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Good luck Great Northern. It must be a heart breaking task, but much better the way you are doing it than simply getting a dealer in or ebay. At least this way some of Daves models will live on with people that can appreciate them . Hats off to you!

So 7841 in LMS post 1927 freight livery, will simply be black with LMS on the tanks? Sorry not too up on LMS liveries

Just wondering , was there any indication of the livery the LMS one will have? I know it says LMS black, but does this mean with large numerals on tank side and LMS on Cab or LMS on tanks and number on cab? Might be a nice running mate for the Lanky tank in red. Depends on price, though, as I don't really require either. Thinking could have a nice wee LMS layout though.

Fairenoughski. Was only replying to New Haven Neils, it seemed to me , entirely sensible suggestion , re Caley Blue in post 49, which was similar to comments on 36,37,39,41 and 43. If we don't make such suggestions, how will Bachmann ever get feedback

I think they fail Bachmanns geography test! However the SE&CR C Class was fairly limited geographically and the second batch is sold out. A blue engine would be something different!

The Caley 812 0-6-0 in Blue would be a beautiful model. And they could do it in LMS Black and late and early BR too. It's a no brainer!

Interesting. Perplexed over their timing announcements

What about just doing 1000 second class Mk 3 s. I'm sure we could then add the yellow stripe for either full first or composite. I'm not bothered about the interiors.

Is that 20% off retail price that's just gone up 20% (and actually more in a great deal of cases)?

The disturbing thing is it's probably outside Hornbys control but a factor of manufacturing capacity. That's why they are getting this model in dribs and drabs. I feel sure if they could, they would get the lot in one go, relieving cash flow pressures and declaring the sale

Actually I think you would be quite surprised at how cheap it is to ship a container from China . I shipped from Shenzhen, but I don't think there will be a dramatic difference from elsewhere in China. Assuming the container is full then literally it will be pennies on the cost of a model.

Nice touch, having Tetleys in the masthead. A nice reminder of a great layout

Yep good plan, so you can still have embankment behind

Oh God! This is very bad news and a shock. Dave's posts were always upbeat. I'm so sorry. Condolences to family and Rest in Peace Dave. So sad

I dunno. Its not my territory but it is a bit different. Could be tempted to a GWR green one when it arrives. I think in retrospect Kernow may be happier going for the saddle tank version rather than the Pannier , as it is something different. Just wish there was a McKernow up here in Scotland to get Dave into some Scottish locos , 812 Caley, D34 Glen, Jones Goods, Gordon Highlander.........

Thanks Richard . Another great update told in a very easy manner. Great layout and some really smooth running trains. Must get some Goo Gone. Looking forward to seeing what you going to do with the Woodland Scenics stuff. Just one query on the river scene. Where does the river go? It goes under the bridge, but the other side seems to have your newly constructed embankment.

I always thought you had a contract at the point of offer and acceptance , not when you pay for it as Bernard is implying. So in this case the offer is Hattons advert or website and acceptance is the modeller placing an order. I haven't ordered anything from Hattons for a while having cut back dramatically because I'm at saturation point, so I'm not sure what their terms and conditions are. But you will have accepted them at the point you place order. I sympathise with Hattons, and all other model shops, particularly the single trader. From what I see on threads on here, and a very disciplined and informative discussion over on MREmag, it looks like the response of many of us will be to cut back purchases to what we really need rather than like to have. And of course none of us really need model railways , so in the most extreme case this could be zero. So as a model shop you have to estimate demand , but in some cases Bachmann don't appear to have set the price. If its reasonable or low you are going to get inundated, if its too high , you may have stock on shelves. And as we are all cutting back, you will have less business. Add to this Hornbys reduction in retail margin and you really have a poisonous set of circumstances out there. So I understand Hattons need to change terms and conditions to cope with this. However if you have already ordered , and indeed were encouraged to do so by the offer of maintaining price as Mark (Reevesthecat in post403)suggests then they should honour that price. If theyve subsequently lost out then thats their issue, or one they should be taking up with their supplier, who presumably changed price on them. You have to make decisions in business. This is simply one of them. No one ever seems to take responsibility any more. Its always down to a set of circumstances or someone elses fault!

I enjoy Robs pics. Maybe a compromise is just to mark on pic as a watermark that the image is digitally altered? Would that not solve the issue. Knowing it's digitally altered those that are not interested can move on, those who are can pause and admire. A well trotted out phrase, but true, it's a broad church. Everyone should be encouraged to participate using whatever medium they can, and often excel at.

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

I think there can be very few modellers (using term very widely as I run only rtr) that would not miss Hornby. They are part of the UK modelling scene and it would definitley be poorer without them. I wasn't carping at Hornby in previous post, but was pointing out that clearly this constant rescheduling meant that things were not yet resolved and I would suspect its at the factory rather than in shipping. While they cannot be fully in charge of their supply chain because they subcontract out manufacturing to China, it is to be hoped they can get better control, most companies have.Lets wish them luck with that. I bring in containers from China and they are never two months late, I have a week due date which sometimes is missed,but max only by a week. It is possible to source goods from China and know within 2 weeks when it will arrive, so this concept of a container getting loaded onto a Containership then entering a void is a bit spurious.

Yes I have to say your instructional youtube videos are very good Richard, particularly the one on ballasting. But I also just love watching the trains go by on your videos, particularly the HST

Further the constant rescheduling, now September, just underlines that Hornby are not yet in control of their supply chain.

I trotted out my Hornby 1990s Class 90 yesterday for a spin round the layout. It actually looked very toy like ( as there is no OHLE on my layout thats exactly what it is)! Sure the Bachmann 90 will be light years ahead. Will be fascinating to find out how they are going to deal with the front fairing and coupling issue . The only down side is probably the cost and as its not my core interest and I don't want to install OHLE probably I'll give it a miss.

Well from the catalogue it looks like the artwork has been changed and the coaches now have simpler lining. No black

Given the price of the set I would think it's the simplified version that will be in set. It is difficult to tell but I think the catalogue illustration of the set shows the simplified version in the set and also the main range coaches look to be simply repeats of those previously available