RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2015 My home town, and favourite railway, thanks for posting. PS - Should that not be Crossgate bridge? Yes, it should, no idea why I have the caption wrong - I've only lived in the north east for 35 years! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 C5695 - thoughtful of Edward 1 to plan ahead by building an archway for the railway line. Ha! It should be noted that the arch wasn't the railway's only contribution to the archaeology of Conwy - the LNWR spent quite a bit of money shoring up both the town walls and the castle to prevent lumps of masonry landing on their trains and thus making a positive contribution to the preservation to one of the great medieval monuments in these islands. Lovely pictures Dave, many thanks for posting them. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Remember the Steeple Cab Electric at Ilford? Was it “Dennis”? Thanks, David, yet again - what a resource! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) I have only just discovered this thread, but must say 'THANK YOU', to both you and your dad, for sharing so many excellent, and hugely inspiring photos.A wonderful resource for finding out just what was where, lots of detsils in the backgrounds of the trains especially, and also when you are wondering what you might like to build next on a layout, lots of ideas to work with.Many, many thanks, Jamie Edited February 20, 2015 by Jamiel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Remember the Steeple Cab Electric at Ilford? Was it “Dennis”? Thanks, David, yet again - what a resource! Best, Pete. Was that the one that had originally worked on the Quayside branch in Newcastle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2015 Info on 'Dennis' here : http://www.lner.info/locos/Electric/ef1eb1.shtml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Electrics again this evening, this time 25kV main line ones. The location is Millmeece and Badnall Wharf - you'll all know where that is of course. Photos in the area are often captioned just as Badnall Wharf. For those who don't know it is north of Norton Bridge on the WCML between Stafford and Crewe. There were various military installations in the area, together with a station and sidings. Swynnerton was a shell filling factory, HMS Fledgling (usually known as Millmeece) which was a WRNS training establishment and seven other camps were originally for the ROF personnel but were later used as US Army camps. At one time 18,000 people worked at Swynnerton. 2 links to the ROF factory and its railways: http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/s/swynnerton_royal_ordnance_filling_factory/index.shtml http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/s/swynnerton_royal_ordnance_filling_factory/index2.shtml Now for the photos. Millmeece and Badnall Wharf 86237 Euston to Holyhead June 76_J5330 Millmeece and Badnall Wharf 310 076 pass to Stafford June 76 _J5328 I know the one below is the same train as the one above but notice the difference in the colour - this was apparent on the original slides - Dad was using a 135mm lens which always gave a slight colour cast. So the mesage is - never rely too much on the colour in a photo. Millmeece and Badnall Wharf 310 076 up pass June 76_C2821 Millmeece and Badnall Wharf Class 85 up ex pass June 76_C2822 Millmeece and Badnall Wharf 86232 down XP June 76_C2823 Edited for spelling (as usual). David Edited February 20, 2015 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hi, Dave. Very interesting photo's of Millmeece and Badnall Wharf. An interesting history, which I was not aware of, so thank you for it. The two photo's of the class 310, by your Dad, and then yourself, are very informative about colours in photo's. Your photo' does look much more natural to me than your Dad's, for in his photo', there is a little bit too much blue to my eyes. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes, it should, no idea why I have the caption wrong - I've only lived in the north east for 35 years! David Glad to be of help! SS born and lived there (barring time at sea) for 43 years till we bunked off to Fraggle Rock 13 years ago! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Was that the one that had originally worked on the Quayside branch in Newcastle? Nope. Those two (Quayside and Trafalgar Yard), were ES1s and one is at Shildon (thank Goodness). Phil Edited February 21, 2015 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 21, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2015 Some photos from the Great Eastern this evening, starting at Manningtree and heading north up Bentley Bank. The first three are my photos, taken wile I was living in Essex. Manningtree 47135 Norwich to Liverpool St 28th March 76 C2659 Manningtree south junction Class 105 Harwich to Manningtree Nov 76 C3087 passing Manningtree north junction Class 37 up pass May 75 C 2030 At this time Dad quite often visited Ipswich on business, if he had some free time in the early evening he would go out to take railway photos. Cattawade bridge 47129 Liverpool St to Norwich May 75 J4295 Bentley Bank Class 31 up parcels May 75 J4298 David 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hi, Dave. Love the Great Eastern photo's which you've posted tonight. In C3087, of the class 105 DMU at Manningtree South Junction, in November, 1976, the leading car, a DTCL, has had what appears to be the surround to it's destination indicator removed for whatever reason. In the last photo, J4298, at Bentley Bank with a 31 on a parcels, in May, 1975, there is to be seen a typical collection of parcels stock, including one of the Thompson 6-wheel vans - I forget the correct code for that van! Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 That 105 appears to not be one of the big batch that were originally GE allocated. Around 1964-ish, probably as a result of Beeching cuts around the country, we got further allocations to the Anglia region, drafted in from elsewhere; this looks like one of them. