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I think that too. I don't have an IRS handbook for that period so I can't confirm it but I think there was one there in 1979. I think it was then Ribblesdale Cement, I'm assuming the location was the same. David

Some photos taken at Brig in 1988. Brig is situated at the Swiss end of the Simplon tunnel and is used by both BLS and SBB trains. Brig Re4/4iv 10101 Brig to Geneve 9th Aug 88 C10562 Brig BLS Re4/4 183 l e 9th Aug 88 C10569 Brig BLS Ae6/8 208 9th Aug 88 C10570 Brig Re4/4ii 11179 EC Lutetia Geneve to Milano 9th Aug 88 C10583 Brig BLS Ae8/8 272 and SBB Ae6/6 11484 Milano to Geneve and Basel 9th Aug 88 C10584 David

Some photos taken on Teesside for today. The 1993 visit was on a nice sunny day. Thornaby 37885, 37503, 37512, 47224 up 12th May 90 C14452 Thornaby withdrawn locos 45041, 20174, 47180, 08787 14th April 93 C18442 Tees Yard Class 142 down pass 14th April 93 C18446 Middlesbrough Castle cement diesel shunter 14th April 93 C18447 Middlesbrough 37420 goods to docks 14th April 93 C18456 David

Göschenen today at the northern end of the Gotthard tunnel, again in 1988. Göschenen Re4/4ii 11369 Chiasso to Schaffhausen 8th Aug 88 C10496 Göschenen FO Dhe4/4 94 to Andermatt 8th Aug 88 C10499 Göschenen view north 8th Aug 88 C10508 Göschenen Re6/6 Chiasso to Schaffhausen 8th Aug 88 C10520 Göschenen 2Re6/6s 11628 and 11671 train to Chiasso 8th Aug 88 C10528 David

Some from the southern end of the Settle and Carlisle today. Settle Junction Class 110, leading a mixed set, Leeds to Morecambe July 67 J956 Settle LMS 8F down mineral Dec 66 J718 Helwith Bridge BR 9F 92076 up goods Dec 66 J714 Selside LMS Jubilee up Waverley Edinburgh to St Pancras Aug 65 J247 Ribblehead LMS Class 5 down goods April 67 J0858 David

It was already moving quite fast but I've never known trains on the ECML hang about.

Thanks very much Phil. I thought it was about time I got a loco number wrong again! David

Some photos taken at Gurtnellen for today. Gurtnellen is on the north ramp of the Gotthard,to the north of Wassen. The photos were taken a year after the summer floods of 1987 so repair work was still going on and there is a lot of newly exposed rock visible. As you can see the weather was very dull. Single line working was in force to the south of the station as the flood damage required extensive repairs to the trackbed. Gurtnellen Re4/4ii northbound Chiasso to Schaffhausen 8th Aug 88 C10467 Gurtnellen Re6/6 southbound Basel to Chiasso 8th Aug 88 C10469 Gurtnellen Re6/6 EC Tiziano Milano to Hamburg and Re6/6 southbound cars single line working 8th Aug 88 C10474 Gurtnellen Re6/6 northbound Wilhelm Tell Express Locarno to Flüelen 8th Aug 88 C10476 Gurtnellen RBe4/4 northbound Airolo to Zug 8th Aug 88 C10479 David

Some photos of the ECML taken between Darlington and Durham this evening. It's a part of the country we haven't visited much so far. Most of the photos are quite recent - only 18 to 20 years old Hett Mill 60020 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824 Sunderland Bridge 47358 Alcan Lynemouth to Cardiff 31st May 96 C21011 Sunderland Bridge 60021 empty lime redcar to Hardendale 30th May 95 C20207 Croxdale Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X The Talisman and Class 31 down light engine 5th Aug 76 C2954 Croxdale Class 43 down Northern Lights Kings X to Aberdeen 18th Oct 97 C23156 David

Blonay in Switzerland today with some photos taken in August 1978. Blonay is a station on the Chemin de Fer electriqus Veveysans which runs from Vevey to Les Pleiades. Today it is a part of the MOB group. It is also at one end of the Blonay Chamby railway which is a preserved line. Blonay CEV Bt 222 and BDeh2.4 5th Aug 78 C4010 Blonay CEV Te2.2 81 5th Aug 78 C4011 Blonay CEV Bt 222 5th Aug 78 J6246 Blonay CEV BDeh2.4 71 Vevey to Les Pleiades 5th Aug 78 J6250 Blonay. Blonay Chamby railway Geneve Tramwways 125 5th Aug 78 J6251 David

