smg201 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Yes the 144 looked great, really good firm professional model to hold. The attention to detail being scrutinised over the 143/144 really does impress. Especially when it is detailing you miss seeing, but impressed it matters to the Realtrack team. Cannot wait to have my FGW (and Wessex) 143! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Nice to see the 144 and the 143 in the flesh, I assume the 143 was hand painted but the livery was just what i hoped to see The 143s we have are livery Mock-Ups of Provincial & Regional Railways liveries. These have been done to assess customer demand as we are uncertain which way to go with regards too the older liveries, thoughts were a limited batch of Tyne & Wear Yellow/White & Provincial liveries with bus seating (3 X 2). The liveries for the 143s currently planned (but will be 6 months late! sorry but partially our fault for wanting an additional 120 rivits putting on) will be Arriva Trains Wales & First Greal Western, after that is up to YOU, so let us know your thoughts. Edited March 30, 2012 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted March 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2012 My vote is for Provincial. I would definitely buy some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) My vote is for Provincial. I would definitely buy some. #] REALTRACK models: Update on 144 Models: LIVERIES Project still running late but all livery information now finalised with our USA design team, as promised we will update you as and when we have more information. The first four models will be: 144-111: Class 144 Two Car DMU Northern Abelio Night Blue (New Northern Rail livery November 2011 Onwards) with running numbers 144008 Specification: 144008 Northern Night Blue / Serco & Abellio Joint Venture livery with Metro & SY Travel logo's Driving Motor Second DMS (No Toilet) 55812 Driving Motor Second Lavatory DMSL (Toilet) 55835 Night Blue Seats, Missing Overhead warning in front windscreens, Grey internal Handrails, Missing No Smoking stickers in passenger windows, Bicycle Emblems on one car re prototype, Current yellow HSE warning stickers applied. Destinations: YORK - LEEDS 144-112: Class 144 Two Car DMU Northern Night Blue (Old pre Nov 2011 Northern Livery) with running numbers 144007 Specification: 144007 Northern Night Blue livery with Metro & SY Travel logo's Driving Motor Second DMS (No Toilet) 55807 Driving Motor Second Lavatory DMSL (Toilet) 55830 Metro Red Seats, Overhead stickers in front windscreens, Yellow internal Handrails, No Smoking stickers fitted to all passenger windows, Wheel Chair emblems applied on both cars, Current yellow HSE warning stickers applied. Destinations: YORK - SHEFFIELD 144-113: Class 144 Two Car DMU Northern Red & Silver 'Waves livery' (Ex Metro Livery) with running numbers 144003 Specification: 144003 West Yorkshire 'METRO' Red & Silver livery. NORTHERN Branding Driving Motor Second DMS (No Toilet) 55803 Driving Motor Second Lavatory DMSL (Toilet) 55826 Metro Red Seats, Overhead stickers in front windscreens, Yellow internal Handrails, No Smoking stickers fitted to all passenger windows, Old style Wheel Chair emblems applied on both cars, Old White HSE warning stickers applied, Branded with early NORTHERN logo Destinations: LINCOLN - SHEFFIELD 144-114: Class 144 Two Car DMU Arriva Trains Northern Red & Silver West Yorkshire Metro 'Waves' Livery with running numbers 144009 Specification: 144009 West Yorkshire 'METRO' Red & Silver livery. ARRIVA Branding Driving Motor Second DMS (No Toilet) 55809 Driving Motor Second Lavatory DMSL (Toilet) 55832 Metro Red Seats, Overhead stickers in front windscreens, Yellow internal Handrails, No Smoking stickers fitted to all passenger windows, Old style Wheel Chair emblems applied on both cars, Old White HSE warning stickers applied, Branded with early ARRIVA TRAINS NORTHERN logo Destinations: LEEDS - MANCHESTER VICTORIA We are working on the 143 Liveries as we speak. Charlie Edited March 31, 2012 by charliepetty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) 21-pin appears to be popular with modellers who wish to have max control of lighting features. So if you are equipping your model with interior lights, and anything more than just reversible head-and-tail lights, I'd suggest 21-pin will enable your product to achieve max realism. I seem to read on here that 21-pin decoders are not in bountiful supply, however, and that an alternative multiple-socket solution is in the wings which may make 21-pin obsolete. Not helpful, perhaps. There's only one 21 pin decoder around for under £20. Adaptors don't always let you get the body back on . 8 pin socket please (will be buying a 144 when it comes out in the W.Yorks PTE red/ white livery) Apologies - I seem to have replied to something well up the thread and itmay all be sorted by now. The samples on show at Ally Pally looked good Edited March 31, 2012 by Ravenser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 looking forward to both metro versions the northern ones are just a bit too current for me david Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 The 143s we have are livery Mock-Ups of Provincial & Regional Railways liveries. These have been done to assess customer demand as we are uncertain which way to go with regards too the older liveries, thoughts were a limited batch of Tyne & Wear Yellow/White & Provincial liveries with bus seating (3 X 2). The liveries for the 143s currently planned (but will be 6 months late! sorry but partially our fault for wanting an additional 120 rivits putting on) will be Arriva Trains Wales & First Greal Western, after that is up to YOU, so let us know your thoughts. Definetly a vote for a provincial livery from me, Blue or Orange! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 144-111: Class 144 Two Car DMU Northern Abelio Night Blue (New Northern Rail livery November 2011 Onwards) with running numbers 144008 Specification: 144008 Northern Night Blue / Serco & Abellio Joint Venture livery with Metro & SY Travel logo's Driving Motor Second DMS (No Toilet) 55812 Driving Motor Second Lavatory DMSL (Toilet) 55835 Night Blue Seats, Missing Overhead warning in front windscreens, Grey internal Handrails, Missing No Smoking stickers in passenger windows, Bicycle Emblems on one car re prototype, Current yellow HSE warning stickers applied. Destinations: YORK - LEEDS Think I'll be getting one of these! Minor point - it's not usual to see a Pacer doing York-Leeds - that route is almost always 158s, usually the York-Blackpool North services. The Harrogate Loop services are announced and on the screens as York-Burley Park (to discourage people from using them to get to Leeds, as it takes over twice as long as the main route, and the trains are usually full at peak