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Nuts Yes We're still testing.

Howdy all, Michael here! We have finally received our production sample and you can view it here: Id like to take a minute to explain a bit of what is going on with the painted production sample, as i'm sure you can notice just a couple of things wrong. Rather than leave you in the dark and try to sweep it under the rug, I wanted to address some of the understandable concerns with the model. First and most notably, the colour. Yes, the paint should be glossy and on our sample, it isn't. Due to translation errors, this was an error on our factories part, but is easily fixable and the model you receive will be glossy. On that note, we are very happy with the colour we have chosen, and in my honest opinion has come out very well on the model. Secondly, damage to the model. Unfortunately, the model we have used for testing and photography arrived to us damaged. Neither me nor my father were happy to receive the model in this state, but due to customs manhandling and poor care for the model in transit, a couple of features on the model are damaged. We can assure you that when you receive your model, it will not arrive damaged. We aren't using a second rate courier to handle your packages, or having some underpaid delivery man throw it around for a bit of fun. We did what we could to repair the model so that it would appear as it should in the video we have taken. I hope you all understand that we don't want to disappoint or lie to any of you, and we don't want to deliver you a half-assed broken product. We are doing everything we can to ensure that you receive the best quality model that we can deliver. If any of you have any questions regarding the production sample, I would be happy to answer them here or via email at research@krmodels.co.uk.

Send me an email at research@krmodels.co.uk and i'll see what I can do for you.

Cost of shipping isnt a mystery, nor has it ever been. UK delivery is £4.50, Europe outside of UK is £19, and rest of the world is £23. Due to the current climate, delays were inevitable, but we are on track for late July/early August. And nor will it. We want it done right, not done quick. If it takes us more time to get the last details ironed out, then so be it. That being said, this is the last of the list to finish. Once finalised, production starts.

Quick update for you guys: Updated screenshots!

Which is why we are including the rod separate on both the early BR Black livery AND the Brunswick Green livery. If people want the 4-8-4 config in either livery, it is entirely their prerogative. We were asked to look into it, and as it turns out we can absolutely do it. If you don't want to use the connecting rod, then don't. Its not gonna cost you any extra for the rod.

Might I suggest that you do MORE research. As we HAVE stated before, we are supplying the additional connection rod as an accessory, and the photos supplied is of the other side. The loco does NOT have matching sides. Therefore making your argument/criticism null and void. Also, as stated before these CAD drawings are NOT the final renderings. Some customers wanted the 4-8-4 wheel configuration as well as the 4-4-4-4 version. But seeing as you don't want one why do you care?

As stated in my previous post, these are still preliminary drawings. Nothing is set in stone, things are still yet to be added (like the handrails above the nose), and things are still subject to change. But yes, you are correct, there isnt going to be a scenario that we can cover all the different changes that the Fell went through. This is why we are giving the option of the coupling rod, so that if people want the 4-8-4 version over the 4-4-4-4 version, they can have it.

Just to dispute this, you are only posting one side of the locomotive. The Fell being notorious for its hideously ugly design was also not symmetrical in any way. It doesnt matter which way you split it, it doesn't perfectly match the opposite side. To find that picture, you MUST have found a picture with the other 2 grills on the opposite side and then proceeded to deliberately ignore them. Here is the picture of the other side you have neglected to show: As stated in the email, these are still preliminary designs, not confirmed and set in stone. We have done our research.

As we have shown with the Flask Wagon, if the project does not go ahead, the money that you have put forward will be refunded to you. So far, we are still receiving steady orders and we are fully aware a lot of people are struggling in the current climate, but we aren't as far off our target mark as people think. Once we hit our target mark, we give our factory the go ahead. Stated here from Pre Grouping Fan is what is happening. A lot of expressions, but not enough orders. Once we have hit our target mark of units ordered, we give our factory the green light to start the tooling.

The colours were directly taken from an original photo taken as it rolled out of the foundry. It's not commercially available. Most of the material has been colourized, which gives a distorted colour scheme.

Yeah, my father meant his comment entirely in jest, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack at all. I sincerely hope you didn't take it as such, and if you have we apologise. - Michael

I'm not giving Mr Isherwood any credit for any proposed suggestions We'll never hear the last of it lol

Quick update for everyone! We have decided on the colours we are using for the GT3, we are happy with the decision we have made, and we should have pictures to share with you soon. We are also hosting a live Q&A on our Facebook page as well, so if you have anything you want answering, find out more on there. Its going to be on Tuesday at 7PM GMT. Both me and my father will be on there, so feel free to ask us anything.

What about shiny and chrome? Surely that must have some interest haha

We were considering neon pink at one point, but we both agreed that maybe that's just a little too far off.

Big thank you for all the help we have received on this thread, it is greatly appreciated and has absolutely helped in figuring out the correct colour for the GT3. We should have a definitive answer for the colour very soon with photos to follow.

As gary_Iner pointed out, it is a minefield that we are trying to navigate with great difficulty. We aren't going to please everyone with the colour we choose, all we can do is try to make an informed and calculated decision regarding the colour and hope people don't blast us too harshly. Trust us when we say we are doing the best we can with our circumstances. This isnt easy as i'm sure you can understand.

The actual appearance of the GT3 model wont have weathered paint. My post was merely to point out that all of the source material we have are all weathered photos, not the actual locomotive itself, and so trying to gauge the actual colour of the loco is difficult due to that. This is very helpful, and i'm assuming from the photos you have used that this is Tim Coles GT3. Admittedly, that is a very good start, but personally I feel that the brown on there is a little too bright, a bit too chocolatey. (But that's just my personal opinion) This is important to us, because we aren't the ones buying the model. You are. We want to know your thoughts and feelings as this project progresses, which is why I've been so open to suggestions throughout the project. And this is the biggest problem we face. We cant find much more source material that isnt very old or has faded colours, and even restored photographs might not have the right colour, so inevitably there's going to be some backlash or some outrage over this. We want it to be as accurate as possible, but its difficult to ascertain that. The detail on models is everything, no matter how large or small the detail might be, and we pride ourselves on working had to bring a quality product that we can all be proud of.

Michael here, something to bring up to you lovely folks. All of the images and material we have that contain that the GT3 all have their colours washed and its hard to pull the precise exact colour from them. The question I want to pitch is (before we set anything in stone) if we use those as accurate source material, would this be acceptable?

The EOI shows that interest, we aren't asking for any monetary commitment right now. We just want to see who will buy if we make it.

Let me explain how we are going with the same numbers. If 800 customers express interest, to us that looks like we are going to be making roughly 1200 models, give or take a few. We know most people will want to order 2, 3 or even 4 models from us. And we have accounted for that. We have also factored in the 20%ish of people that will remove their expression, or not place an order despite signing up for the expression. If we can hit our target figure of customers, factoring in the above, then the model will be made. If we deem it a risk worth taking, then why shouldn't we.

We don't. We see each expression as one customer, not one model that they want to order. It is simply to see how much interest is there and if we do want to continue, how viable would it be. It isnt meant to be a 1:1 concrete idea of how many models we are going to sell.