Andrew P Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Excellent work Mark. were they Black inside, I haven't found any decent pics yet to weather mine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Excellent work Mark. were they Black inside, I haven't found any decent pics yet to weather mine? They were black (and rust) inside, apart from the first one or two) - Paul Bartlett's site has lots of photos. The detachable 'wooden' framing is of the style used for wagons carrying two rows of wire coil; as delivered, the wagons only had transverse ones. These tended to fall apart pretty quickly. Edited January 23, 2015 by Fat Controller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm sure one of those wagons is the wrong way up.... No, that's where P4 stock spends most of it's time Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted January 27, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2015 Nearly there; couplings next, then possibly a few more additional brake gear bits, but near enough done. Current state of the interior: While the paints were out, a bit of shading on the sides of the OBA, needs to be a bit darker to represent the grime that builds up around the door catches. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm sorry Mark but there's features on that wagon that spoil the entire layout for me. ;-p Disgusted of NW Leicestershire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2015 Bought a few bits for the layout at Stafford show today: Some time ago now I added some foamboard between the front of the layout and the trackbed. While track construction was on going this gave a nice flat surface to place tools and prevented things falling through onto the floor! Apologies for the blurry photo: Originally I envisaged a cutting here, sloping down to track level, but having mocked this up it doesn't look right. So the obvious thing seems to be to go the opposite way and form an embankment sloping away from the trackbed. A couple of photos of what I'm hoping to achieve: Feeling inspired by my trip to Stafford I've started cutting up polystyrene to form the slope. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 First fix of the green stuff... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Bought a few bits for the layout at Stafford show today: 16418198342_13ccb86119_k.jpg Some time ago now I added some foamboard between the front of the layout and the trackbed. While track construction was on going this gave a nice flat surface to place tools and prevented things falling through onto the floor! Apologies for the blurry photo: 16393204636_720e81e7b0_o.jpg Originally I envisaged a cutting here, sloping down to track level, but having mocked this up it doesn't look right. So the obvious thing seems to be to go the opposite way and form an embankment sloping away from the trackbed. A couple of photos of what I'm hoping to achieve: 16415880882_5efd983265_o.jpg 16415895992_1ea66acbf8_o.jpg Feeling inspired by my trip to Stafford I've started cutting up polystyrene to form the slope. Hi Mark, the Track on the embankment will be far better for some nice moody low level shots as well, as here on my Loch Leven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) Bought a few bits for the layout at Stafford show today: 16418198342_13ccb86119_k.jpg Some time ago now I added some foamboard between the front of the layout and the trackbed. While track construction was on going this gave a nice flat surface to place tools and prevented things falling through onto the floor! Apologies for the blurry photo: 16393204636_720e81e7b0_o.jpg Originally I envisaged a cutting here, sloping down to track level, but having mocked this up it doesn't look right. So the obvious thing seems to be to go the opposite way and form an embankment sloping away from the trackbed. A couple of photos of what I'm hoping to achieve: 16415880882_5efd983265_o.jpg 16415895992_1ea66acbf8_o.jpg Feeling inspired by my trip to Stafford I've started cutting up polystyrene to form the slope. Hi Mark, the Track on the embankment will be far better for some nice moody low level shots as well, as here on my Loch Leven. BTW didn't see you at the weekend. Edited February 2, 2015 by Andrew P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 That's a very good point Andy, it's something I had a bit of a problem with on Foundry Lane (over half of which was set between a cutting and a retaining wall), but here there should be a few more photo opportunities - the grass needs cutting though. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2015 Very little to report this week, except that I've mocked up a small section of retaining wall at the left hand end of the layout: Which should enable more of those low angle views along the layout: 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Much better Mark, really nice touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Yep, those angles work for me too. Makes the viewer feel like they are trackside, not in a helicopter. Edited February 9, 2015 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Top work here!!! :locomotive: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2015 Yep, those angles work for me too. Makes the viewer feel like they are trackside, not in a helicopter. That's just the effect I'm hoping for, the plan is that the boards will be set fairly high, so that it is close to eye level. I know this can be a bit controversial, but it works for me as both an operator and a viewer. Anyway, as I've said before, I tend to jump around from project to project depending on how the mood takes me. Today, I've got tired of seeing the bog cart 101 in the photos of the layout and decided to have a look at locos. I have a Railfreight Class 20 which was in need of converting and renumbering as 20108, possibly with snow ploughs at the number 2 end as seen here: 20108 . Bescot Yard . Monday 24th-November-1986 . by AndrewHA's, on Flickr As well as sitting listening to the Legomanbiffo sound chip on YouTube, I've made a start on re-gauging. The wheels themselves were quite straightforward, the pin points filed down on some Black Beetle 14mm disc wheels (from Branchlines), one wheel removed, then the Bachmann gear and bearings transferred over before refitting the wheel and setting the back to back. The bogie frames (or at least the brake linkages) needed thinning down to give sufficient clearance. Need to order a chip and get some transfers ordered from Fox too. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 14, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2015 The Class 20 started out as 20090, however (as far as I've been able to tell) this particular one didn't run with headcode discs when in Railfreight livery. The way in which Bachmann's discs fit to the model would mean that there are four square holes in each nose which would need filling. While this would be far from impossible, I decided that renumbering would be an easier option. I used my trusted 1988 Platform 5 to identify which locos were in Railfreight livery, then searched Flickr for photos of each to see which had headcode discs, with preference to locos which would be likely to be seen in the Midlands. I liked the look of 20059; but my base model has the deeper cabside windows of a loco which had a tablet catcher recess, so that prompted me to settle on 20108. 20108 was allocated to Bescot in 1986/7, moving to Toton during '87, initially in the FHNG General Coal pool, then the FEND Notts Coal Class 20 pool. Withdrawal came in September '91, which was about the time I stopped 'spotting to follow "other interests". With a loco identified differences to the factory applied livery on 20090 (i.e. my to do list) are as follows: Overhead line warning symbols positioned higher on cab front and bonnet sides Tread/kick plate below cab doors painted black Position of numbers and Railfreight logos; data panel (blue background?) below the logos Bachmann's buffers aren't too clever Snowploughs fitted in the Nov '86 photo linked above and also in this undated shot, but removed by Feb '87 as seen here Small sticker above the number - possible depot allocation? The numbers, Railfreight logos and overhead flashes were removed with a drop of meths and a cocktail stick. Replacement transfers arrived during the week ( the usually excellent service from Fox); wheels and bogie frames have had a coat of Humbrol 98 (chocolate). 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Mark, I wasn't going to have a Railfeight 20, now look what you've done, hahha Really nice mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Always a pleasure to read one of your threads Mark! Keep up the quality that we know you for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2015 Before carrying on with the 20, I thought I'd get a VGA which has been on my bench for a few weeks back on its wheels and out of the way. I like these silver coloured vans (and the larger Cargowaggons) I was really looking for one (or maybe a couple) in the original silver/red Speedlink livery, but they seem to be quite hard to come by so I'll make do with this subsector liveried example which I picked up secondhand for a very reasonable price for now. Like the other vans I've done, the Bill Bedford spring units fit nicely between the solebars. I did need to use a bit more packing on this to achieve the correct ride height though. One thing I'm determined to avoid is having a rush to fit couplings to everything in time for the layouts first exhibition (as I ended up doing with the stock for BCB) so the AJs are being fitted at this stage too. Ride height is now slightly high; really needs the last piece of plasticard packing swapping for one of about half its thickness. Also, Fryers Lane gets a little mention in the latest edition of Scalefour News in a preview of layouts attending Scaleforum in September, which will be my first exhibition with this layout - lots to do between now and then! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 BTW Could'nt help noticing you're doing a moonlight Snowdon trek! Don't forget to stop off for a cuppa whilst you're here! And I may show you the local sights too........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Mark, Some great information on how you converted those SPAs. I'll be getting the knives out soon. It's a pity I was sent the wrong W-irons. You don't happen to know what type of axle boxes the SPAs have? I think they're some form of SKF Roller Bearing but the MJT casting doesn't look quite right. http://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt/2256A.php The one listed under the WA9 reference on the S-scale website looks more like it: http://www.s-scale.org.uk/wagon.htm Bit big though! Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted February 16, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ooh, you shouldn't go posting links to S scale stuff; I might get tempted Yes, a real shame you got sent the wrong ones - prompted me to check my stock to check they were all ok! I used the Cambrian springs and axleboxes as a complete unit; on the Bachmann stuff where I've kept the original springs I've used some left over from Chivers MDV kits which are (IMHO) about the closest thing I'm aware of - not sure if they are available separately, but I need some more! For castings, 51L part number BRC022 or 023 from Wizard models might do the trick (trim/file the rivet strips off the sides). Looking through the photos in Paul Bartlett's collection, most seem to have the "inverted hood" pattern axlebox. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 S Scale-Oh dear you too, eh Mark? I already have been tempted and there are some wagons acquired for a small sum sitting on my workbench here in the Snowdonian lair..... :secret: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themagicspanner Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ooh, you shouldn't go posting links to S scale stuff; I might get tempted Yes, a real shame you got sent the wrong ones - prompted me to check my stock to check they were all ok! I used the Cambrian springs and axleboxes as a complete unit; on the Bachmann stuff where I've kept the original springs I've used some left over from Chivers MDV kits which are (IMHO) about the closest thing I'm aware of - not sure if they are available separately, but I need some more! For castings, 51L part number BRC022 or 023 from Wizard models might do the trick (trim/file the rivet strips off the sides). Looking through the photos in Paul Bartlett's collection, most seem to have the "inverted hood" pattern axlebox. Sorry about that... Cheers for the axle box information. My first port of call may well be trying to keep the ones from the FTG wagon. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 FYI, The Chivers Finelines, moulded Hooded Axle boxes are still available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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