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No longer for sale, so guess someone bought it!

I presume he means versus a payment plan, rather than 'post release'? At risk of putting words in your mouth Dave, I'd suggest no difference. Also... without wanting to start another well-trodden debate: Really grates on something that was withdrawn more than 30 years ago!

It is in Canada, and priced in Canadian Dollars, so I suspect £350 is with a bad exchange rate, and no idea what the market’s like over there. Seems exorbitant though, I agree!

I think you’re hugely overthinking it. You’re right, if you’re spraying 8 hours a day for weeks on end then it may be a problem, but 30 mins with an airbrush or rattle can without a spray booth isn’t going to kill you.

Having had a play at Warley last week I've bitten the bullet and ordered one of the starter sets. If anyone wants a sound-fitted BR245 diesel, some nice double deck coaches or some track for a good price just shout! How are you getting on with yours Ron?

That’d be a bold move though - retailers buying (at retail) intermediate coaches on the speculation that people who’ve bought a marginally profitable product may want to extend it at some indeterminate point in the future. Tough sell IMO. I think Dave’s right to do sets from the outset.

Then just scratchbuild some HUOs in whatever form you want. If you’re a modeller...

Can we kill the original topic? We’re already getting questions asked in both, only one will be updated I’m sure, it’s less effort to keep abreast of progress and less work for you to update Dave!

Wow, even worse than mine, thanks for making me feel better about myself

Good shout by Pete but I’d keep one thread for now - the parallel 92 threads are frustrating with info basically only posted in the OO gauge one.

It looks like quite a fine moulding, and on the presumption that you a) are happy with the price of the model and b) can still do something with the pan on DC rather than be forced into keeping it down, then does it matter?

You were sat down each time I passed ;-) The 92 body looked very good, I continue to watch that with interest. Pleased the APT is showing popularity, shame I really can’t justify one!

It’s very obviously not true! Just read the quotes. The whole site is obviously satirical, like SNN as observed above.

And if it’s realyl for Chinese New Year they’ll never be here at the end of March, a couple of months after that I’ll wager. I thought they looked good, but still think the lower body side of the Swallow one is too ‘cold’, too much white, not enough brown.

£800 for a 10 car and £900 for 14. Far too expensive for a rule one purchase, I’m out I’m afraid! I fear you’ll find it a tough sell at those prices.

About 30 years too early, but may be tempted by an n Gauge one depending on details.

Is that not just because you don’t model American though... bit short sighted. I thought it was pretty good, not the best, better than last year. Some pretty good layouts, nothing incredible. I saw a bit more intervention from the giant hand in the sky than one might expect, but I’m not that fussed, can’t imagine the exhibitors wanted that to happen, just one of those things. Traders were alright, didn’t buy anything, but the only thing I was really looking for was to try a particular DCC system, which no one had, which is fine.

And, as if by magic, I have exactly 15 RMC JGAs, and 66152. What rot.

I've said nothing to the contrary, but I still think it's naive to think a machine can't out perform a human in all of those tasks, whilst making fewer mistakes. People are generally the weak link. Of course it'll need sophisticated AI, I'm not saying we could just shoehorn an old Pentium 2 into the cab of an Electrostar and crack on. It's decades away, but I'd be surprised if it didn't happen. You can come up with as many obscure examples about dog owners on one leg chasing people off parapets, but again, cars have to deal with all of that, and far more, and they're doing a pretty good job of it so far. Not perfect, but I'm not sure trains will face many things that we won't have overcome whilst learning about cars. Still, that's a totally different discussion, I get it's emotive, but it'll happen.

Whilst I don't disagree with the sentiment, that's a bit like saying if the farmers stop producing milk the supermarkets will have stock for a while, if the supermarket shuts you can't get some instantly, ergo the supermarket is more important than the supplier?

Fair enough, South Western haven't got as adept at Southern at dealing with it, no difference in service Wednesday or yesterday for us! I'm not sure it says much when you can strike with zero impact.

Whilst current trains can't, of course there's a power to recognise something like a crane swinging things into the path of other trains. Indeed I'd go as far as saying that a network of self-driving trains would be far better at identifying a threat and responding to it - integration with a central network would mean that all trains would automatically be notified of the threat and diverted/stopped/slowed as appropriate, they could be run far closer together because you don't need to know about response times, or wait until the next signal block to update on the location of a train in front. Same with livestock, in the instant a train senses a cow next to the line then all other trains in the area can be notified of it, and can respond appropriately. Again, if we can deliver autonomous cars then we can do trains, whether there's an appetite is something else. There are far more obstacles to content with on the road compared to the railway, where (theoretically speaking) it's a hermetically sealed system. Yes, you get trespassers etc, but that's wholly different to having to interact with pedestrians, cyclists, other drivers etc. Clearly we're not there at the moment, but IMO it's naive to assume it can't/won't happen, and benefit payments for the unemployed drivers will be less than their salaries, that certainly won't be a barrier! But we digress...

So you're saying they're not getting a pay rise? There may be a slant (ie it's not an unconditional payrise, and that gets overlooked), but I'd suggest "not believing them" is akin to "bury your head in the sand". I'm a big defender of drivers, particularly among friends who always just do the "pfft, all they do is push a lever, they don't even have to steer" thing. But... you have to admit £62k, with 'standard' overtime (leaving them on a 44 hour, 5 day week) at £79k is a pretty handsome reward. Yes, they could end up in front of the CPS, I get all that, but there are a hell of a lot of jobs that pay less with similar threats, or worse, frankly.

The RMT? Well given, as Claude says, the minuscule impact their strikes now have they’ve rather lost their ‘bargaining’ ability (by which I mean their ability to hold the public to ransom), so now they’re just a bit like that annoying drunk guy in the corner of the pub shouting at no one in particular whilst everyone else just nods casually now and again.

Here here, driverless all the way, seems a far better implementation of the technology than cars frankly if you’re going to throw billions at it. Then all the drivers can stop worrying about ending up in front of the CPS. Sorted.