Ron Ron Ron Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41399497 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/09/26/dyson-build-first-electric-car-uk-2020/ Well I'll be blowed ! Will Dyson clean up the market? ....Hoover up the competition? ...or will their cars suck? . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2017 I wonder if they'll clear up the leaves on the driveway, too....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Probably Suck, Dyson make the worst vacuum cleaners we have ever bought, now if Meile were to make an electric car then that would be different, I would buy one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrobuscp Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Only bought one Dyson cleaner, never again. Would be very wary of any Dyson product. Colin Edited September 26, 2017 by antrobuscp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2017 Back in the 80s another inventor made an electric car the C5 .....what happened to him...? Incidentally a previous owner of my house once built a triang model railway here with James dyson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Only bought one Dyson cleaner, never again. Would be very wary of any Dyson product. Colin The current models would be much better if he had not used cheap low quality plastic parts! Agree never again! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Interesting article, including the reference to the cyclone-type particle extractor for diesel exhausts. This wasn't a new idea, and actually works quite well within limits, but the reason such devices aren't widely used us that they interfere with the flow dynamics of the exhaust, don't contribute to non-particulate emission scrubbing and don't contribute to the flame-retardant aspects which are quite important for a lot of industrial vehicles. I'd hesitate to describe the C5 as an "electric car", indeed I don't ever recall seeing one in actual use, but it WAS quite an advanced piece of moulding technology for its time (some sources credit it with being the largest one-piece injection moulding yet produced) and I've seen references to it being primarily a promotion stunt by the moulding company. Sir Clive was undoubtedly very talented in that respect (remember his crude, but widely bought Spectrum computer?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 .... speaking of which, I can't imagine why anyone would want such a thing, but.... http://sinclair.recreatedzxspectrum.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Total Junk overpriced tat . Vacumn cleaners that try to clean but not how you want them too, the one I tried couldn't lift anything and weighed a ton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 I spend more time unblocking the thing than vacuuming and it's supposed to be a pet hair model!!. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nothing like a positive response to a positive story. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 Nothing like a positive response to a positive story. Agree. Only had 2 Dyson vacuums in some 20 odd years, best piece of kit going. But then again, James is British, so no chance of any support. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Nothing like a positive response to a positive story. What's 'positive' about it? Pure PR puff, like much of what comes out of the Dyson organisation. 800 man years and they've come up with...an electric motor? Whoop-de-flippin'-do. It'll probably be a "digital" motor, though, like in his vacuum cleaners. Not just a common-or-garden brushless motor like I've got in my cordless drill, but a digital one - so it must be 'better', right? http://www.eevblog.com/2010/12/13/eevblog-132-delusional-dyson-marketing Only had 2 Dyson vacuums in some 20 odd years, best piece of kit going. I'm glad you've been happy with your Dysons. My Henry is 12 years old and still going. And it's British. The vacuum it replaced (one of the European brands IIRC) was even older, and only got chucked out after we'd completely knackered it cleaning up the debris left by all the building, plastering, electrics, plumbing and carpentry work we had done when me moved in to our current house. At the time that one was coughing its last Dysons had a terrible reputation for quality and longevity. Which? called them out on it on a regular basis, as well as finding that you other vacuums they tested - even non-cyclone ones - performed just as well as Dysons. I have never seen a professional cleaner using a Dyson. It's usually Henry, Miele or Kärcher. Edited September 27, 2017 by ejstubbs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Agree. Only had 2 Dyson vacuums in some 20 odd years, best piece of kit going. But then again, James is British, so no chance of any support. Mike. We've had two or three over time (exactly WHICH vacuum cleaner we have at any given time, doesn't tend to be information I have at my fingertips) and the domestic authorities seem happy enough... which is all I care. I don't believe for a moment, that "800 man-years" have been devoted to the item, although there may well have been 200 personnel in the office for 4 years. Edited September 27, 2017 by rockershovel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 Agree. Only had 2 Dyson vacuums in some 20 odd years, best piece of kit going. But then again, James is British, so no chance of any support. Mike. Same as you we've