cbeagleowner

Just to say I tried replacing the pony truck with a 28xx one but it was ever so slightly too long (I think) so the bogie wheels fouled the frames on 2nd radius curves when running forwards.

While I understand that this doesn't mean it's correct looking at the pics of the 5 car pack on rails website there seems to be one car that has no silver box on it. https://railsofsheffield.com/products/32298/Hornby-r3514-oo-gauge-hitachi-iep-bi-mode-class-800-0-gwr-5-car-train-pack

The wild swan LMS locomotive profiles book will be pretty good too. I don't have that one yet, but based on the info in the ones I do have you should find it answers most questions you could have.

Lovely as ever Dave! What's the plan now? That Waverley Route layout you're destined to make?!

Hi Jonathan - did anyone take these and the coach bodies off your hands? If not I thought they might be good to practice weathering on. And being a modeller of the peak line I thought that it might be that I qualify for the 'good home'! Yours richard

Hi - this is an era that I've found really interesting so I can tell you what i've found out for the Midland in Derbyshire at least. Re coaches I've seen pics up until about 1953 of LMS crimson with no LMS markings, roundel and with a M before the number. From memory I think the coaches in the 'fireworks and chilcompton' train pack are these. I have a feeling the M is serif, though I'm sure I've seen pics where it's not. There might well be variations on this but I'd have to study my books. I've seen 1 pics of a period 1 vehicle in 1951 (I think) still with the original livery, LMS and number. This maybe because it's older or just hasn't visited works for a bit. Re locos: Seemingly Derby and Crewe still renumbered locos with LMS on the tender. Highlights include a number of Jubilees in both Crimson and 1946 black with their Gill Sans BR numbers and smokebox plates. Also Patriots (though less) - But Beds and Herts was LMS crimson with BR gill sans number in 1950! You get '1946' Scots too. I'm no expert on the Pacifics though rails hamilton is 1946 with a BR number (though the letters on the tender are too low) One I do like is 43000 which ran in plain black with he proper 1946 letters on the tender. Beware of smokebox plates as some were gill sans, some LMS serif. And also Compound 934 which was in Crimson until 1950 If the photo I have is correct. It has a smokebox plate of 40934 - a winner for Bachmann perhaps! On freight engines you get similar but not with the gill sans in the photos I've seen. Derby put the number on with serif transfers. Crewe seemed to use the 1946 style font but without the outline around the numbers. The still might have serif LMS on their tenders thought. It would seem that at least the Garratts were renumbered with that no outline 1946 style font with LMS on the cab sides. Then of course you have the liveries where they've banged an M on the front of the number. Not my favourite, but still different. There are a few crabs I've seen in the style - the smokebox plate looks very odd as they've bolted the M on the LH side... then you get the BRITISH RAILWAYS liveries, which came in. interestingly I read that the big gap was because they thought they would put an emblem between the letters. They never did though. I hope that gives you an idea...I've picked this stuff up from reading books about the Peak line and seeing the photos from the period. Also David Hey's collection online is great. Eric Treacy took a good number of pics from the period which I've found interesting too. Finally of course, if you want livery advice, the Essay and Jenkinson 'locos of the las series' is great. But I would say trawl for pics - there is some surprising stuff!

I’ve just tried to do a simple mod on 8035 by swapping the front pony truck with one from a 28xx it looks better but the wheels are a couple of mm off centre and the 13mm wheel catches the frame. I could try the 12mm 28xx wheel tomorrow but it doesn’t quite seem right.

I asked a couple if days ago and they are still a way off i think.

Interesting to see an 8F engineering sample. Does this suggest that they've tweaked the tooling somehow?

One last little nugget for you from the new Midland Main Lines by John Palmer Observations of 10201/2/3 on the 12/5 Derby - St.P in Jan 1957 10201/2/3 on St. Pancras- Man; Derby - Manchester and trial workings from Toton (ECS)

Hi Holmesfeldian - Bob Pinxton's North Midland book has a picture of 10201 at Derby in 1951 on a St. Pancras train. I've also seen a couple of pics of Green 10202 at Millers Dale in 1957 in the Lowlander book but also if you go to http://railphotoprints.uk/p177325174 they have some pics of 10202 at Derby and Disley in 1960. My guess would be (uneducated of course!) that if they were overhauled at Derby works, then they would have been run in over the peak. Hence why you get random pics of 10800 and even Falcon (see here - http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_feature_424.php)though it would have been in the earliest livery of two tone green (see here - http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=830050016200)

Probably that i've not been praying attention but I was surprised that it wasn't the Ivatt cab; pleasantly surprised though!

I think its a Q6

Thank you!

HI there - these look very lovely indeed. I was just wondering looking at the list below and modelling the 1950's could you realistically model a train with some ICIW001, 2 and 3 in it or would there not have been that much cross over? Thanks in advance! http://www.hattons.co.uk/NewsDetail.aspx?id=148#ordervariations

I see that Golden Eagle is now with us. Interestingly the tender interior is painted blue unlike the previous BR blue releases. I know it's only a small point, but is that right, or should the tender top all be black? I'd be interested to hear any insights :-)

Love the wild swan Swiss...I plan on doing the same thing but into Silver Link. Just got to find a kingfisher first!

HI Nick, great to see the progress on Wormhole. I really love it and the idea. I'm sorry that you're frustrated with it. Since I last posted on your thread, I abandoned Hassop and started again because I couldn't get the track to work. Then I managed to build a layout loosely based on Chapel which was situated at Stoney Middleton (where a MML was joined by LDECR from the East turning right at New Mills junction) and due to unreliable running, curves that were too tight and gumming things up by paying too much attention to scenery have recently ripped it up and started again with just a two track section of the MML with a lie by. Every time I've have moments where I've come down from the loft and felt like I'd bin the lot, but as time goes by my resolve increases again. So maybe give it time and things will feel a bit better :-) Just a question for you if I may? I love the whole Sheffield - Stafford and Buxton to London idea. It might be that I should know this, but in your fictional universe, do trains to Manchester run via a Buxton Station siutated above Ash Terrace / near the engine shed site and continue up the LNWR to London Road? Or some other way? And what is the crack train that a Coronation works? I'm dead interested to know! If you want a bit more fun, using the LDECR you could have GC stuff coming through too?

Thanks Ron for a great and speedy transaction. Really great service :-)

HI there - does anyone have any idea what the bracket signals will look like? I take it that there will be 2 home signals on one central pole for the BR version. Or will they be 'handed' as with the GWR version previously shown? My friend asked at Warley and Dapol said that they would be 'early next year'