Ian Hargrave

I sincerely hope he does,otherwise it takes deja vu into new realms… No trains to MK due to rail strike thus I might be tempted to a quick bomb down the M1.

Let’s please not allow this thread to degenerate into a Blues v Reds price spat.

At the risk of repeating myself everyone’s track,stock and electrics are different. If it works for you then that’s fine.Sam’s “layout “ etc. is unique to Sam. I think we all know that….at least I hope we do.

Crossed that foot bridge changing from Vale of Neath train to catch connection to Swansea High Street. Stock was frequently stabled there IIRC whilst waiting for a return trip to Aberdare/Pontypool Road.

Where I stood many times watching Castles ( Landore being the place where Castles came from ) Halls,Stars and Saints…and then the performance of adding the front portion including restaurant car of a Paddington bound express to the incoming West Wales portion with the destination boards reading ‘Paddington and Pembroke Dock …or Neyland….or Fishguard Harbour’ etc. Now they really were interesting times. Good to see these photos.

Understood. Thanks for this.

Really ? Bachmann 9 F no tender pickups. New H 9F has them. On my layout ( see above) zero difference in performance. To repeat…new ,clean track pinned on baseboard. I had indeed expected better performance when you consider it has a chunk of die cast metal as well but I’m not getting it. That’s not to say it’s not a good smooth runner.It is. But the “ultimate 9F” ? I think not.

Really ? Good news comes to Froth City. .Hallelujah from a long term 17 B old lag !

Just attempted to shorten the coupling distance between loco and tender. The way forward to the shorter position I found impossible to achieve as it seems blocked by the wiring which appears to need removing in order to do it. I’ve had to admit defeat.IMHO poor design and disappointing on what is essentially a very good model.But it’s not as good as it should be and if some think it’s the ultimate 9F then maybe ponder a while and look to see how our Continental HO opposites manage this without a hitch and with effective working mechanisms..We an do better than this.

That’s the one.

Given Hornby’s recent awkwardness over The Titfield Thunderbolt copyright etc. I had wondered that. But I don’t think any bones are broken here. At least,I hope not.

Ah yes,I see now what you mean.Had you not pointed that out to me I wouldn’t have known it was lurking there. The Bachmann service sheet isn’t informative about it. It certainly isn’t visible under normal operating circumstances and AFAIC isn’t a game changer .

Just looked at both versions to confirm.In. In neither is it visible.

Absolutely agree. In fact the Bachmann referred to in my earlier post is a weathered 92189.

Please let’s not be unkind. Sam has a proficient knowledge of the workings of rtr models as he ably and frequently demonstrates. He just needs…excuse a phrase of sinister overtones….re educating. And please do not make suggestions as to how on this forum which will incur the wrath of our Mods.

But the ones I’m using are Castle Cement of a quite different era..Nice photo though

So then,to return to the 9F. Having been initially unconvinced by Hornby’s release,being the train tart that I am,I succumbed and thanks to excellent service from Bure Valley Models,I have now been running 92167 for a couple of hours or so. It is indeed a lovely thing.Beautifully and securely packaged in an attractively styled box.It is,as expected an excellent performer.on my 8’x4’ tabletop . The test train consists of 15 Accurascale cement tanks ..not prototypically correct I know but they just happen to be there conveniently. Also at hand is a Bachmann 9F of fairly recent vintage. So then is there atm any significant advantage one way or the other ,bearing in mind that these observations are relevant only in my circumstances and on DC only with Gaugemaster new Combi on new fluff free track 28 “ radius pinned securely on board ? As of now,there is little difference in performance and both are convincingly models of a BR9F. This however is just my rambling and I am no YouTuber. You pays your money and you makes your choice

Litigation is the land of last resort. Over model trains ? We are ourselves responsible for the phenomenon by giving him and others like him air.

Exactly so. The only “good news” is no news. Shock horror news arrests our attention and sells ( but not it appears in the case of Sam’s 9F ) Two possible conclusions : either Sam is allergic to 9F’s or they to him and his.

And not just those but the condition of his track and its coping capacity with the carpet subsoil. Not the optimum situation to test something which he considers overpriced.

I think we need to exercise our own judgment on this. Examples running on this forum would seem to confound his observations.We’re again into the Sam locomotive trials,21stC style. Why ? Because it’s all too easy to allow someone to make up our minds for us as opposed to buying one and running it for ourselves and because we’re over dependent on media influences. Every layout is different and subject to differing track and control variables,carpet notwithstanding. I despair. I’m buying one in any case.If it doesn’t live up to my expectations,then so be it.Life’s like that.

Delving into the working life of the coal containers,I discover that they were used in the transit of phurncite from Abercwmboi .Which brings memories of the plant and its revolting polluting fumes back to me. We lived just a couple of miles up the valley in clear sight of the plant which was designed to produce a cleaner fossil fuel. Maybe so,but for years I breathed in the air tainted by sulphur yellow clouds ( made much worse if it became foggy,which it frequently was during the 1950’s. ). The stench was quite something,for a fuel designed to burn cleanly.Heaven knows what long term effects on the health it had on all living within range .So,in memoriam, as it were,I’m assembling a rake of Cawoods..I think both my late parents and grandfather would have a chuckle over this….especially as mum was a District Nurse..

My experience with Accurascale dispatch and DHL delivery has also been entirely positive throughout the last few months.,matching the quality of the product.

A very far reaching judgment.And I would imagine that this is headed for the Supreme Court. Environmentalists aren’t going to let this one rest when apparently they have concerns for the liability of those going about legitimate work on HS2 sites. Legal fees must be astronomical.

It is indeed green .Derails have it at £160.