a railway. The building to the left, is the National Trust site,with panoramic views, There are some stunning photos and cliff top walks in the National Trust,link below. Please, have a look. http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-white-cliffs-of-dover On the far left,just where the road (A2) viaduct,enter's the cliff, there is an old set of Coastgaurd house's, I lived in one of those,for 10.years. I walked down the cliff path, into the Eastern Docks,to work, when my ship arrived. P1270122 by ferriesdover, on Flickr The clock tower, in the Western Dock's P1270120 by ferriesdover, on Flickr Edited January 31, 2016 by David Todd 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I did, hear talk yesterday, of possible "one line working",by Easter. But, please, don't quote me on that. There is lots of ****** hot air, from people who, don't visit, watching, gives you,a better perspective. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 .These photos are Nigel's , Dovermarina.com and his copyright. I am allowed to share them, with you. Before my visit yesterday and before high tide,the beach work defence building carried on. Here are some of Nigel's photo. Please contact him,if want any. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Can we play "Spot the difference"? A row of houses seems to have disappeared, and a row of lorry trailers is there instead. Big difference in the height of the beach! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I like the way they built the footbridge around a reinforcing core of bullhead rail. I wonder how much the lack of shingle is because there is now so little exposed chalk cliff for them to come from. There are sea defences of one sort or another (either concrete aprons or sea walls) all the way from Folkestone Harbour to the Dover end of Samphire Hoe. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Dover Tides,this week. Image courtesy ofhttp://www.ukho.gov.uk/ProductsandServices/PaperPublications/Pages/NauticalPubs.aspx 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 David, have the tides risen over the years or is just the time of year that they seem so high - Would be Interesting to compare Tide heights in 1989 and today - I know Sea Levels have risen over the years, but not that much ?. Cheers, Bob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2016 Your picture on your other thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75589-1-dover-priory-kent-a-cliff-top-walk-one-day/page-208 appears to show the structure with the curved outer end. I can't tell what it is though. I've marked it: Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Your picture on your other thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75589-1-dover-priory-kent-a-cliff-top-walk-one-day/page-208 appears to show the structure with the curved outer end. I can't tell what it is though. I've marked it: post-13585-0-66633300-1454148570.jpg Pete If you expand the picture,until nearly pixel loss, you can make out a brick building.I believe to be a signal mans house/come box. I have seen a print/ photo of it years ago,hence making or trying to make an appointment At the Dover Musuem this coming week. But,have been told the custodian is away for a least,another next 3 weeks. I will trawl though my books and magazines photos and w/ sites. Edited January 31, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Here is a colour print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2016 I can't find anything at all indicating there was signalbox at that end of the tunnel; however it was not unusual to have signalboxes at each end of tunnels in early years and possibly that also happened there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have found several b/w photos of the eastern end (Dover)of Shakespeare Tunnel, With various styles of buildings. Here is one for now, It' fits in with this brick base I took sometime ago. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2016 Thanks, I wonder what it was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Thanks, I wonder what it was? There was a WW1 WW2? Search light down there covering the harbour approaches. Never seen a picture of it but it looks the right shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Perhaps the mp will come along and offer help to NR as he seems to be so proactive and knowledgeable ,or I am sure there are plenty of competent modelers ready and willing with mod roc and plasticard.Seriously hope this can be sorted quickly .as it looks like another Dawlish.Instead of mod-roc/plastic card, I am going to use, Cellotex, building insulation, 50.mm. My representation of the area, the tri-ang bridge is used for a reference point. The Dover Town Yard, I have had to move further west than it was. My head shunt,does not stop at the tunnel portal, it carries over to the otherside of the garage wall,to an 18.foot storage yard. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 The following article on the history of Cowgate Cemetery was compiled by Miss Elizabeth de Bourbel. Written in the 1980s, Miss Bourbel had started the massive task of recording as many of the gravestones as she could. Thanks to her efforts and those of her helpers, some 462 headstones were recorded, then matched with their official grave numbers. The Dover Society continued her work, and has now transcribed an additional 300 or more. Immortality was not to be the reward for many who were borne to this hillside site for burial. A grasseddover corner, some twenty yards square, was reserved for casualties of the sea washed ashore without identification, navvies killed by falls of chalk, paupers from the Dover Union, suicides and other unfortunates. The navvies had a role to play in local history. They worked on the construction of the London, Chatham and Dover Railway along the foot of the cliffs. A few have named graves; " ... one of 13 men blown up at the cave near Abbott's Cliff... ", reads a small headstone. http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=9645.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Compensation case: John HARVEY and wife Elizabeth, of Dover: compensation case for their interest in a lease of garden and premises known as the 'Mulberry Tree' public house at the foot of Shakespeare's Cliff, held under the Lord of the Manor of Sibertone for 21 years from Jan.1835 at 20 shillings per year. The site now included in a schedule of lands in the Act of Parliament now required by the Railway Co. for continuance of the line from the opening of the tunnels to the town of Dover. Offer by the Company of £850 but they demanded ?2340. Three and half columns report of the case. Witnesseses re. Harvey's business and market garden. Jury decided on £878.4s. (Dover Telegraph 14.July 1838 pp. 4 and 5) http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=5599.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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