RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2014 Speculation on that 3rd Gauge 0 loco..... Is an ROD/GCR 8k 2-8-0 too big? It would fill a mainline gap for many. More useful for the small layout would be a Beyer Peacock 2-4-0t which ran on the Isle of Wight and on Sydney NSWGR suburban lines, as 1033 preserved at Trainworks. One for HartleyMartin! The HC saddle tank looks good in its new livery. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Based on Chris's clues, my money is on a collaboration with Dapol. Their long-promised Terrier will be the locomotive. According to Wiki, eight locomotives were built by local Australian builders for the NSWGR in Australia – to the LB&SCR's general arrangement and drawings – and entered traffic as the N67 class at about the same time as the A1X class in England. They were essentially identical engines, except for a simpler cab, larger bunker, larger sandboxes and other various detail differences. Anyone got a better guess? Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted August 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2014 . . don't forget that the first Ixion loco was the N Gauge Manor (rights now with Dapol) and the second one was On30 1:48 Narrow Gauge South Australia Coffee-Pot and only then did we get the three O Standard Gauge Industrial Locos . . . . that's covered the interests of the three directors and so it could be a case of 'anything goes' next time. I had a hint last year that one of the projects being considered would be aimed at the Australian market and wasn't 7mm. Based on Dave's comment above, although I appreciate that there was a connection with Dapol for the N gauge Manor, I wouldn't expect Ixion to be involved in another joint venture with them, particularly in view of Richard Webster's position there and links with his company Lionheart Trains. Perhaps after all the comments from Adrian Swain in the various topics, the joint venture will be with ABS . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexible_coupling Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Based on Chris's clues, my money is on a collaboration with Dapol. Their long-promised Terrier will be the locomotive. According to Wiki, eight locomotives were built by local Australian builders for the NSWGR in Australia – to the LB&SCR's general arrangement and drawings – and entered traffic as the N67 class at about the same time as the A1X class in England. They were essentially identical engines, except for a simpler cab, larger bunker, larger sandboxes and other various detail differences. Anyone got a better guess? Cheers Dave Except that Dapol has probably ponied up most of the $ required already and is approaching delivery in the coming months? The assumption that another UK company is another model railway manufacturer might be misleading - who knows, perhaps a preservation society or a retail store is helping the wheels to turn? I feel like the ROD 2-8-0 is a fair bet in limited-run brass.... I know there has been success in that sphere with Australian retailers (to Australian modellers) before. And I reckon I'll have one of those new darker-green Hudswell's, the scheme is very similar to that used on a number of the locos on my chosen Mountain Ash prototype and suits that little loco very well. And it's of the size and style that would make it believable fiction in such a location! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 could be this Aussie 2-tone or maybe this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Except that Dapol has probably ponied up most of the $ required already and is approaching delivery in the coming months? The assumption that another UK company is another model railway manufacturer might be misleading - who knows, perhaps a preservation society or a retail store is helping the wheels to turn? Has anyone seen a hint of any pre-production Dapol 7mm loco yet? At least Ixion have a tried, tested and manufactured 0-6-0 chassis that, with appropriate adjustments could perhaps form the basis of another 0-6-0 without incurring new chassis development costs. I'm sticking to my guns for now but won't lose sleep if time proves me wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I would guess maybe the 0-6-0 Side Tank locomotives of the Public Works Department. I think that they were hunslets. Another generic industrial design. I'm rather looking forward to acquiring a side tank type as I have three saddle tanks on my roster at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexible_coupling Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Has anyone seen a hint of any pre-production Dapol 7mm loco yet? At least Ixion have a tried, tested and manufactured 0-6-0 chassis that, with appropriate adjustments could perhaps form the basis of another 0-6-0 without incurring new chassis development costs. I'm sticking to my guns for now but won't lose sleep if time proves me wrong! Yes, nearly everyone has seen (more than) a hint of any pre-production Dapol 7mm loco; http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87122-first-pre-production-sample-of-the-Dapol-o-gauge-terrier/ You're welcome to stick to your guns, but I'd double-check that they've got bullets before swinging them around...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Updates on the Ixion page of RMWeb answer some of the questions here. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89573-ixion-new-projects/&do=findComment&comment=1566177 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Chris, Surely this lovely little loco needs some consideration, please...... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/51212-little-didcot/page-28 Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Chris, Surely this lovely little loco needs some consideration, please...... