RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2017 I see it's in pre 1904 livery, except for the white painted handrails, that are some futuristic idea. If Didcot can't get it right, there's no hope for Oxford!! I'm not exactly sure if that was simply a sort of 'holding situation' to conserve the fabric of what was there rather than any sort of attempt towards a proper restoration to museum standard? Wagons generally (and perhaps not surprisingly?) seem to lie a long way down the GWS's list of restoration priorities and resources and they nowadays seem to be paying a lot more attention to getting things to properly reflect the condition of a vehicle at a particular time in its life. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Petard somewhat hoisted. Having said I'd never seen an lamphatch open in service, today I noticed this delightful and summery view of an engineering train at Tenby, from the John Turner collection: https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/22317447251/ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Petard somewhat hoisted. Having said I'd never seen an lamphatch open in service, today I noticed this delightful and summery view of an engineering train at Tenby, from the John Turner collection: https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/22317447251/ Probably due the novelty of a day without rain in West Wales! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 For those members who are going to modify the "window" back to a door Wills sheet SSMP220 Tongue & Groove boarding is a close match to the planking on the van. Or use the door from a scrap Airfix. That took all of 12 minutes to sort, less time than it takes to read all the comments on here. £13.00 BARGAIN! Mike Wiltshire 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) You you need to lower the side windows by one plank too, and add a glazing bar . Edited November 21, 2017 by BG John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Did any of these brake vans get sold to industry? If so are there any photos kicking about? Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You you need to lower the side windows by one plank too, and add a glazing bar . I do not think I will bother. The last thing I am looking for when it is running in a train is a glazing bar, if I am looking at the brake van at all. Mike Wiltshire 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2017 Did any of these brake vans get sold to industry? If so are there any photos kicking about? Regards I don't know about the AA1, but Littleton Colliery had an AA3 which I believe is now at the Chasewater Railway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I do not think I will bother. The last thing I am looking for when it is running in a train is a glazing bar, if I am looking at the brake van at all. Mike Wiltshire Oh go on. I want to see how someone does it before my AA3s arrive . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted November 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2017 I don't know about the AA1, but Littleton Colliery had an AA3 which I believe is now at the Chasewater Railway Looking very nice too. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 You you need to lower the side windows by one plank too, and add a glazing bar . From the Chasewater picture it looks like the top of the window needs to be raised by half a plank and the bottom lowered by half a plank. So, is the planking on the Oxford model too wide or has the Chasewater van had its ends re-timbered with narrower planks? The Chasewater van has windows 4 planks high and those on the Oxford are already 5 planks high and would end up 6 planks high if altered. Maybe it would be simpler to scratch build! (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The entire cabin of the Chasewater AA3 has been completely rebuilt, with narrower planks. The only original things on it are probably the solebar and bits of the running gear. It's a minor miracle Oxford didn't discover it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Even though these vans are advertised as different types, at the end of the day if you want one for your particular era it is going to need modifying anyway. Is it not? Given all the changes that have happened to them, much like a loco. It would be best to get a pic and model are particular van! Khris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2017 The entire cabin of the Chasewater AA3 has been completely rebuilt, with narrower planks. The only original things on it are probably the solebar and bits of the running gear. It's a minor miracle Oxford didn't discover it. If they had they might have got it right as they only seem to make an approximation towards what is available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Even though these vans are advertised as different types, at the end of the day if you want one for your particular era it is going to need modifying anyway. Is it not? Given all the changes that have happened to them, much like a loco. It would be best to get a pic and model are particular van! Khris You are bringing logic into it now Khris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 This might be where the ranch window came from I noticed it on the last RM Web tour this year and this photo confirms it I wonder who signed it off. https://www.flickr.com/photos/svr_enthusiast/36632994895/ I hold no responsibility for Oxford's errors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted November 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2017 Even though these vans are advertised as different types, at the end of the day if you want one for your particular era it is going to need modifying anyway. Is it not? Given all the changes that have happened to them, much like a loco. It would be best to get a pic and model are particular van! Khris A period photo not one of a van at a Heritage site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Even though these vans are advertised as different types, at the end of the day if you want one for your particular era it is going to need modifying anyway. Is it not? Given all the changes that have happened to them, much like a loco. It would be best to get a pic and model are particular van! Khris If the ends were modelled as built, there wouldn't be a problem, as it would be more straightforward to adapt them to changes over the years. Oxford producing a fantasy version is the problem, unless you're modelling the GWR in a parallel universe! Don't forget that the current version is only suitable for the first decade or two of the life of the AA1s, because of the fully planked sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 You you need to lower the side windows by one plank too, and add a glazing bar . Not easy to get a good finish as it’s a bit tight in there to sand things smooth once filled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Some mods and a repaint to a darker grey 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Some mods and a repaint to a darker grey Looking good lofty. I still think my two are going to be leaving me but I want to see if Oxford have the post-36 versions on display at Warley first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) Finished reworking of the AA1 Centre hangers changed , verandah sanding gear changed, rear "bungalow window" removed and hatch cover put in and rear windows with a glazing bar added. Repainted dark grey and 25" GW lettering replacing incorrect 16" Semi silk purse out of a sows ear? Edited November 23, 2017 by lofty1966 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted November 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2017 That's a lot better. May I respectfully suggest that the glazing bars are a bit overscale? Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2017 It looks a lot better, the colour alone makes the world of difference. When the post war version comes out (along with the 2 axle version) both will certainly be going through the works and getting a full repaint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) That's a lot better. May I respectfully suggest that the glazing bars are a bit overscale? Ian. I know. Only had some 40 thou micro strip to hand so thats what went in. Edited November 23, 2017 by lofty1966 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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