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for £60 with lights? Where’s this from, I thought the DCC ones were more £75…

hit with hammer, I knew Hermes were bad but…

@G-BOAF I have to agree with your rule, for my stuff I’ve envisioned that the NRM has a better use of its heritage diesel and electric fleet. Things like 87002, 47798, 55002 and 37350 all get runs on the main line for charter use! It is shocking how the NRM treat its D&E fleet tbh, they just seem to be fobbing groups of people off who want to see these things run unfortunately.

Could always use a Deltic we know there passed on the WHL...

I’d love to upload the video of 66779 pulling them, but the forum doesn’t allow for videos to be uploaded. You can tell when it reaches the gradient and curve at the same time but no issues on the flat going round curves only a slight loss in power when it gets to both on my rake of 14, however I feel lots of things would need a banker on your climb! I don’t own a Hattons 66 love em or hate em, I was tempted but unfortunately I didn’t have a brilliant time ordering with Hattons near there time of release and then when they had so many damaged/axel problems at the price I just didn’t see the point I was happy with the Bachmann model and a lights upgrade. But this is de-railing the thread. I have to have train lengths of that length as eventually when space allows I’d love to have a proper exhibition layout for the 2010-2018 era. 12 is as short as you can really get away with but 14 makes a really good impression of length.

I have to say my Bachmann 66779 pulled my rake of 16 with relative ease until an incline and even then I just added some weight to the shed, as I would have expected to do given the length of my rake…

Between us we beat him to it though? 🤣 I certainly plan on a full GNER blue rake, and hopefully a couple of Virgin rakes when they do the inevitable re run of the LNER/Virgin rakes. Like with the HST’s.

I’m quite happy with my collection of three, although work will be done to 91118 to make it into Virgins 91109. 91117 will become 91118 in the GNER blue with East Coast white stripe.

I’m about to receive my GNER one today, however my plan is to turn it into 91118 ironically. (I have also purchased 91118 but that will become 91109 in Virgin Livery, I’m thankful that the LNER over vinyl isn’t a different shade on the model I was banking on Hornby not getting the detail right). 91118 was the last to go for a repaint out of GNER blue, it lasted until around the 9th of August 2014 when it was dropped off at Doncaster Wabtec. See my own photos, note the last bits of remaining GNER orange! Now just to figure out what the last set of Mk.4 stock was in that livery 🤣

Well in theory that’s not stock you would allocate for sale. But yes you would need a percentage to allow for warranty replacements.

@brushman47544 I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t be honest about what they are wanting to see on here? At the end of the day it’s also interesting to hear about variations such as your 31135 with yellow cab window surrounds, it actually lead me to go find some photos of it. It’s an interest thing that loco looked like that but is well away from my era but nice to see it anyway! Your not making a commitment, I don’t see anyone saying to prod at something being made requires a £60 deposit and a signed contract of purchase… As the guys at AS say they intend on producing everything, so I’m sure your deltic might be in the next batch or the one after that if you put AS down 🤣 then your Mk.2b’s might turn up if your nice in the next batch too… I think the point here is we are discussing the Locos and the stock and the liveries they carried and the little special one off’s like painted cabs or white walled tyres etc… to share our interest in the hobby and maybe point something out to another modeller that they could have as a little bit of interesting rolling stock.

The question with Hornby is can they swim faster than the tide now? After just plodding along assuming that everything is fine and no one is going to steal there market away from them. Now they have a struggle, a hastily thought up new tooling of the HST could be dissasterous! All of a sudden this 'other' manufacturer releases a brilliant detailed model with all the bells and whistles and gadgets and gizmos that Hornby couldn't do, but in the meantime another manufacturer takes a shot at there other remaining good selling D&E models and they don't see it coming and are blindsided by it. Now they don't have a D&E range other than railroad and the market has gone from them. The HST they produce now has to be spot on. Then they have to look at the rest and get that right, quickly if they are to remain...

Would ideally the situation be best if Hornby divided up its allocation into 4 groups. The first of which is a batch for themselves to sell at full price on there own website, maybe 20%? The next group is the majority of the stock say 50% available to the top 2 tiers of shops for around announcement pre-orders. Then 15-20% available for the shops Hornby class as the worst retailers to sell meaning you can still get them but you'll have to be quick. Then finally 10-15% available to the top tier for shops to request extra for pre-orders/shop stock if they choose too? This way Hornby still sell some at full whack! The physical shops have plenty for stock and the ability to request more for pre-order? Or am I applying too much common sense?

It would certainly be good to get some niche test stock as long as the detail is there wonder if they would do a BUO 98xx or mentor or something along those lines? But I'm just happy for the DBSO/RTOV 🤣

Tbh I for one don't mind people making a prod to which engines they want to see, and I'm sure the guys at AS don't mind either. It's a bit like free market research to see which ones keep getting a mention so they know which ones are most likely to sell!🤣 I keep prodding for a 31190 in its last mainline condition *cough* 😉 At the end of the day this is a discussion so if we all sat here in silence waiting for AS to post you might as well not have a profile 🙃

Maybe the delay is so that the production slot is confirmed. Look at KMS with the 73/9, obviously the production slot isn’t there. If Rails want to keep it simple then best not to announce it till you know it’s going to arrive. And that’s how AS are preferring to do things, so maybe a combination of those means it’s stuck at EOI. I think there’s a good chance we will have an Accurascale/Rails 89…

Just asked my retailer and he says that the LNER and GNER ones are due to them early next week. Hopefully I should have my hands on mine this time next week! So I can send them both off for reworking 🤣

Hopefully there will be! I thought I was bad with 4! Im looking for modern Era ones, 86259 would be one for me!

I thought you'd have cut your fingernails first @Accurascale Fran 😉🤣

Do you know I don't even know who this company is that has shaken Hornby to its core?

That's what you think! The Hornby D&E team have another idea!🤣🙃

Ohhh yes I've seen people attempt to model the region and struggle to get hold of RTR stock, but if you had the 90's and Mk.3's. The anglia 86's and Mk.2's then at least a few could model the likes of Norwich, Ipswich and northern bits of the main line then those who model the southern can also pick up the Locos and LHCS and hopefully you might get some units to go with...

Yes that would also be true! But it's a bit late now for easter eggs... As do I, but mainly for the same reason. Because no one else is making that model, so I have to make do with what is available and hope that the new tooling and features will be in an improvement and not a massive failure. I was talking to a friend and both of us basically agreed what you have said in term of there designers and D&E people, so I said they should just employ some really good rivet counter (D&E version) who has no social skills to proof the designs so they will be right 🤣 The fact is in a couple of hours we can think of a few liveries that in 20 years Hornby haven't bothered to do, it's not like the tooling isn't there it's just the effort... Or as @newbryford has mentioned done the correct shade of blue...

Seen as they are almost the same company, it might be closer than you think... (If it comes in a red/yellow box that is)

Well I think this could be the first 40 to enter my fleet! Hopefully one of 40145 is due soon with a high intensity headlight!