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If your infected, your spreading. even in lockdown, your in proximity of family. If your at work, your infecting others... your touching product on supermarket shelves, parcels in delivery, coins in your pocket, door handles... its still spreading so it will keep on going. lockdown isnt total isolation, lockdown just means more people arent exposed to it as could be... whats reducing the spread is less people moving about, thats all.. virus is as large and lively as ever, just invisibly waiting. Thats possibly why the number has stuck where it has, its reached a % of population thats exposed by daily movements of the unlocked few... the only way to “kill” it is 100% isolation.. thats not going to happen, the only other way is 100% exposure thats also unlikely. Right now the government is buying time in this lockdown, stocking up on ventilators, setting up field hospitals and other equipment so they can handle a much larger peak than the one we are currently exposed to, so that when they lift the lockdown, they can handle the increased case load of infected people that will inevitably follow, whilst trying to seek ways to minimalise those exposed.. this is just about %’s and keeping it as low as they can for as long as they can, but economics vs virus, the virus will win, we just have to hope for a milder mutation that we can afford to catch and it results in this severe version dying out, failing that.. a vaccine. Until then the puzzle for government is how much time they can afford to have many people at home, how much equipment they can secure, if they can hold out for a cure/vaccine and if not, what % of the population they can let face nature's natural selection.

If they announced when the Blue Merchant Navy was coming, that would suffice for me.

1980’s Scotrail or Regional Railways i’d have though more relevant.

Oops nice catch !.. measure twice separate once, seems to work in the bedroom ;-)

Social distancing... A point is where rails converge, connectors join rails... no excuses, keep your rails at least a scale 8mm apart at all times.

I think Ive got dejavu ...

Don't tell anyone but I've already modelled the stock in my photo on the page before.

I have acquired a 2nd and have been wondering what to do with it.. as for source.. numbers https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2716 zero injuries https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2078

Making statements attract responses. The mark of a man is to embrace opinions you disagree with, not by getting irritated because they dont agree with you. I don't buy the argument 2015-2020 period sells more than 2014-2015.. why, not because of this class 90’s livery, but because of everything else you own.. unless intensely diligent, you will end up with models outside even a 5 year time frame, not to mention inaccuracies of those within it... thats why model railway companies made “eras” .. time slices, not absolute years. Those eras overlap... I dont know your circumstance, but I suspect most work around an era of interest, overlapping to suit, and where desired allow tolerances, or make use of modelling skills to get a specific scenario. https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/era-system note era 10 covers 2007-2017, era 11 starts in 2014. Arguably eras 4,5,8,9,11 are most popular. This freightliner 90 strategically sits over 10,11 nicely. Those in 10 /11 will be happy, those who want the latest will make adjustments, and the silent majority wont care.

I work in cloud computing, and the down side of the lockdown is that business has gone mad, any thoughts of extra modelling time have shrunk. But the absence of new releases coming has seen me focus on some oldies, ive been remotoring Lima 31’s (and fitting a Railroad 66 motor into a Triang 31 !), as well as recovering an old SP Daylight thats had split axles since 2001.. made new axles from some plastic rod online... first time Ive run it in 19 years, alongside.... (i seem to have been breeding terriers too.. though they are all 30 odd years old). kind of puts perspective on things...

I finally got round to testing my first three yesterday. All three are perfect... nothing missing, nothing loose, nothing wrong with the finish. my Freightliner, DBS and L/L Blue all passed my testing, including on a 1st radius curve (i only have 1), set track point, angled gradient without issue, first time. if it runs on my shabby track it will run anywhere. just want to add a bit of balance to the negativity, now Ive a bit of spare time I intend to order a few more. Beats the pants off Bachmanns for detail, thats for sure, and I used to think Bachmann’s were’nt bad.