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/51212-little-didcot/page-28 Martyn. Together with the ubiquitous bucket, and an effigy of Arthur Hitchcock's moke....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2014 Together with the ubiquitous bucket, Of course the bucket is already available with the Hudswell Clarke or the separate pack of loco tools . . . . . . . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Of course the bucket is already available with the Hudswell Clarke or the separate pack of loco tools . . . . . . . . . . I can live without the bucket and tools, just give me a No 5 please. Come on Chris you are being very quiet of late on this subject . Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 In case anyone was wondering - this is where Arthur Hitchcock fits in: Has IXION written all over it, doesn't it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Heck, I'd buy one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillH Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Here is a link to photos of the remaining industrial steam locos in NSW (standard gauge) most of them are suitable/built in the UK also. http://www.australiansteam.com/nswindframe.htm I quite like the 0-6-0 Avonside at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 http://www.australiansteam.com/nswind/southbulli2.jpg How about this little 0-6-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Isambarduk Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 "Surely this lovely little loco needs some consideration [Wantage Tramway No. 5 'Jane']"Well, that's a very fair contender and I'll tell you how I know ...... I was part way through building HC Easingwold No.2 from an Impetus kit when Ixion came out with their excellent RTR Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST, which rather took the steam out of the project as I was diverted into converting one into GCR No. 278 (I'll get back to No. 2 one day) Then Ixion brought out their Fowler 0-4-0DM, based on GWR No.1, which rather took away the 'celebrity' value of my Fowler 0-4-0DM LMS No.2, which I practically scratch-built using some of the parts from the Underhill kit (see www.davidlosmith.co.uk/LMS_Fowler.htm) Like many, I started the MRJ scratch-building project to build WT No.5 'Jane' but, like many, I could not keep up and so the project has been 'work-in-progress' ever since (I'll get back to No. 5 one day) So yes, if Ixion wish to go for a hat-trick, WT No.5 would do it! I have other contenders some built and some unbuilt but I'm keeping quiet about the latter as I don't want to improve their odds :-) David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 If only the wheelbases were the same, that would keep the re-tooling costs right down. Just a thought ( hint-hint ). Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 If only the wheelbases were the same, that would keep the re-tooling costs right down. Just a thought ( hint-hint ). Martyn. Martyn, We got quite excited when we discovered the LNER J64. The two J64s were inside cylinder 0-6-0Ts manufactured by Hudswell Clarke for the Mid-Suffolk Light Railway with the same wheelbase as the Ixion 0-6-0ST. They survived until 1929 and received LNER livery. Unfortunately, the layout of the motor and gears in the Ixion model didn't suit this loco despite the common wheelbase and wheel diameter. It was not a simple superstructure "top and drop" as the chassis needed re-tooling negating any hoped for economies of scale. http://www.lner.info/locos/J/j64.shtml We think there are two further versions of the Fowler diesel that would fit the Ixion 0-4-0 chassis. I may have a go at mocking up the centre-cab version used by the RAF should I ever find the time and a drawing, but this could be a good project for a 3D printed kit. https://www.flickr.com/photos/johngreyturner/3849464057/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Hi Chris, This just goes to show that there is so much more than just identical wheelbases and wheel diameters to take into account, and how critical things are when it comes to costings, I have a lot to learn ! Mind you that Fowler AMW212 has a chunky appeal to it . Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_Burman Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hello all, I have yet to enter 7mm scale modelling but after handling an Ixion HC 0-6-0ST loco in an show in the UK I feel severely tempted... My choice would be for a Sentinel steam loco. Preferably the version with the fluted bonnet. Speaking of Sentinels (sorry to hijack the thread) and given that I'm writing from S. America, a sad bit of news - the two broad-gauge (5'3" gauge) which shunted the Amsted-Maxion wagon works in Cruzeiro, São Paulo State, are going to be retired - if they haven't been already. Thus ends regular working steam in South America... Cheers Nicholas São Paulo, Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hello all, I have yet to enter 7mm scale modelling but after handling an Ixion HC 0-6-0ST loco in an show in the UK I feel severely tempted... My choice would be for a Sentinel steam loco. Preferably the version with the fluted bonnet. Speaking of Sentinels (sorry to hijack the thread) and given that I'm writing from S. America, a sad bit of news - the two broad-gauge (5'3" gauge) which shunted the Amsted-Maxion wagon works in Cruzeiro, São Paulo State, are going to be retired - if they haven't been already. Thus ends regular working steam in South America... Cheers Nicholas São Paulo, Brazil. Well you know what Oscar Wilde said about temptation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well you know what Oscar Wilde said about temptation... I do now I've looked it up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Have you found a theme in this thread yet? I mean has one particular engine stood out with as the most requested? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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