RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2017 Very clear Chris. One slight correction Brunel wasn't idling, ten years before the line to Wenford he was helping his Dad to tunnel under the Thames something that had defeated the Cornish (they could cope with hard rock but not soft mud). Don 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 I dont think you had better bring it any more up to date. It will make a real mess ripping all the track up and spoiling the cottages with in appropriate later additions Don Yes, I decided to stop the map sketches at 1899. Interesting that it took 65 years to complete the railway network in the area and a similar period later it was mostly all gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 Very clear Chris. One slight correction Brunel wasn't idling, ten years before the line to Wenford he was helping his Dad to tunnel under the Thames something that had defeated the Cornish (they could cope with hard rock but not soft mud). Don I suspect the Brunels didn't do much digging themselves. Possibly a lot of pointing, directing and scratching heads. I also suspect the Cornish miners were off colour and not on top form due to a lack of correct fodder (pasties) and drink (mead). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2017 Very clear Chris. One slight correction Brunel wasn't idling, ten years before the line to Wenford he was helping his Dad to tunnel under the Thames something that had defeated the Cornish (they could cope with hard rock but not soft mud). Don Ah, yes, he had his head stuck in the sand and came out with ideas about a very long vacuum cleaner, oh, and his tape measure had stretched 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) There's an oil drum in the first one. And a box and pallet - behind a lorry. In the second one the lorry has gone taking the oil drum, pallett and box with it. Together, it appears, with the hut that was beside the line behind the big wonky building in the first picture. Shouldn't I have better things to do...?! Keith edit- the big building on the left has been demolished too. That lorry must have been busy.... Edited May 23, 2017 by keefr2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 So how do the Spam Cans get to Pencarrow ? By reversing at Wadebridge ? If the LSWR made a left junction between Lan'stan & Wadebridge they could join up with the line between Wadebridge and Boscarne. Indeed; and if they then turned right for Ruthern Bridge (Rob, I think your sketches show Grogley Junction facing the wrong way) they could follow the extended branch through Withiel, St Wenn and St Columb Major to Halloon - which is how the last portion of the Atlantic Coast Express ended up going to Pentowan instead of Padstow. Don't even ask how most of your own creations, as well as Penhayle Bay/Treheligan Junction, Fal Vale and St Breward to name just a few, fit in to all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2017 Indeed; and if they then turned right for Ruthern Bridge (Rob, I think your sketches show Grogley Junction facing the wrong way) they could follow the extended branch through Withiel, St Wenn and St Columb Major to Halloon - which is how the last portion of the Atlantic Coast Express ended up going to Pentowan instead of Padstow. Don't even ask how most of your own creations, as well as Penhayle Bay/Treheligan Junction, Fal Vale and St Breward to name just a few, fit in to all of this. Good to see Treamble centre stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2017 It is nice to see how much Brunel is appreciated. Don 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 It is nice to see how much Brunel is appreciated. Don As a civil engineer myself I fully appreciate his taste in hats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 Indeed; and if they then turned right for Ruthern Bridge (Rob, I think your sketches show Grogley Junction facing the wrong way) they could follow the extended branch through Withiel, St Wenn and St Columb Major to Halloon - which is how the last portion of the Atlantic Coast Express ended up going to Pentowan instead of Padstow. Don't even ask how most of your own creations, as well as Penhayle Bay/Treheligan Junction, Fal Vale and St Breward to name just a few, fit in to all of this. If that map had all the fictional modelled lines and stations added to it then there would be no space left for caravans, second homes and celebrity chef over-priced restaurants. Yes, Ruthernbridge link not quite right although access arrangements off the mainline changed when the Grogley diversion was put in. A good book for all the "what if" and might have been lines in the area is this one: Highly recommended read. Thanks again to Paul for sending me his unwanted copy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2017 If that map had all the fictional modelled lines and stations added to it then there would be no space left for caravans, second homes and celebrity chef over-priced restaurants. Yes, Ruthernbridge link not quite right although access arrangements off the mainline changed when the Grogley diversion was put in. A good book for all the "what if" and might have been lines in the area is this one: tmp_14654-rps20170523_13315979252859.jpg Highly recommended read. Thanks again to Paul for sending me his unwanted copy. No, thanks to my uncle who just happened to be working in the print works where they had just printed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 After the last period of stupidity I'm afraid that it's back to modelling. The second layer of 15thou strips has been added to the office roof, at 90deg to the other run. Using 2 layers of thin strips enables changes in roof profile, dips and ridges to be easily followed. And as an added bonus, the brickwork chimney has been formed using SEF brick sheet. The solvent is still setting and the thin plastic soft, so finishing off the joints properly will have to wait. Had fun with the brick spacing and incorporating non-standard brick lengths. Talking of solvent, what have Slater's done to MekPak? Smells bad, evaporates super fast and doesn't flow very well. Less easy to use. That's my summary of a new bottle bought last week. A new disappointing move is to put only 50ml in the bottle. I'm sure previously the bottles were fuller. Think I'll have to look elsewhere for my fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hi Chris, Coming on well and looking the part so far. Now then, as for your solvent problem ( glue not money ! ) I gave up on the MekPak quite some time ago due to the stuff giving me a bad head after use ( even in a well ventilated room). I've taken to using this stuff for all my plasticard work and very happy with it too. It's been used on several recent projects including laminating work and to date there haven't been any problems. The other nice bonus is the fine brush which is included in the top. Hope this is of some use. ATB Grahame 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 23, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2017 Thanks Grahame, Never really got on with the Tamiya square bottle solvents, I generally have the roof window above the workbench open when there's a serious solvent abuse session underway. The photo below shows the three most recent bottles I've bought. The left two are empty and were great the new one on the right is not great. The only difference I can see is the new bottle has 50ml marked on the label. New stuff behaves very differently on the brush and on the model. Think I'll go back to this stuff... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted May 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2017 Thanks Grahame, Never really got on with the Tamiya square bottle solvents, I generally have the roof window above the workbench open when there's a serious solvent abuse session underway. The photo below shows the three most recent bottles I've bought. The left two are empty and were great the new one on the right is not great. The only difference I can see is the new bottle has 50ml marked on the label. New stuff behaves very differently on the brush and on the model. tmp_5819-rps20170523_2254471178813985.jpg Think I'll go back to this stuff... tmp_5819-rps20170523_2255201252676267.jpg I think you will see a difference. I don't believe that MEK PAK has been MEK for a long time. I have a large (150ml Brown square bottle of MEK PAK in the garage that I was recently given by someone who hasn't used it for over 20 years.. It is MEK. I haven't used MEK PAK for some time and since you demonstrated to me how slow the solvent I was using was I changed to EMA models Plastic Weld. this product is Methylene Chloride, just about the fastest (most volatile) solvent you can buy. It's non flammable. I don't think it would suit your laminating work, it evaporates too fast. But that chimney would have set. note: the harmful cross on the MEK PAK but harmful and flammable on the MEK. the solvent MEK is flammable. Those symbols go out of date at the end of the month. a red diamond symbol replaced them in June 2015 and the two year period to switch ends on the 31st May 2017. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I think Squires now do their own version of MEK PAK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I haven't bought this, but from the MSDS it appears to be pure MEK http://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-sc250-solvent-cement-250ml/14295?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=GoogleLocal-_-Datafeed-_-Heating%2520and%2520Plumbing&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=CN_L8Jq-iNQCFW0W0wodo8MO9A&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIbdhZu-iNQCFZKeGwodzKcByw#product_additional_details_container 250ml for £5.64. It's much cheaper on ebay of course. if you buy in serious bulk, it's ~ £2/litre. best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted May 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2017 I haven't bought this, but from the MSDS it appears to be pure MEK http://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-sc250-solvent-cement-250ml/14295?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=GoogleLocal-_-Datafeed-_-Heating%2520and%2520Plumbing&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=CN_L8Jq-iNQCFW0W0wodo8MO9A&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIbdhZu-iNQCFZKeGwodzKcByw#product_additional_details_container 250ml for £5.64. It's much cheaper on ebay of course. if you buy in serious bulk, it's ~ £2/litre. best Simon Hi I have this product and it is not pure MEK. It has something dissolved in it to make it a thick paste. You use it on pipe weld plastic drainage pipes. You paste it liberally all around the pipe then insert pipe into the coupling(elbow. T, or straight) and give it a quarters twist. The MSDS sheet simply means that the only classified hazardous material is MEK. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2017 I haven't bought this, but from the MSDS it appears to be pure MEK http://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-sc250-solvent-cement-250ml/14295?kpid=KINASEKPID&cm_mmc=GoogleLocal-_-Datafeed-_-Heating%2520and%2520Plumbing&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=CN_L8Jq-iNQCFW0W0wodo8MO9A&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=CIbdhZu-iNQCFZKeGwodzKcByw#product_additional_details_container 250ml for £5.64. It's much cheaper on ebay of course. if you buy in serious bulk, it's ~ £2/litre. best Simon Hi I have this product and it is not pure MEK. It has something dissolved in it to make it a thick paste. You use it on pipe weld plastic drainage pipes. You paste it liberally all around the pipe then insert pipe into the coupling(elbow. T, or straight) and give it a quarters twist. The MSDS sheet simply means that the only classified hazardous material is MEK. Andy ABS Pipe cleaner is MEK although I got some it doesn't seem to be all that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted May 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2017 ABS Pipe cleaner is MEK although I got some it doesn't seem to be all that good. Not good for modelling or for cleaning ABS?? When I worked for Bostik we made most pipe companies pipe weld and the solvent was always Tetrahydrofuran (now called oxolane). Very strong smell Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2017 Not good for modelling or for cleaning ABS?? Andy Not tried it on ABS, just didn't seem to stick plasticard too well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Hi I have this product and it is not pure MEK. It has something dissolved in it to make it a thick paste. You use it on pipe weld plastic drainage pipes. You paste it liberally all around the pipe then insert pipe into the coupling(elbow. T, or straight) and give it a quarters twist. The MSDS sheet simply means that the only classified hazardous material is MEK. Andy Thanks Andy I was suspicious... Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 24, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2017 Bought some Tamiya superthin glue today in Birmingham, will give it a go again at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 My last two plasticard builds I used thinners. But I now have a litre of mek. So not sure what to use next time. The whole layout now seems to be getting a sense of setting. The choice of buildings seem to be just right. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 25, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2017 Good news on the Minerva 8750: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115316-minerva-gwr-pannier-tank-open-for-advanced-orders/page-7&do=findComment&comment=2733038 Got one on prefer for Pencarrow which will become 4666, a regular in the Bodmin area. On the plus side, this means that the 1366 is the first and last GWR loco that I have to build! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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