LNERGE Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I bet the sidings containing the brake tenders caused some difficulties... There's a footpath right through them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) c2922. Didn't know brake tenders were still in use in 1976 or were those three awaiting disposal. They hung on later than that in a few places, on the WR they were sometimes used on engineering trains of track sections up to about 1980 as none of the WR allocation of ganes, salmons, or sturgeons were vacuum braked, 31159 departs Bristol East Depot with recovered track sections for Taunton Fairwater Pre-assembley Depot, 17/7/79 cheers Edited February 22, 2015 by Rivercider 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy stroud Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Absolutely brilliant 1970s pictures there, oozing with atmosphere! Makes me want to go and run some trains! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Absolutely brilliant 1970s pictures there, oozing with atmosphere! Makes me want to go and run some trains! Likewise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Excellent once again Dave. Is that bridge the remains of the GC? I can't believe how much this location has changed. Were the pair of double track lines just to Newstead and Gedling by then? The big viaduct in the first photo is the GC Bulwell viaduct. The stone bridge remains in photos 2 and 3 are the remains of an old road bridge. Has anyone else noted that all three of the brake tenders have a different profile. The first one has a curve to the lower edge, possibly one with LNER bogies, the middle one has straighter sides but the same curvature to the top, is it an LNER or LMS bogied tender and the last one is slightly taller, has a completely different radius to the top and flat sides, it is possibly has LMS bogies. Had David known the interest in these lumps of metal on wheels, all these years later I am sure he would have taken a photo showing the bogies. Clive, There are many many pictures I wish I'd taken over the years, if only I could go back with a digital camera. At the time I used to ration myself to about 3 films every 2 months. Below is the best enlargement I can get from the original scan of the brake tenders. Brake tenders at Bestwood Park Junction detail from photo C2922 Edited to ad the photo David Edited February 22, 2015 by DaveF 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 In C1575, what's the short blue/grey vehicle behind 4472? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 Hi, Dave. Amazing photo's. Love those of Bulmer's Steam Centre as well as those of Bestwood Park. Such a lot to see in the way of track work at Bestwood Park. A good classic view of two class 20's in C4206. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 In C1575, what's the short blue/grey vehicle behind 4472? Is it the 2nd (water) tender but in a livery I didn't know about! Kev. (Great phots tonight - thanks.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 In C1575, what's the short blue/grey vehicle behind 4472? Is it the 2nd (water) tender but in a livery I didn't know about! It is indeed the second tender for carrying water. As far as I know it had only just been painted in BR coaching stock livery, in an attempt to make it blend in to trains better. When Flying Scotsman left Market Overton for this working it did not have the second tender, it was attached during a layover at the carriage sidings at Nottingham Midland. I assume it had been freshly overhauled and painted, possibly at Derby immediately beforehand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Here are a couple of photos of the newly painted brake tender at Nottingham London Road carriage sidings being attached to Flying Scotsman, along with the Flying Scotsman Enterprises BSK (which would now be known as a "Support coach"). Edit - Dad was not trespassing, he was there with Flying Scotsman as part of his work. Nottingham London Road Carriage sidings 08043 shunting Flying Scotsman's second tender and BSK owned by Flying Scotsman Enterprises March 1974 J3604 Nottingham London Road carriage sidings 4472 Flying Scotsman being coupled to second tender and water pipes connected March 75 J3606 The building in the distance is Nottingham London Road Low Level station. It's always surprising what turns up when I have a good look through Dad's and my photos. David Edited February 22, 2015 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60021 Pen-y-Ghent Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Have a look at this website if you're not familiar with it: http://www.disused-stations.org.ukLots of interesting entries including Nottingham London Road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Geeky question - would that 2nd tender have needed a separate running number? It's not attached to its loco in J3604 above. Might cause a few TOPS headaches? Edited February 23, 2015 by eastwestdivide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Geeky question - would that 2nd tender have needed a separate running number? It's not attached to its loco in J3604 above. Might cause a few TOPS headaches? The tender may have had a TOPS number, but may well have not regularly got reported to TOPS. In the 1970s before the introduction of POIS to monitor coaching stock there were no train lists for passenger