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* The Académie Française might object to the spelling of "au fait", as would Dylan Thomas to the extra "R" in the town name. CP

* May I advise some caution. There are some inexpensive 3D print loco bodies that in order to fit on top of a KATO 11-109 result in a somewhat overscale loco for "OO9". This is in terms of both length and height. One that does not suffer from this problem is GVT "GLYN" loco from Nigel Brooks. CP

* As a modeller working in "O9" I have twice made use of a Fleischmann No 7000 chassis. I have also built in "OO9" a "Pugbash" loco using a MiniTrix Dock Tank chassis. From this perspective, and clearly understanding that this is a freelance locomotive, I politely ask a simple question. How in reality would the saddle tank have been filled with water? CP

* At 2.45 in the YouTube presentation it is stated that the KATO motor is 3 volts. The packaging of a Kato 11-109 says - "Maximum DC12v" CP

* Sadly the REC exhibition is no more. See below. CP

* May I suggest that Iain Rice's own words as to the demise of the series of articles and the project are relevant? "….. intended to use BR-era R-T-R stock on a 'finescale OO' layout project undertaken for the old Model Railways magazine. Unfortunately, in the midst of this exercise, that magazine went through one of its periodic upheavals and became, almost overnight, an animal of a very different kind, whose readers were not deemed to be interested in anything so esoteric as 'Bringewood'. And so the first 'Bringewood' faltered, and languishes still in the mouldy dankness of the 'stable'." (Iain Rice: Light Railway Layout Designs, Wild Swan Publications Limited, 1991, ISBN 0 906867 94 0, p.43.) CP

* I appreciate that the discussion here (and especially the above comment) is about 7mm scale models. That said, was it not the case that the prototype L&B 4 wheel wagons were distinctly on the small side? Assuming the RTR models by Peco for "OO9" are (gauge aside) basically to scale, placing an L&B van alongside a GVT carriage shows the dramatic difference. The L&B van is noticeably narrower and of less height. CP

* Only two. [1] "Scotland in the Round" - pp.60-61. This is a 4ft x 2ft plan for "N" Peco Setrack despite being mistakenly identified in the heading at "1:76 scale". [2] "The Perfect Trains Set?" - pp.76-77. No overall dimensions are given for this plan that uses Peco "OO" Setrack. It is described as being inspired by the "electric industrial system serving the Harton and Westoe Collieries in the North East on the banks of the River Tyne". CP

* Thank you for this photograph and the information as to the baseboard dimensions. It thus being established that the radius of the curve is approximately 10.5ins, in order to avoid continuing confusion may I politely suggest the title of this thread be corrected to - 21” diameter Micro 00 CP

* Please forgive the question. What is the radius of the curves and the depth of the baseboard? I find myself confused by the heading reference to "21inch radius" and what I see in the photograph. CP

* List of layouts and traders now found. Thank you to all concerned. CP

* Can you please provide a link to a list of layouts and traders? The statement on the Association web-site that this information has to be obtained by sending an e-mail to the Exhibition Manager seems at best curious and at worst very defensive. CP

* May I make a simple point about the difference between one large layout and a number of smaller layouts that might occupy the same space at an exhibition? And before doing so I declare an interest in that - (i) I generally have a preference for smaller layouts, and (ii) I have for many years been building and exhibiting small layouts of my own. The discussion thus far seems to have addressed the cost differences between a single large and several smaller layouts. Is there not also the INTEREST difference? To put it simply consider the following imaginary situation. Option 1: a large main line layout in "OO" where express trains can thunder through the scene and at other times lengthy goods workings can potter. Option 2: four separate small layouts. (a) An Edwardian branch line terminus modelled in "P4". (b) A Germanic mountainous scene modelled in "HO". (c) An "O" gauge "micro layout" depicting a dockside. (d) A "OO9" layout depicting a small through station with branch line to a quarry. If I love main line standard gauge railways the large layout will perhaps find me in my "seventh heaven". But if I have not this enthusiasm I will be bored and disappointed. However, if instead there are four smaller layouts is there not the possibility that at least one of them will have an appeal, and that I might also appreciate (say) the quality of the modelling of another even if the subject matter is not to my taste. ***** I am not suggesting that large layouts should not be included in exhibitions - au contraire a mixture of large and small would seem to be a good idea. But I am suggesting that the relative value of large versus small layouts needs to considered in more than financial terms. CP

* Steve I am happy to be of possible assistance. On reflection may I make a suggestion? If basing the loco on the 3ft gauge CVR trams, the proportions might need to be somewhat reduced for the implied 2ft gauge of "SM32". In 4mm scale FourDees have done this to make a model suitable for 2ft 3ins gauge. See - https://www.fourdees.co.uk/clogher - where there is a drawing indicating the proportional reduction used to make it suitable for "OO9". CP

* Not an exhaustive list, but this may be helpful. E&OE. [1] The CVR Sharp Stewart tram locos. (i) E.M.Patterson: The Clogher Valley Railway, Colourprint, 2004, ISBN 1-904242-15- 4, pp.133-140. These pages describe the locos, include a number of photographs, and that on p.133 is a square on shot of No 5 "Colebrooke" that might be the next best thing to a drawing. There are other photographs of the locomotives elsewhere in the book. (ii) Geoff Thorne: Scrapbook of Narrow Gauge Drawings - Narrow Lines extra No 3, the 7mm Narrow gauge Association, 1995, drawing No 1 (obviously to 7mm scale). (iii) D.B.Pinniger: "Narrow gauge Modelling in Plasticard", Model Railway Constructor, October 1966, p. 259 has a 4mm scale outline drawing. [2] The GVT Beyer Peacock tram locos. (i) W.J.Milner: The Glyn Valley Tramway, OPC, 1984, ISBN 0-86093-286-9, pp.75-81. Therein is a description of the locos, several photographs, and on p.78 a drawing of "Sir Theodore". The scale of this drawing appears to be very slightly less than 10mm/ft. The locomotives of course feature in photographs elsewhere in the book. (ii) John Milner and Beryl Williams: Rails to Glyn Ceiriog, vol 2, Ceiriog Press, 2015, ISBN 10: 1900622157/ ISBN 13: 9781900622158 will also presumably have a drawing. This volume is, however, out of print and changes hands for large sums. (iii) Model Railway News, June 1967 has drawings of "Dennis" and "Sir Theodore". From memory these are 10mm/ft drawings. (iv) Bernard Rockett: Glyn Valley Tramway Locomotives, 16mm scale drawings. No ISBN. CP