A few from around Waterloo and Clapham Junction for today. Most of my photo's (and Dad's) were taken whatever the weather if we happened to be near a railway - so some do look a bit drab. I always found that no matter how dismal the weather is a trip to watch and photograph trains always lifts my spirits. It was even more noticeable when I was still working when taking photos was a good antidote to the trials and tribulations of the job, so I took (and still take) photos in almost any type of weather. Waterloo Platform 6 June 75 C2139 Waterloo East Class 411 7123 up pass Jan 79 C4266 Clapham Junction Class 416 5781 May 81 C5369 Clapham Junction Class 455 5819 down pass 21st Nov 87 C9253 Clapham Junction Class 47 47567 Red Star to Liverpool 21st Nov 87 C9268 David

I'm not convinced that the cab roofs were always grey from new. The locos were delivered from 1965 when it was only just being decided to use Rail blue and grey. It is very difficult to tell from colour photos on flickr (or elsewhere) as very often the roofs are overexposed, so you cannot tell whether they are grey or white. However there are a number of mine and Dad's photos of 86s in this thread and on flickr, a number taken from overbridges. Some are clearly grey, but others which are not over exposed, look white, certainly in comparison to the grey dirt on parts of the roof To be honest I doubt we'll ever know for sure. However almost all the references I can find, both in print and on the web suggest white as the roof colour, when first built. Incidentally the original colour of the locos seems open to debate, some sources state rail blue, others electric blue. Most of the photos I have are clearly rail blue, but in one or two early ones the loco looks considerably paler than blue grey coaches David

More from Switzerland in 1988 today, this time on the north ramp of the Gotthard around Amsteg Silenen station. Amsteg Silenen Re4/4i 10004 Zug to Airolo 8th Aug 88 C10444 Amsteg Re6/6 11685 northbound 8th Aug 88 C 10451 Amsteg Silenen Re4/4i 10004 Airolo to Luzern 8th Aug 88 C10452 Amsteg Silenen Re4/4iii 11357 Basel to Chiasso 8th Aug 88 C10453 Amsteg Silenen Re4/4i 10004 Airolo to Luzern 8th Aug 88 C10454 Amsteg Silenen Re6/6 11623 EC Herman Hess Stuttgart to Milano 8th Aug 88 C10456 David

Some electrics for today, south of Rugby. Kilsby Tunnel Class 86 E3181 down ex pass March 67 J0835 Weedon Class 86 E3179 Euston to Manchester Aug 69 J1812 Long Buckby 310056 Euston to Birmingham Aug 69 J1815 Hillmorton Class 86 E3183 down freightliner Aug 69 J1820 Kilsby Tunnel Class 86 Birmingham to Euston Oct 70 J2408

Some more from Denmark this evening. As you will see from the photos the weather is not always good when I go on holiday. Humlebaek DSB Class EA 3017 Helsingor to Copenhagen 12th Aug 94 C19606 Humlebaek DSB Class EA 3010 Copenhagen to Helsingor 12th Aug 94 C19607 Norre Aby IC3 dmu 5012 to Copenhagen 16th Aug 94 C19610 Middlefart Lillabelt bridge DSB dmu 4273 westbound 16th Aug 94 C19617 Vejle DSB dmu 17th Aug 94 C19628 David

Now for this evening's photos. This time we are not far from Edinburgh. Millerhill 26002 le to pick up coal train 21st Aug 86 C7916 Millerhill 37185 dolofines after running round heading north 21st Aug 86 C7923 Haymarket 27041 and breakdown coach 11th Oct 86 C8035 Leith 08761 11th Aug 87 C8934 Leith Class 08 24th April 92 C16792 David

A few photos from Steamtown at Carnforth in the 1970sand 80s for the first set today. Steamtown Bagnall 0-6-0 fireless No6 & No7 5th June 76 C2755 Steamtown Hunslet 0-6-0ST 5th June 76 C2756 Steamtown LMS Class 5 5th June 76 C2754 Steamtown LNER A4 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley 25th March 78 C3749 Steamtown Bassett Lowke 15 inch gauge Princess Elizabeth 8th August 87 C8806 Steamtown ex Old Oak Common steam crane ADRR95212 8th August 87 C8825 David

