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I find this line a bit worrisome :-)

And after your finished with the model railway rainhill trials.... you can always wrap up with a Bachmann Gandy Dancer. http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_181

One of the differences in my two above..(post 565) . Is the whistle... 2 different types.. Such a subtle small detail..., hardly noticeable but still replicated. The detail differences i observed are: 1. Different whistle 2. Different safety valves 3. Looks like a sanding cap, next to the water tank hatch on the left side tank on '67 4. Extra pipe work between the two domes on '67 5. Extra pipe work below the cab on both sides (x2) 6. Step vs platform on both sides covering the smokebox steam pipes (x2) 7. Grab Handles vs vertical pipes on the tanks (x2) Looking at 30064 vs DS237 there's differences in paint finish around the buffer beams and the safety valves. (although I haven't bought it, the USATC version is completely different, with a different cab, bunker, steps etc).. That is also used on the LMR and NCB versions also)..

Spot the difference time... I've got 7 (technically 10) tooling differences spotted just in these 2 views of 30069 vs 30067...(excluding the logo or number) Fantastic levels of detail, I can spot differences between DS237 and 30064 too.... Bachmanns surpassed themselves on these... even the works plates on 30067 and 30069 reflect the differing works numbers ! It's play time !

How right you were,.. All 4 of mine arrived safely this morning, including MR 110 (DS237).. Patience (and Kernow) have rewarded me...

Bickershaw ? Perhaps. The line came out by Springs Branch shed in Wigan.Hattons' Hurricane is a Bickershaw J94. I've seen somewhere a J94 pushing MGRs and a pair of Blue 20's in the early 1980's.

Omg... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R2986-A-Date-With-The-Duchy-Limited-Edition-of-1000-/252512806426?hash=item3acaefa61a:g:8M4AAOSwMtxXvxQf Make sure you don't accidentally buy it now.

Actually i'm more worried the "hattons" pre-order approach.. I wait for the 4th and find the other 3 have gone !

I'm still waiting for any of my 4 on order (30064, 30067, 30069 and DS237). My credit card details are correct, I've had an order from both MRO and Kernow in the past few months, I know there busy, I got my yellow J94 in 48 hrs, I don't want to bug them, but.....

At the 2017and 2018 post-Brexit price.

I'm actually thinking there's a nice sideline in the screw fit nem coupling pockets too... I could do with more than a couple of these. If I want to put an NEM coupling to a US NMRA fitting this could be just the trick.

Haven't found and Railway cuttings here, but I did find this 18th century poem on Cheams wiki page, Not sure about Croydon though. "Sutton for good mutton; Cheam for juicy beef; Croydon for a pretty girl And Mitcham for a thief"

Just read the article and suspect it's a typo. It's in the "deliveries coming thick and fast" section amongst all the already announced stuff due soon for delivery. A nice surprise if it is.

We must be neighbours.

I get the impression these travelled. I'm sure I have a picture of these (or something very similar to) at Clapham Junction and East Croydon in middleton press books at home. edit: here's one at Clapham Junction, should keep the LBSC E4 entertained. http://lnwrs.zenfolio.com/p450235283/h5F0C012D#h5f0c012d

Industrials.... (Hornbys peckett seems to be selling well in advance orders)...Colourful, psychologically right priced, always room for a couple, crosses several time periods, well represented in preservation, largest gap in the market when it comes to selection / availability, less risky in an uncertain economy..(they are smaller / cheaper than a tender loco). Maybe a comparison of BR vs non-BR sales of J94s might be an indicator ? The obvious one to my mind is an 0-4-0 Andrew Barclay (and a crane tank version of it being really adventurous).

I'm thinking 40106, Bachmanns' members day is at the ELR in September, and 2 class 40's are hot off the press already. Though given we've had 20172, an 08, a wcrc 37, 2x Pullmans, sealink coaches, an MLV, exhibition coaches were a bit overdue an offering for steam modellers... Especially as all bar 1 of that list have yet to sell out... Vs the near perfect steam sell out (only the patriot so far left available). D335 could be an outsider 2nd guess from me. For steam, 13065, of course we could always be surprised by a bluebird.. A class would be nice.

On the subject of nameplates. I have 4 Dapol westerns. None of which are carrying the nameplates as placed on the box. This has been a boon for me, as I standardised on 1 nameplate manufacturer for my westerns ensuring the same consistent dimensions, paint finish and polish/steel finish of the plate, which often is not possible if mixing an OEM nameplate with that of other vendors for the same class. It is also sometimes an added issue trying to place a nameplate / number plate over than of a printed one, if the dimensions are not the same. Had they been printed I'd probably have purchased more cautiously. So I wish all vendors would go this route. (I understand some don't/can't/won't want to spoil a collectors finish and affix themselves but many buyers will be savvy enough to fix it, or ask their local shop to fix it for them (maybe this could be an optional extra before shipping to have them fitted ?) The other option is what Replica did with its class 45... Offer an unumbered one, with some rub on transfers for names / numbers in the box ? (Oh and I have 4 Dapol sets of western nameplates spare if anyone wants, as mine are now running as D1010/D1023/D1041 and D1048). As it is, I'm still considering doing a D1058. Post edit: On reflection of the above post... Just making unumbered examples and forget the nameplates in my case would have been fine. :-) so given the success of the western, and the relatively standard rail freight variant carried for many years by the class 92...An unumbered one may not be such a bad thing... Poll time perhaps ?