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) That 105 appears to not be one of the big batch that were originally GE allocated. Around 1964-ish, probably as a result of Beeching cuts around the country, we got further allocations to the Anglia region, drafted in from elsewhere; this looks like one of them. Stewart Hi, Stewart. Yes you are quite right, it is one of the 105's from Hull that were transferred in the late 1960's - I believe, rather than about '64 - as a result of those Beeching cuts. You can always tell by the four lamp cab ends and the early type of guards van in the DMBS. Just one window as opposed to two in the batch of units that were built later on. All the best, Market65. PS We lost a lot of the railway in 1965 in the East Riding of Yorkshire - Hull to York via Market Weighton being one example. Edited February 21, 2015 by Market65 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2015 I remember in the early 1960s I think it would be that the sidings at Badnall Wharf were used for storing condemned locos awaiting disposal. It was probably the only time that you could see an L&Y 0-6-0 and a Radstock Sentinel at the same place, other than a scrapyard of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 A few photos from Bulmer's Steam Centre at Hereford to go with your cup of tea this afternoon, plus one taken near Moreton on Lugg. They were all taken on Sunday 7th April 1974, when both Flying Scotsman and Pendennis Castle were involved in a W S M Alpine private charter from Kensington Olympia via Newport, Hereford, Shrewsbury and and Birmingham before returning to Kensington, part diesel hauled and part steam hauled. Mum and Dad had been invited to ride on the train, I decided to go and see it and have a look at the locos kept at Bulmers. Note - This is not the train which ran on 6th April 1974 using the same locomotives running as 1Z75 "The Great Western" from Swansea to Shrewsbury and back. Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre 4079 Pendennis Castle prior to hauling W Mc Alpine special Hereford to Shrewsbury 7th April 1974 C1566 Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre Carnarvon 7th April 1974 C1567 Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre Hunslet Cider Queen and Fowler Woodpecker and 57xx 5786 7th April 1974 C1568 Hereford Bulmers Railway Centre 6000 King George V 7th April 1974 C1569 Hereford Bulmers Railway CentreHereford Bulmers Railway Centre A3 4472 Flying Scotsman 7th April 1974 C1575 Moreton on Lugg north of 4079 Pendennis Castle W McAlpine special Hereford to Shrewsbury running wrong line 7th April 1974 C1572 David 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Time now for a look at Bestwood Park Junction on the Midland Railway line along the Leen Valley, north of Nottingham to Mansfield and beyond. The signal box seen in some of the photos was demolished in 2002 and is now the site of the Moorbridge stop on the Nottingham tram network. Bestwood Park was the junction for Bestwood Colliery. Later the branch to Calverton Colliery was built from another junction just to the north. Today railway line carries the trains from Nottingham to Mansfield and Worksop. Those who know Nottingham will already know of the complex railway geography of the Leen Valley, three companies - the Midland, Great Northern and Great Central all built lines along the Leen Valley, they crossed each other at regular intervals and served the same places and many collieries were served by at least two companies. Some photos show the remains of a stone bridge to the right of the line, this was a road bridge replaced in the 1930s by the one I stood on to take the first three photos. The brick viaduct in the first photo was the Great Central Bulwell viaduct. Bestwood Park Junction MR view south with Bulwell Common viaduct beyond July 76 C2922 Bestwood Park Junction July 76 C2923 Bestwood Park Junction 25258 and ano up coal Oct 78 C4205 Bestwood Park 20172 and ano down empty coal Oct 78 C4206 Bestwood Park 47324 down light engine Oct 78 C4207 Edited to add a missing sentence. David Edited February 22, 2015 by DaveF 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Wonderful Dave - look at all those lovely brake tenders and hoppers! Also great memories of Bulmers - when I was at school we had a club layout - St Johns Railway Circle - that we took to a do there on an occasion earlier than your visit. Its highlight on the inevitable GW BLT was a Brunel fan timber viaduct. Along comes little oik when our back is turned and yanks deck off said bridge. Happy? Not! Cab ride on 6000 partial recompense however Phil Edited February 22, 2015 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 c2922. Didn't know brake tenders were still in use in 1976 or were those three awaiting disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 c2922. Didn't know brake tenders were still in use in 1976 or were those three awaiting disposal. I think they were awaiting disposal. I haven't got any photos of them in use around then or later. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Thanks David, I know I never saw any during my early 80's spotting days although my local spot between Middleton Junction and Castleton did get plenty of unfitted 16t trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 Lot of memories of the later days at Bestwood Park. When I got involved it was hard to imaging what had been there. By then all that was left North of the box was the Calverton Branch and a derelict double track to the old Linby Colliery. Happily by the end of my involvement we had passenger trains to Newstead, the rebuilding of the lines to Kirkby-in-Ashfield under way and the tram line works being planned. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 Excellent once again Dave. Is that bridge the remains of the GC? I can't believe how much this location has changed. Were the pair of double track lines just to Newstead and Gedling by then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2015 Wonderful Dave - look at all those lovely brake tenders and hoppers! Also great memories of Bulmers - when I was at school we had a club layout - St Johns Railway Circle - that we took to a do there on an occasion earlier than your visit. Its highlight on the inevitable GW BLT was a Brunel fan timber viaduct. Along comes little oik when our back is turned and yanks deck off said bridge. Happy? Not! Cab ride on 6000 partial recompense however Phil Has anyone else noted that all three of the brake tenders have a different profile. The first one has a curve to the lower edge, possibly one with LNER bogies, the middle one has straighter sides but the same curvature to the top, is it an LNER or LMS bogied tender and the last one is slightly taller, has a completely different radius to the top and flat sides, it is possibly has LMS bogies. Had David known the interest in these lumps of metal on wheels, all these years later I am sure he would have taken a photo showing the bogies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Has anyone else noted that all three of the brake tenders have a different profile. The first one has a curve to the lower edge, possibly one with LNER bogies, the middle one has straighter sides but the same curvature to the top, is it an LNER or LMS bogied tender and the last one is slightly taller, has a completely different radius to the top and flat sides, it is possibly has LMS bogies. Had David known the interest in these lumps of metal on wheels, all these years later I am sure he would have taken a photo showing the bogies. I believe that the roof profile depends on the coach that donated the parts for the brake tender! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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