Garethp8873 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 It looks a lot better, the colour alone makes the world of difference. When the post war version comes out (along with the 2 axle version) both will certainly be going through the works and getting a full repaint. I'll be doing exactly the same as yourself as previous experience with has shown with Oxford's LNER Cattle wagons, giving them a repaint and lettering improves the look a lot. On a separate note, I don't think things are going to be all smooth sailing at the Oxford stand at Warley this weekend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I'll be doing exactly the same as yourself as previous experience with has shown with Oxford's LNER Cattle wagons, giving them a repaint and lettering improves the look a lot. On a separate note, I don't think things are going to be all smooth sailing at the Oxford stand at Warley this weekend... They definitely need a kick in the pants with regard to R&D. So much detail is put in but whats the point if they're glaringly wrong in basic stuff ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 Didcot's 56400, which is clearly Oxford's misguided single reference, has had all sorts of mods on it and has been rebuilt at least once since preservation. Just thank your lucky stars we don't have a TV aeriel on the detailed underframe... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just thank your lucky stars we don't have a TV aeriel on the detailed underframe... Are you sure there isn't one on the 4-wheel version? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 Erm didn't you just say in post 181 that Didcot have one - complete with lots of preservation / departmental modifications that Oxford have faithfully coppied This is the 6-wheel AA1 thread. There are a couple of 4-wheel AA3s in preservation. Oxford did not faithfully copy Didcot's 56400. What may have happened, given the presence of the superfluous window, is Oxford copied the Didcot AA3, then in CAD cut and paste an extra set of wheels/axleboxes to the middle to produce their version of an AA1, without any reference to actual diagram drawings or historic photos. That could also explain the J hanger booboo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just thank your lucky stars we don't have a TV aeriel on the detailed underframe... Did this one keep its part handrail until preservation or was it a mod to get back to early condition ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 That particular toad is very definitely an early version. The aerial is for 405 lines. 625 lines came in a lot later. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Did this one keep its part handrail until preservation or was it a mod to get back to early condition ? That handrail is rebuild number 6. The fixing style is not as per the original. Edited November 27, 2017 by Miss Prism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2017 Saw the GW version on Oxford's stand at Warley, then asked the guy when the BR version was to be released, he said January. I'm interested in the OR76TOA003 plated van labelled as "Bordesley Junction", how long did they remain in revenue-earning service on BR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KymN Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Got my GW version today, and am delighted. But there is one problem, and that is with the NEM coupler pockets, which are too short. As a consequence my Kadee replacements change length when direction is reversed. I can fix this but it is very frustrating. A bit like when Bachmann had cranked NEM couplers and insisted that NEM was only for H0. I remember the dismissive comments from Bachmann's marketing well. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) I'm curious as to how the 6 wheeled underframe works. Thinking back, I can't recall a previous 6 wheeled RTR model being any good beneath the solebars. I can forgive the odd discrepancy in a model if the basics are right. I think making adjustments to a RTR model is part of the fun. John Edited November 30, 2017 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted November 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2017 I used to have a small rake of Lima milk tanks that ran fine on level track, and have never had a tender that had any problems. So long as some vertical play is available to the centre axle and it has sufficient side play to cope with your sharpest curve, it should run the same as a 4-wheeler, but the Limas were improved by extra ballast IIRC; it was a long time ago and I have slept since then... Unless of course 'any good beneath the solebars' is some sort of dreadful euphemism! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm@gwr Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think it also depends on the length of the wagon/chassis. We all remember the problems with the Stove R project, and best not to remember the Hornby sausage and fish vans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) I think it also depends on the length of the wagon/chassis. We all remember the problems with the Stove R project, and best not to remember the Hornby sausage and fish vans! Actually I was. I solved the problems with the Dapol Stove R by chucking it and doing the Comet kit. John Edited November 30, 2017 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted December 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2017 best not to remember the Hornby sausage and fish vans! Too late for the warning, I found my old Palethorpes van in a box the other night... Spent a few minutes waggling the middle wheels around, then put it back and continued looking for what I was actually after. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted December 1, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2017 Too late for the warning, I found my old Palethorpes van in a box the other night... Spent a few minutes waggling the middle wheels around, then put it back and continued looking for what I was actually after. I have one of these, which I must get around to fitting: https://www.shapeways.com/product/Y7HNL25Y2/00-gwr-sausage-van-chassis?optionId=59043520 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2017 I have one of these, which I must get around to fitting: https://www.shapeways.com/product/Y7HNL25Y2/00-gwr-sausage-van-chassis?optionId=59043520 Will be interested to hear how that works, I have one of the vans in LMS milk van livery which I have been thinking about rebuilding and repainting as a Palethorpes van Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 1, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2017 I have one of these, which I must get around to fitting: https://www.shapeways.com/product/Y7HNL25Y2/00-gwr-sausage-van-chassis?optionId=59043520 Pity it's Hornby length, not scale length as I need to do a couple for my layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) I rebuilt my Hornby Palethorpes and InsulMilk with scratch underframes. The bodies are fairly accurate for LMS despite being 4mm short. The GWR body isn't right of course. I've seen a cut and shut of the Palethorpes using the Chivers 6 wheel Fish van chassis - wish I'd thought of that. Wish I'd seen that GWR chassis before doing mine, hard work to do the J hangers as I recall. John Edited December 1, 2017 by brossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Just got mine - I think it's quite nice and, dare I say it, a 'cute' piece of rolling stock, especially when posed next to its bigger AA15 cousin from Hornby. Will take a cocktail stick and t-cut to mine and rebrand to small post-1936 GW decals. Might change the allocation of Swindon, but might not. Take the points up-thread about inaccuracies but I will admit to being a little bit uncaring with wagon details - it looks the part! 7.5/10 CoY Edited December 2, 2017 by County of Yorkshire 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Peco do a kit do a 6-wheel Toad in 0 gauge. How accurate is that one anybody....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just got mine - I think it's quite nice and, dare I say it, a 'cute' piece of rolling stock, especially when posed next to its bigger AA15 cousin from Hornby. Will take a cocktail stick and t-cut to mine and rebrand to small post-1936 GW decals. Might change the allocation of Swindon, but might not. Take the points up-thread about inaccuracies but I will admit to being a little bit uncaring with wagon details - it looks the part! 7.5/10 CoY How did you get one, I have one on order with Hatton's, Just checked there site and still saying pre-order?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted December 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2017 How did you get one, I have one on order with Hatton's, Just checked there site and still saying pre-order?. Hereford Model Centre have five in stock: http://herefordmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=369_370_472&products_id=10107 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hereford Model Centre have five in stock: http://herefordmodels.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=369_370_472&products_id=10107 Strange they have them now, Hattons not having any at the moment listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2017 Lord and Butler in Cardiff (I visited yesterday) have good numbers of both 4 and 6 wheelers, but only in 'early' GW livery with no bottom handrail. Peter reckons BR liveried versions will be on hand in January, which seems to tally with what Ox are saying. I am in the market for these or late, small initiialled, GW versions, and this goes for the Hornby AA15 as well. At the price, it is difficult to leave them in the shop; Bachman have mineral wagons that cost more, but I have been good, helped by the handrail issue which means that a van for my early 1950s railway cannot be provided as easily as new transfers and branding! Lord and Butler in Cardiff (I visited yesterday) have good numbers of both 4 and 6 wheelers, but only in 'early' GW livery with no bottom handrail. Peter reckons BR liveried versions will be on hand in January, which seems to tally with what Ox are saying. I am in the market for these or late, small initiialled, GW versions, and this goes for the Hornby AA15 as well. At the price, it is difficult to leave them in the shop; Bachman have mineral wagons that cost more, but I have been good, helped by the handrail issue which means that a van for my early 1950s railway cannot be provided as easily as new transfers and branding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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