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By all accounts, the streamlining did nothing for the performance of the B17.

Anthony, It is always a pleasure to see you have posted. I was all ready to congratulate you at your upcoming free time to devote to your railway, and then I read your comment about a temporary position. It is great news that it is nearer to home and you will still be able to work on NWCR. As always, I shall look forward to further updates and hearing how you get on with the mountain.

Thank you. I will need to keep an eye on it. Even though I model N Gauge, I think I might get one for the display case. I only collected numbers for about a year, back when Pontius was a pilot, and I were a lad, but Lady Di was the very first entry in the book. That being the case, it would be rude not to.

Do you know when this is available?

Kriegsmarine P-3, Lossiemouth October 2015 RAF Typhoon, Lossiemouth October 2015 RAF Typhoons, Lossiemouth October 2014 Svenska Flygvapnet JAS39, Lossiemouth October 2014 Armee de l'Air Alpha Jet, Fairford July 2010

How about super glue to fill any gaps?

Holy smoke! Great image, thanks for posting!

That looks very nice indeed. I picked up the 2mmFS starter kit, a 16T Mineral wagon I think, from the stand at Model Rail Scotland this weekend, although I model N gauge. It will be my first etched chassis build, so should be interesting. Good work!

James, With regards getting trains from the top level to the bottom level (and vice versa), rather than a helix or an incline, have you considered possibly compressing your station by a few inches, and instead of dropping the through line under it, have it swing through 90 degrees at the extreme right of your plan whence it would connect with a cassette. You would then be able to move the cassette onto the lower level and drive the train off. A loco and three coaches would require a cassette of around 48" though so it might be unwieldy. It might also require some reworking of the layout of the lower level, but it remove the complexity and expense (and "wasted space") of a helix. Just a thought, though.

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, and I accept it isn't a "locomotive", but Liberia got five leading power cars of the 79xxx Swindon InterCity DMUsfor workers trains: http://www.railcar.co.uk/type/swindon-79xxx/non-passenger-use EDITED to include photograph

These date from 2012, at Broomhill, but may be of interest for the thread: R052 828 Caledonian Railway Broomhill by ScottyStitch, on Flickr R053 828 Caledonian Railway Broomhill by ScottyStitch, on Flickr R054 828 Caledonian Railway Broomhill by ScottyStitch, on Flickr

Is there room for wings of the rotary kind? S-92A N4515G (G-IACD) by ScottyStitch, on Flickr S-92A G-IACD by ScottyStitch, on Flickr S61N G-BCLD by ScottyStitch, on Flickr

That was what I originally meant by botched.......

If it's any help, selecting the 25inch mapping gives you a wee bit more detail, although the drawing is not always to be relied upon. Should give you a flavour, though:

66570 facing south at Drumlithie, during an engineers' possession, 28th January 2018

VTEC HST leans into the curve at Drumlithie, heading south for (eventually) King's Cross. 9th February 2018

But, in the context of a 2mm layout it may well do look like a train....?

I like this a lot, particularly the last two photos. I like the variation in shades of the coaching stock too.

So, would it e possible to hypothesis that by the time the pilot trials had been completed, we might have realised that the type 1 and 2 were redundant, perhaps? My understanding was that the type1s were for pick-up and trip freight workings. With the demise of wagonload traffic, they weren't needed in the end. What about the Type 2s?

I think your observation is a valid one, Kylestrome. Just because the 47 (nor the 37, 55, etc.) wasn't a "pilot" locomotive, that's not to say that we might have ended up with it anyway, had the scheme been completed?

I'm afraid I find this post quite rude. Some of us are on this forum to try and better understand certain things. I don't know everything and I don't have all the answers, but the purpose of my post was to try and understand something for my own benefit. The parameters of the discussion were set for a particular reason, to suit me. If you don't like those parameters, then, and I mean this in the nicest most hospitable way, it's possibly best if you don't contribute to the discussion, rather than telling me I can't summarily dismiss something. I can, for the purposes of my thought process, assume electrification wasn't an option, and I have. I find interaction in this world difficult enough as it is, and increasingly so, without being told what I can and can't do when trying to set up a discussion. Thank you.

Interesting. Why the Sulzer Type 2 (24/25?) Devil's advocate time: Remember you've had time to thoroughly appraise each offering. You don't get to ponder development of the Paxman, or consider what might work in the future, you have to choose from what's in front of you and what works now(1955-1959) And no regional variations, save for Scottish tablet catchers....... This is a standardised railway........ Steam must be eradicated by 1968. And Bond has been hauled over the coals for the Standard Steam building program.

It is a matter of public record that the BR Pilot Scheme was explicitly, or at least by association, terminated before any meaningful data had been accumulated about the suitability of the types on trial. Indeed some locomotive models were ordered in bulk even before the prototypes/pilots had turned a wheel in anger on BR metals. So, what if the Pilot Scheme had been allowed to run its course, and the wheat had been separated from the chaff, and the regions had been brought into line for the greater good of the network and the country. Based solely on the merits of the locomotives themselves, what would have been our standard types in the mid 60s? Based on what I've read and surmised, I've come up with the following. I've deliberately assumed that main line electrification didn't happen, on cost grounds (to make it more interesting/less interesting- delete where appropriate) and so the west coast main line was dieselised. I've also assumed that the BTC decreed that Diesel-Electrics will rule across the board: (TOPS Codes used for clarity): Standard Shunter: Class 08 Standard Type 1: Class 20 Standard Type 2: Class 26/27 Standard Type 3: Class 37 & Class 33 (BR(S) only) Standard Type 4: Class 44/45/46 - Heavy Freight, Cross Country & Secondary Passenger Locomotive Standard Type 5: Class 55 - ECML, WCML, GWML Express Locomotive Discuss?

Phew! I'm always worried when replying in these cases in case it's taken the wrong way....! So, happy to have helped. In response to your original question, though, I think the Minories would provide plenty of interest. With no loco release, every arriving loco is trapped and requires either releasing by the pilot, or the train loco to shunt the stock into the carriage sidings. In the case of platforms 1 and 2 (working from right to left of your first 3D image in post 12) this requires the railway equivalent of a double shuffle to get the stock into the head shunt, for then to be reversed into the sidings. and in between arriving and departing trains to boot. You mentioned Bradfield earlier, and I think that is a perfect example of a small station layout that can give hours of operating fun, but I think that relies on the fact that there is a set and in depth operating sequence provided for operating the layout (or at least the videos on YouTube suggest that). And it seems to operate with a reasonable amount of motive power to ensure there is a bit of variety withe regards trains arriving on scene.

May I caution slightly regarding train length? A Farish Mk1 is around 5.5 inches x 6 = 33 inches. And then for a Pacific you'd need to allow for another 6 inches for a Merchant Navy and slightly more for a Duchess, giving you around 41-41.5 inches total. I appreciate you may have been talking in general terms, and I know I'm talking in UK N scale terms, not 2mmFS; and it's only a matter of 5 inches (no sniggering at the back!), but I thought it worth raising in any case.....