trains. If the tender got marshalled in a freight train, and it was not listed on TOPS, the TOPS clerk may well have added an '18 comment card' to show the vehicle in the train, with its tonneage, the guard would then have to manually adjust the trainlist. cheers. Edited February 23, 2015 by Rivercider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Love this shot C2922, just a everyday scene, now gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Excellent photos again David. I particularly like the northward views of Bestwood PRk, with its track layout and signalling. Also a glimpse of Nottingham London Road LL. A station which I have never seen photos of in print and just a couple on the internet. It seems to have avoided the attention of photographers. There are a few of London Road Low Level on my flickr site at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/sets/72157633062108348/ and at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/sets/72157632973221514/ They are also in one of my threads here at: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69274-dave-f-more-photos-added-21-june-from-1947-to-1955ish/ They are harder to find in the thread as they are random posts! David Edited February 23, 2015 by DaveF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 Those who agonise about ballast colours might like to look at Bestwood Park Junction pics C2923 and C4205. These pics are only just over two years apart - but the ballast has changed colour dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I like the photo of Pendennis Castle working wrong line. It shows one headlamp facing forward, presumably showing a red light, and the other lamp reversed. Useful for another topic somewhere on here about lamp colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) A few photos from Swayfield this evening, on Stoke Bank south of Stoke Tunnel. As many of you know both Dad and I lived less than fifteen minutes drive from here for some years so it was frequently visited in all sorts of weather. From time to time on RMWeb I see comments about RTR coaches from different manufacturers or different production batches having colours which do not match very well. Just look at some of these roofs (and the shades of blue). Edit I wonder who will be the first to find the photo in today's set I've accidentally posted before in this thread? The first two slides had faded badly - a characteristic of early Fujichrome. Swayfield Class 31 up bulk grain Sept 70 C359 Swayfield Class 46 190 up ex pass July 72 C0997 Swayfield Class 47 up ex pass Jan 74 C1456 Swayfield Class 55 up ex pass April 74 C1586 Swayfield Class 47 down oil April 74 C1589 David Edited February 23, 2015 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hals1967 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 These pictures are priceless and certainly evoke what I now think was one of the golden ages of rail in our country. Thanks for the memories Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Lovely shots as usual Dave. There's something (for me) very nostalgic about pictures of TOPS-numbered locos with headcodes.... Interesting use of a merry-go-round hopper as a barrier wagon in C1589. Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2015 Usual great stuff, I love this thread. For info, the body of that second 4472 tender in blue/grey was dumped at the Tanfield railway a few years ago - as I now live a little too far away to look I don't know if it's still there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 C0977; the loco is carrying a 1ZXX number. Is this a special? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 Hi, Dave. As always what wonderful photo's of Swayfield. I've a feeling that the photo' that has been posted before is C1586. In C1456, there is indeed a good variation in the coaching stock livery finish and the weathering. Very useful for reference purposes. I hope that you may have some more photo's like that. Finally, in C0997, most of the Mk1's are fitted with the BR1 bogies, which must be 'hunting' badly over the CWR - I should imagine the passengers, if they could be seen, will have green faces! The Commonwealth and B4 bogies solved those problems. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 C0997 - quite likely a special as the only first class on the train is the two compartments in the first vehicle, a BCK... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2015 C0977; the loco is carrying a 1ZXX number. Is this a special? I think it probably is a special. Hi, Dave. As always what wonderful photo's of Swayfield. I've a feeling that the photo' that has been posted before is C1586. In C1456, there is indeed a good variation in the coaching stock livery finish and the weathering. Very useful for reference purposes. I hope that you may have some more photo's like that. Finally, in C0997, most of the Mk1's are fitted with the BR1 bogies, which must be 'hunting' badly over the CWR - I should imagine the passengers, if they could be seen, will have green faces! The Commonwealth and B4 bogies solved those problems. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. It's actually C0977 which is the repeat. There is a photo of a similar train to C1586 earlier, but it's on a different day. David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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