had 2 Dyson since 1998/9 and they've worked much better than others I've used in peoples houses I've worked in, first one only stopped due to 'operator error' Further up the thread a poster mentioned 'Miele' sadly for me in years of kitchen fitting the only 2 items that didn't work and had to be returned were both Miele, the return service was good but paying £700+ for a washing machine it should be ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 I have never seen a professional cleaner using a Dyson. It's usually Henry, Miele or Kärcher. As Dyson vacs are domestic appliances not professional, I doubt you would. Mike. (Who has also used his for cleaning up after builders etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) What's 'positive' about it? Pure PR puff, like much of what comes out of the Dyson organisation. 800 man years and they've come up with...an electric motor? Whoop-de-flippin'-do. It'll probably be a "digital" motor, though, like in his vacuum cleaners. Not just a common-or-garden brushless motor like I've got in my cordless drill, but a digital one - so it must be 'better', right? http://www.eevblog.com/2010/12/13/eevblog-132-delusional-dyson-marketing I find that rather sad and it sums up so much of what is wrong with this country. A British businessman announces an ambitious plan to develop an electric car (you may be unaware that designing and building a car needs a little bit more than just an electric motor) and these plans will involve some R&D work in the UK, providing jobs. I’ve no idea where the car will be built (assuming that it reaches fruition) but at least some jobs and some of the benefits will be felt in this country. Rather than celebrate that as a good news story people would rather sneer and make derisive comments, kind of begging the question of if it is so easy why aren’t those doing the sneering having a go at building a commercial enterprise in the way Dyson have. I can’t help feeling that people would rather read another story about a factory closing, a company going bankrupt, mass unemployment etc. Over the last year or so a certain event has meant that the media and many people are like pigs rolling in muck as they gleefully tell us all how we’re all doomed, the sky is about to fall in etc. For some reason, as a nation we seem to revel in bad news and negativity about our own country. Edited September 27, 2017 by jjb1970 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Coming home from work one day in the mid 80's from Warrington, a cold dark November evening just after 5pm. The A49 Winwiick Road up to the M6 was (as usual) busy, but very slow this particular evening. Then I saw the reason - some twerp in a Sinclair C5, pedalling furiously, hardly any lights and a big artic behind him. Everyone slowing to look & laugh. - "Mincemeat by Winwick Island" I thought !!!!!!!!!!!! As to Dyson cleaners - we have one - its OK but wouldn't buy another as it was overpriced & a "British" product now made abroad. He can stick his electric cars also if they are to be made in China. I'm not overly impressed with electric cars. Neighbour has just bought a BMW one - nice but over 30 Grand !! - far, far too expensive (for me), Add to that range questionability, etc.etc. I will wait & see, though doubt I ever will buy one. My son has just bought a one year old Hyundai i30 diesel. Affordable insurance grouping, free road tax, 50mpg, 4 years left on warranty, tons of kit, change from 10 grand- Far more sensible. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The current models would be much better if he had not used cheap low quality plastic parts!.... Built in Malaysia. Plastic probably obtained from China.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2017 Built in Malaysia. Plastic probably obtained from China.... yet he keeps harping on about investing in the UK... hypocrite of the highest order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 yet he keeps harping on about investing in the UK... hypocrite of the highest order! The R&D department is here in the UK, certainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 27, 2017 The R&D department is here in the UK, certainly. Yes but it's the manufacturing that we desperately need to take place in this country. I find it hypocritical of Dyson to harp on about investing in the UK when all he's really after is profit maximisation for himself... comrade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 Yes but it's the manufacturing that we desperately need to take place in this country. I find it hypocritical of Dyson to harp on about investing in the UK when all he's really after is profit maximisation for himself... comrade You're right, what we need are low grade jobs rather than the lucrative bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 low grade jobs Who would do these jobs? Certainly no native British person seems keen? If the woes of the Lincolnshire produce farmers are anything to go by? Low grade jobs equate to 'beneath our dignity', so it would appear? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2017 The current models would be much better if he had not used cheap low quality plastic parts! Agree never again! Mark Saunders Our dog ate most of the cheap plastic parts on the first Dyson we had. He does not like vacuum cleaners of any brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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