They added some extra wording under the various Freightliner logos, saying. “a Gennessey & Wyoming company” and some health motivator statements next to the cab doors saying “Zero injuries our goal every day”. I dont see why “Bachmann should have released it bang up to date”, a point in time is a point in time, every model ever released aims to replicate a point in time, just because modern image isnt “as I saw it this morning” doesnt mean its bad... its now historical. its a good job you weren't around in the 1990’s, 33008, 47145 had a livery mod almost every month... even Limas every 2 week releases couldn't keep up ! a few quid on transfers during lockdown will solve your problems,

They added some extra wording under the various Freightliner logos, saying. “a Gennessey & Wyoming company”, and some ISO complaint markings next to the cab doors. I dont see why “Bachmann should have released it bang up to date”, a point in time is a point in time, every model ever released aims to replicate a point in time, just because modern image isnt “as I saw it this morning” doesnt mean its bad... its now historical. its a good job you weren't around in the 1990’s, 33008, 47145 had a livery mod almost every month... even Limas every 2 week releases couldn't keep up !

Sounds like someone who has had a long happy marriage.

A Leader, and a class 89, are to me, the obvious gaps in unique rtr classes, but i’m excited by the thought of a Fell first.

The gearing in the small wheel motors (101/156/73/Bil/Belle etc) I believe is not the same as the larger ones (87/86/90/91 etc)... this was certainly the case in Lima. Also 5 pole is confusing... Hornby did make some 5 pole ringfield motors too... it was just the same old ringfield motor, with a 5 pole armature in, (not DCC ready), it did standout over the 3 pole in performance, but it sits in-between the 3pole ringfield and the 5 pole “can” motor in their current models... examples in my collection include 86261/86401 in EWS livery, so i’d say circa 2004-2012 models.

Lima used pancake motors in a broadly similar design to Hornbys (a little more engineered ), on all their UK range except the class 20 and class 67, though the class 40 was designed to have the chassis mounted motor, it appeared with the pancake, the gearbox is part of the dummy bogie moulding. Iirc there was a Lima plan to upgrade the class 50 to a central mounted motor, as well as OO gauge bogies and filling the sandboxes, but BR started withdrawing them enmasse and sales went through the roof so it was postponed. I dont follow Hornbys old class 91 too closely, but R3365 (East Coast) onwards has the new 4 wheel bogie with the can motor, which was also used in the Freightliner class 86 and the current range class 90’s. Prior to this was the ringfield motor dating back to the 91’s development (Service sheet 208b) though it had a 5 pole armature instead of a 3 pole armature for a period. (service sheet 285), There isnt a service sheet for the new Railroad 91, but there are a few gaps between sheets 400-420, it could be one of them. The same 4 wheel bogie seems to be used in the R2772/87 class 87, R2939 class 33, and r3xxx + releases of 86,90 & 91. hope this helps.

I was drawn to the outward opening doors on the drivers cab of 10100 there... not many diesel locos with outwards opening cab doors, must have been awkward boarding from the track level, though noted 1st gen DMUs were mostly this way.

If Falcon was the Diesel -Electric version of a Western... maybe that 47 on a Mainline Warship chassis should be called Pigeon, a Hydraulic version of a 47 ?

If you need couplings, I can help.

Germanys cases started with a cluster in a more remote part of western Germany, which coincidentally started with a cluster in Frances Eastern border.. which just so happen to be next to each other, so are probably related. The region is less dense, than London with 8million people, never the less it’s slowly spread, but the testing in France and Germany is a chalk and cheese comparison of what to do and what not to do and results are clear. London was always going to grow much faster, whilst an R-number of 2 or 3 is often touted as the virus average, it is an average.. one sneeze in a tube carriage in rush hour, could infect dozens at once and dozens more touching the handles during the day... London is very weak to defend from the virus... by counter a sneeze in the outer Hebridean isles is likely to affect little. That’s why this proposed mobile phone app based plan is doomed to fail if implemented in isolation... its honesty based, probably only on 20% worst case detections arriving in hospital, and so people will be isolating themselves in droves 3 weeks after exposure... and only 20% of those exposed will then go on to be detected at hospital...and then theres those infected by the tube carriage surfaces for the rest of the day after the infected passenger has exited the train... long out of Bluetooth range, and again detected 3 weeks later... They will need to be able to tests hundreds of thousands daily in London alone to be successful in this approach, even then unless it’s random testing they are waiting 5-14 days for people symptoms to show and come in for a test....unless they rely on the herd becoming immune over time.