times as it is). I don't think I've ever actually checked to see what the destination boards on the Pacers usually display when on the loop, but I will do in the next few days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Fisher Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Loving the original provincial 143? in the bright blue on display today at York...very nice indeed Ian Edited April 8, 2012 by Ian Fisher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy Bouncy Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) Think I'll be getting one of these! Minor point - it's not usual to see a Pacer doing York-Leeds - that route is almost always 158s, usually the York-Blackpool North services. The Harrogate Loop services are announced and on the screens as York-Burley Park (to discourage people from using them to get to Leeds, as it takes over twice as long as the main route, and the trains are usually full at peak times as it is). I don't think I've ever actually checked to see what the destination boards on the Pacers usually display when on the loop, but I will do in the next few days! Burley Park (and similary Poppleton) isn't on the Northern destination blinds. On Harrogate loop services they do display "Leeds - York" or "Harrogate" at both ends, the latter being less common. Edit - A few photos too https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/NorthernRailClass144#5639904165827078130 https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/NorthernRailClass144#5697234530041837922 https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/NorthernRailClass144#5693545544737356738 https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/NorthernRailClass144#5593683612089051858 Edited April 8, 2012 by Bouncy Bouncy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted April 8, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 8, 2012 You are quite correct, Mr. B B; 'Burley Park' and 'Poppleton' are not included on the destination blinds of Northern units, but are used on station displays and announcements to describe Harrogate line services to avoid confusion with York-Leeds via Garforth, which is much quicker. To that end, as a Guard I used to put 'Harrogate' on the rear of my trains when leaving York or Leeds on Harrogate line services, and changed it to read 'Leeds' or 'York' as appropriate at the earliest opportunity after departure. If not, especially from York, I invariably had some poor unuspecting passenger ask me when we would get to Leeds (usually around Starbeck or so)! My driver would normally have put the 'correct' destination on the front and as he couldn't easily change it en route, and the front of the train wasn't so often seen by passengers boarding at the termini anyway. There are a few regular York-Leeds via Garforth workings for Pacers, but in the minority - one being 0748 York-Leeds, which should have a 153 + 144 combination. Otherwise, as mentioned, it's mostly 158s on Blackpool services. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Enjoyed the chat and discussion over the possibilites with the class 143/144 and future project. Traveled to York with the expressed interest of seeing this model during its developments and was very pleased with the results. Can't wait for them to be made! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Enjoyed the chat and discussion over the possibilites with the class 143/144 and future project. Traveled to York with the expressed interest of seeing this model during its developments and was very pleased with the results. Can't wait for them to be made! Thanks for that! The interest over the weekend in leading order was: Northern, Regional Railways then Provincial. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg201 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Hi How are the FGW/Wessex 143s coming on? Looking forward to owning one, or two soon Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Nevermind that.... Any luck with 143Bond as you mentioned at York? Surely that will sell just for the novelty.... Im ordering one of that one now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Nevermind that.... Any luck with 143Bond as you mentioned at York? Surely that will sell just for the novelty.... Im ordering one of that one now! We need photos of 143007 with the 007Bond logo replacing the number 7. ANYONE got one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Have fun with licensing that one. Almost worse than getting Olympic licensing. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsyde Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Hey Charlie, just out of interest when do you expect the 2nd sample to arrive? Will you post pics of the updates? Cheers Craig 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg201 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Well the website has been updated, looking very flash! Sadly the 143 is now £110 Still i cannot wait for these...any news or photos of new samples would be great to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hey Charlie, just out of interest when do you expect the 2nd sample to arrive? Will you post pics of the updates? Cheers Craig Should be an unpainted (Fully Rivited) sample for our close inspection, The promise is: 'soon' Which in our experience is longer than a Chinese shortly! Charlie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 They work according to what my very good Chinese friend refers to as 'Asian Time"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Rossington Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'd love to see a regional railways one! Is there still one planned Charlie? Cheers Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Well the website has been updated, looking very flash! Sadly the 143 is now £110 Still i cannot wait for these...any news or photos of new samples would be great to see. All orders placed before 01/08/12 will get them at £100.00 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) I'd love to see a regional railways one! Is there still one planned Charlie? Cheers Rob The order of introduction will be: 144: 2 X Northern 2 X Metro (Arriva & Northern) 1 X Northern (Named) + Updated ariel. 2 X WYPTE Red/Cream (Regional & Arriva) 2 X Regional Railways 143: 2 X Arriva Trains Wales 2 X First GW 2 X Visit Bristol 2 X Valley Lines 2 X Regional Railways 2 X Tyne & Wear PTE 2 X Provincial 2 X Provincial (Bathgate-Edinburgh) That's the plan, All this relies on someone buying the first models! No dates yet. Edited July 14, 2012 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Sorry Charlie have I read this right? ALL the 144's are coming out before the 143's? If so I need to hunt down the RR one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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