Still the wrong one for nunney castle, in BR livery either way. Hornby seems reluctant to do a single chimney late crest castle in any form. That said, it was the staple diet for many years prior on the old tooling, though that was the norm for the class. An easy one to do would be 4082 Windsor castle, early crest collett tender, photographs show it with curved, flat topped and stepped versions. Though admittedly one variant was that it swapped identities with 7013 Bristol Castle in 1952. Wasn't there a castle with an 8 wheeled collett tender at one point ? We seem to have strayed a bit from a King however.

I haven't seen this style in single chimney form ? Have they done it, in non-limited edition format ? Its a trade off of either a repaint, very expensive conversion or an incorrect top. That said if doing as preserved, theres no escaping that huge mechanical lubricator (I read somewhere is off 7027) added sometime in the last 5 years on the left side, and the PKP air pump on the right side, air pipes, electric pipes on the loco and the storage / gsmr boxes on the tender). ignoring some other details (pipes, handrails, steam pipes etc), as part of this thread, http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92697-Hornby-castle-class-differences/ and just focussed on the chimney / cylinders, for the newly tooled versions of the castle, Ive looked over: 4073 Caerphilly Castle - R3237 Single Chimney, curved sides, wrong livery (Great Western 3500gl tender) 5011 Tintagel Castle - R2848 Single Chimney, curved sides, wrong livery (Great Western Collett tender) 5043 Earl of Mount Edgecumbe - R3301 Double Chimney, Stepped top (BR early / Hawksworth Tender) 5053 Earl Cairns - R2822 Single chimney, flat top (BR early / Hawksworth Tender) 5068 Beverston Castle - R2849 Single Chiney, flat top (BR early / Collett Tender) 5075 Wellington - R3105 Single chimney, flat top, wrong livery ( GW / Hawksworth Tender) 7007 Great Western - R2958 Single Chimney, stepped top (Appears Correct loco body version ) but is a very rare limited edition, would need a GW crest removing off the splasher. (BR Early / Hawksworth Tender) 7023 Penrice Castle - R3118 Double Chimney, Stepped top (BR Late / Collett Tender) 7029 Clun Castle - R2994XS Double Chimney, Stepped top (BR Late / Collett Tender), DCC Sound. 7034 Ince Castle - R2850 Double Chimney, Stepped top (BR Late / Collett Tender), 7036 Taunton Castle - R2986 Freeman Duchy set Single chimney, flat top (BR early / Collett Tender) 7037 Swindon - R2852 Single Chimney, stepped top (BR Late / Collett Tender), would need a GW crest removing off the splasher - appears to be the best one to use but is a very rare limited edition. as for suitability, ranking would be (inc cab handrails, pipes and cab windows). 1. 7037 - correct style body, & tender, remove a crest (but this prototype could cost you over £200 notes !) 2. 7007 - correct style body, & tender, remove a crest (but this prototype is also over £150 notes !) 3. 5053 / 5068 / 7036 - almost correct body and for tenders: 1. 7037 - correct style body, & tender, remove a crest (but this prototype could cost you over £200 notes !) 2. 7023, 7034 or 7029 (note 7029 is a sound tender). My conversion cost: £80 for Penrice Castle, £20 for 5053 body, £10+ change for Fox Nameplates and sold the redundant Penrice body for £25. to come of course is Hornbys 5051 R3454 Dryswyllyn Castle, but who knows how that will appear, but the artwork suggests Single Chimney, curved sides, wrong livery (GWR Collett tender but correct handrails) I am thinking my Tintagel Castle might become 4079 at some point.

I'm sure Hornby will make more than just the 4 listed so far. Patience and it will come. I suspect picking the unpopular numbers first is a way of selling two bites at the cherry, if they made the BR blue on and a different numbered green one in BR first... what would everyone buy next ? Given the demand for the class, if they sell the 1st batch, I don't see why there wouldnt be more following. Chances are then the 1st batch will reappear swelling round on ebay as the "must have it nows" relinquish their purchases when the starlight fades.

I just did exactly that.I converted a 5053 body to 5029 Nunney castle in its 1960s late logo / single chimney form, by swapping the tender / loco chassis from a Penrice Castle. I removed the nameplates prior (and have them in a box), they pretty much fell off.

Not forgetting several are prone to Mazak rot too.

Agreed, especially when sales of the jubilees and 4MTs started to wane, the bodies and tenders sold quite well too. From memory, I recall selling (elsewhere) £23.95 for a chassis, £9.95 for the body and £12.50 for the tender. At the same time the whole loco would barely sell for £34.50. Trouble is I doubt today a 2MT body would get more then £15, leaving the chassis at £100+ I was surprised the new DCC ready jubilee wasn't compatible to the older jubilee, I'd have thought there would still be a good trade in upgrading older jubilees to dcc ready, as well as some interest in swapping speaker equipped tender chassis, and people wanting the newer short firebox jubilee bodies.