Today we are travelling on a train of the RhB heading north from Preda towards Filisur with views taken from the carriage windows. The windows dropped right down and the train wasn't busy so no one complained about draughts. near Preda RhB Ge6/6 St Moritz to Chur 7th Aug 88 C10355 near Zuondra tunnel 7th Aug 88 C10356 near Toua tunnel 7th Aug 88 C10357 Muot crossing place 7th Aug 88 C10364 Bergün 7th Aug 88 C10370 near Bergünerstein tunnel 7th Aug 88 C10373 David

A few industrial photos today taken at Blyth Bates colliery. Also two taken on the branch. The final one, with a Class 56, was taken after the pit was closed and the coal elevators were then used to export opencast coal for a few years before the branch was closed. In recent weeks much of the branch cutting has been filled in prior to houses being built. Blyth Bates was on the the south side of the River Blyth, opposite the power stations. Blyth Bates NCB Barclay 0-6-0DS Jan 83 C5912 The staithes in the background are the West staithes, on the other side of the river. Blyth Bates NCB Barclay 0-6-0DS Jan 83 C5913 Blyth Bates coal loader, west staithes to right Jan 83 C5931 Blyth Bates NCB ex BR D3088 2100526 2nd Feb 85 C6693 Isabella sidings 37199 and NCB shunter collecting wagons on closure 6th April 85 C6763 Blyth Bates branch 56127 export coal 8th April 91 C15772 David

I've just looked at some more of my photos (mainly ones) not yet on here. There is one which looks as though it may not have "1" on the relevant doors. But I've also noticed that when the 1st class part of the coach is further away in the photo the "1" doesn't show up well, so they may be there but not visible on the scan. David

John, Southern photos will keep on appearing from time to time, I've just been looking through a batch to use at some future date. David

I've just put three somewhat unusual photos of a Furka Oberalp loco working on the RhB in another thread, so I thought I'd ad them here. In 1992 the RhB were short of motive power and hired a loco from the FO. I was fortunate enough to see it on two days while I was in the area in July 1992. I say fortunate as I had no idea it was there. Ilanz RhB FO HGe4/4 37 hired to RhB eastbound freight 27th July 92 C17060 Untervaz RhB FO HGe4/4 37 hired t RhB freight Chur to Landquart 30th July 92 C17193 Landquart RhB FO HGe4/4 37 on hire to RhB and RhB Ge24 222 30th July 92 C17203 David

On the Rhätische Bahn in Switzerland, still in 1988, for this evening. Most of the photos were taken at Samedan, one is from the train on the journey there. near Bergün 7th Aug 88 C10322 Samedan ABe4/4 501 and RhB BDt 1721 7th Aug 88 C10326 Samedan RhB Ge4/4ii 619 Chur to St Moritz 7th Aug 88 C10328 Samedan RhB Ge6/6 414 7th Aug 88 C10330 Samedan view towards St Moritz 7th Aug 88 C10337 SamedanRhB Ge3/3 214 shunting 7th Aug 88 C10340 David

Some photos at Bax Crossing and Graveney today, so we must be in Kent on the Southern Region. As usual with my Southern photos the headcodes may be right! Bax Crossing MLV lass 419 68001 Dover to Victoria 23rd April 77 C3308 Bax Crossing Class411 7166 up ex pass May 77 C3333 Bax Crossing Class 414 6147 down pass May 77 C3334 Graveney MLV Class 419 68009 up pass Feb 77 C3208 Graveney Class 423 up ex pass going away Dec 78 C3646 David

It is supposed to be painted in the standard brown the SBB used before they painted electrics green, but I don't know a match for it. I suspect (in fact I am pretty sure) that the colour balance in the photo is tending toward the magenta. I wasn't able to rebalance it before I posted it as I then got all the other colours wrong. I also think the paint on the loco had faded over the years it had been there. I think the one in the photo below is a more accurate colour rendering, there is certainly less colour cast. It also shows the difference in the appearance of the colour in sunlight and shade. You can also see it is not the colour the shunting locos were painted in 1988! Arth Goldau Ae3/6ii 10439 29th July 88 C9719 Edit: Post 31 on this thread may help: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/33463-questions-of-swiss-colour-and-french-numbers/page-2 Also this link to Phoenix Precision who say they have a few tins of various colours available: http://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/cherry-paints/sale-items/european-colours.html and: http://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/cherry-paints/sale-items/european-colours/rhymney-railway-coach-wagon-pack-10.html Second edit. One thing I learned from photographing a lot of Swiss locos - the colours vary, they also patch paint which highlights just how much colours fade/weather. You don't see it much on my photos of brown SBB locos as they are preserved ones, but the green ones varied a lot. So do some of the red ones if you look closely at where paint has been touched up. David