I think that’s misguided. Ive not seen any science that suggests speaking German gives immunity to Coronovirus, or that sniffing the odours of the oder proffers immunity, or that German ventilators world better than ours, or even that really strong curry wurst is a cure. but based on today’s figures.. I’d wager that when Germany says they have detected 125k cases and approximately 2% have died, that Germany really had an infection rate close to 125k cases as they tested as many as possible to detect it, and 2.5% of that - 2,500 died. The “field” testing says what’s happening on the street today or recently.. Hospital testing only occurs after 5 -14 days symptomless spreading and 7 days illness (still spreading it) that’s suddenly got so bad you’ve gone to hospital. But conversely in the UK, when they say 12107 have died, that it represents 2.5% of the infection rate, of which 20% ended in hospital - 80,000 (we have 88k cases today), indicating the infection rate was around 650,000 cases in the UK 3 weeks ago.. much greater than Germany’s test results today. The difference being testing.. which is only done upon desperate cases arriving at the hospital doors... not mild cases detection in the community. Germans community testing is finding and shutting it down (reducing the R multiplier by taking even mild undetected cases off the streets), much sooner, and so keeping the scale down and the exit strategy much easier to predict... 0 cases today and for 2 weeks after then your clear. its not that the UK is badly prepared, it’s that our outbreak is much larger than Germany’s. Therefore the climb down from lockdown will be much longer, as the litmus test is the % of the 20% cases arriving at hospital... when it falls to c20 a day cases at hospital, and c2 deaths a day... that’s a sign of c100 infections a day in the wider community, 3 weeks ago... But without community testing, you don’t know if a cluster is developing, until the cases arrive at hospital 3 weeks later, by which time an R3 multiplier could take 10 cases to 800 cases by the time you find it, and 7200 cases before you stall it.

Plus disinfecting feet, mass testing, mandatory cleaning communal surfaces every hour, widespread use of temperature checks not just in government and transport, but restaurants, hotel, retail, frequent changing clothes... I saw it all in 2003 in HK... I felt invincible and still ended up with suspected sars, I described the symptoms on here, which people laughed. I described that the UK could end up isolated and locked down, shops closed, I was told I was hysterical. So I just withdrew, but kept on reading... I see now people are not laughing any more.. ultimately there’s no point wasting forum words. What makes Asia’s response even more mark able ...is even crowded HK, Singapore and South Korean cities are too, which makes it even more remarkable. But this is all alien to the west.... they don’t understand it and don’t listen to it... no one alive remembers the last great pandemic in Europe. Brits don’t even listen to each other. Politicians here already think its nearly over. Health professionals are under intense pressure to bow to economic needs. Europe just doesn’t understand it, and holds self belief In their powers of control, but sadly they will after the second wave.. if like others in history, will be much worse than the first... food for thought.. there’s more than one country in North America.. no one talks of 37m Canadians on one of earths largest land masses, on a border with the worlds largest cluster of cases.. just 25k cases... the biggest mitigator to this virus is distance...and anything you can do to block or increase that distance... that’s why it’s called social distancing, that’s why London is empty.. open it back up and it just comes right back at you. if masks don’t work.. then why are healthcare professionals using them and millions spent sourcing them ? anyway we’re a good social distance from Supermarkets... and risk infecting this thread.

Because Europeans don’t listen to Asians, instead they try to impose their will on each other, North American’s just seek to accumulate. if masks offered self preservation, you can guarentee everyone and his dog, would be wearing them, but that isn’t the case..., only those who have experienced this before are doing it. I understand healthcare workers getting priority, but the sheer levels of hostility towards those who have self procured them, often from overseas, is to me either jealous or misguided, it should be a personal choice, on personal needs.

My theory is that men are more brow beaten by women their nose collects the virus more. As women thumb up their noses more at men, the nasal passages are above the gravity line of the virus. it could of course be much simpler... men don’t wash hands all day, pick noses and digest more of the virus than women.