FPH 603

Can no one else see it? I've only just noticed it!

That's the exact same problem with recreating any sort of vehicle. I make several attempts to 3D print but the furthest I've gotten is fixing up errors. My interests do change frequently, so I have a bit of a habit to abandon a project in favour of another. Although most times it's the stupid program wreaking the model. There's always some kind of distortion that's going to wreak it all.

Have one recently involved in an incident being towed away or sitting around somewhere!

That looks just like the sort of frequency that my line would have. I think that the occasional express would work too, which I'd think would be similar in the way that they'd go from the terminus station straight to the junction station at the main line, then I'd probably make them continue through the main line to York. There would have to be gaps in between services to allow parcels trains and departmentals to squeeze through, and there's also other things, which I won't go too far into.

Does anyone have a link to this website?

There's no room for freight as such, although there is still a couple of non passenger services, including departmental and parcels trains. There are some huge gaps between services too, not really my cup of tea. Still pretty helpful though.

How interesting... I never knew this was actually part of the plan. Then what changed? What made BR withdraw steam locomotives earlier than planned? I suspect (but don't know for sure) that this could have been Beeching's doing.

I model the BR North Eastern Region in the 1960's and 1980's periods. I've left out the 1970's due to the Beeching Cuts and so it has more variety. EDIT: When I said in my last post about the Depot, I wasn't referring to Neville Hill, in fact I was referring to one located off one of the stations of the branch line.

Looks good. I follow with interest.

Other than in preservation!

Very valid points there. My 'Fiddleyard' would (most likely) be up four cassettes stowed underneath the layout, each would span over a metre. In terms of times in between trains, for off peak services, the gap between trains would be 1 - 2 hours. However since my layout is a dual platform terminus, the trains would remain at the platform for 5 - 10 minutes, at times up to 15 minutes if the service they run goes back to the depot. Somewhere in between that waiting time another train would run into the second platform. This would give the 'All Clear' for the first train, allowing it to depart. I'd run departmental and parcels trains in between too. These would come once or twice a day. Peak hour times would be halved, meaning that trains would be only 30 minutes to an hour apart. And the trains would leave a bit quicker too, meaning they only wait a few minutes before departing. Getting to York from the junction station would take about half an hour, assuming that's how far away from York it is. If I was to run only one DMU and one service, it's pointless to have a dual platformed terminus, and really there's a lack of variety. I'd prefer to have a few services or a few different trains to add variety. Regarding the reason why the trains are mostly DMU's, this is what a branch line would usually have. It's only really the 1980's period that has more DMU's on my layout, as I'd think BR would have eliminated most locomotive hauled services from branch lines. It's also a pain (for BR) to operate them on my terminus as there's no run around point, meaning the locomotive is trapped. Another locomotive would have to come along and couple up, and depart with the train. The other locomotive would have to go light engine and wait in a siding for the next locomotive hauled service, and then take it when it's ready to depart. After that it goes in a cycle, over and over again. This is the sort of thing I'd do with the parcels train, and a couple of the 1960's services. There is actually only one DMU service in the 1960's, the other three (including the parcels train) are steam hauled. Multiple working is also a bit of a pain for BR. My station can only fit a three car train at the most. 4 car sets would have to comprise of two 2 car sets. These would split after they arrive and the rear half of the train would have to go the other platform. If necessary, at departure they would couple up again and leave as the 4 car set again. Shorter two car trains would provide shuttles along the branch line, whilst three or four car trains would continue to York. In the 1960's as you say locomotive hauled trains run the through trains, whilst the single DMU unit will do shuttles to the main line.

So you're going to 3D scan the APT whilst there are people sitting in it? It'll be great if you're going to have 3D scanned volunteers sitting in the seats! That'll be a first in railway modelling! EDIT: Grammar...

As is diesel and petrol!

If I was to buy RTR I usually aim for discounted/pre-owned models, as they are cheaper (obviously!) and they may even have potential for a detailing project. For example I'd choose Hornby's Class 101 Over the Bachmann model as most of them are three car sets (unlike Bachmann's two car ones), they are (mostly) cheap, you can detail them to great extents and you get more for your money (I.e THREE CARRIAGES for £60.00!)

I've had millions of different visions for my layout, and at the beginning it was very unstable and was prone to changing frequently. But as I got into building it, this still occurred but I had much better ideas and most of them were actually retained or at least deeply thought about before making a final decision.

Anything happening lately on this? From looking at those links in your last post what you're proposing looks very good. I follow with interest, and I hope all goes well.

Well then, I knew there was something wrong about that listing. I was going to make a full on rant about this, but I thought it wouldn't be worth it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/lima-Hornby-class-101-motor-coach/122894582118?hash=item1c9d168166:g:008AAOSwSrNaTSL- Damn, "UK bidders only please" he says. I feel left out. I was very tempted to make a bid on that. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere...

Watching that timer's like New Years Eve all over again. Except I fell asleep 10 minutes before the new year!

The Blue Pullman in Grey/Blue will be very interesting indeed. I too wonder what will be in store for Bachmann's new DMU's.

Must be a freelance one.

That looks great! I'm liking what's happening here, but I might change the frequency of the services going to the terminus. Originally I opted that at every station two trains would meet. This is (in my opinion) unrealistic, so I think it'll be better to reduce that a little. This will make it a little more logical and balanced out.

Hi all, some would have noticed that I've changed the title of the thread (AGAIN!). I've been doing a fair amount of work recently, and when I went 'DMU Model Hunting' I had not much luck for 1970's stock, because they were all PLAIN BLUE! Pretty boring, right? So I thought that I'd tweak the eras I'm modelling in. I've abandoned the 1970's and have gone back a decade to the 1960's, allowing me to run steam hauled services and one or two green DMU's. I got this idea from one of my several help threads about various subjects in making this layout, though I can't remember which one or who posted it. The 1980's will remain very much the same, but I may end up running a couple of Blue/Grey units alongside my refurbished 108 and perhaps ONE plain blue unit. At the way I'm going here's how it's all going to work: 1960's: Steam Hauled Services - Will comprise of Ex LNER locomotives with Ex LNER coaches, pretty simple here. I'm thinking maybe a J94 & N2, along with my J50 Class, hauling Gresley and Thompson Coaching stock. DMU's - Will include a 2-car Met-Camm Lightweight in BR Green. Parcels Trains - One train of three BG vans, or GUV's, or both hauled by one of the steam locomotives. Vans will be Maroon, maybe one could be still in Crimson/Cream. 1980's: DMU's - Will include a 3-car Class 101 (yes, they were very common in the NER/ER!) in Blue/Grey, a 2-car Class 105 Cravens Unit in Plain Blue, along with my Refurbished Class 108. Parcels Trains - One train of three BG vans, or GUV's, or both hauled by Diesel Locomotive. Vans will be Blue/Grey. EDIT: WHY DID I WRITE CLASS 101? ITS A MET-CAMM LIGHTWEIGHT!

Yes, it's a very scenic photo. It's something different too.

Or model trains!