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GWR diagram O4 5-plank open with sheet (part 1)


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There is quite a lot to say about this next wagon, so I am splitting the write-up into two parts - this post will look at the wagon itself, and the next post will describe the wagon sheet (sheet being the correct railway term for what in everyday language we might call a tarpaulin).

 

The starting point is the Slaters (ex Coopercraft) kit for a diagram O4 5-plank open. It's a nice kit, with good detail and crisp mouldings. There are some inaccuracies and opportunities for improvement, however, which I will describe as we go along.

 

I started by assembling the body. Because I never trust the floor to be an exact fit, I attached the sides and ends together in pairs (one side with one end) first, then assembled these around the floor. Any gaps can be taken up with some plastikard reinforcement, as seen in the picture. Since the inside won't be seen, I also added a stretcher across the middle of the body to stop the sides bowing inwards:

 

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I realised after assembly I had made a mistake. The corners are mitred but with a slight ‘notch’ at the extreme corner, so the sides/ends fit with one part overlapping the other. I made the sides overlap the ends, so the length of the side moulding determined the overall length, and the width got very slightly wider. this was a mistake, as the overall dimensions would be more accurate if the corners were overlapped the other way. My wagon is therefore very slightly too wide, and too short, but only by less than a millimetre.

 

The kit comes with an 'underframe' moulding, which spaces the solebars apart. I didn't use this, partly because it gets in the way of brake gear, etc., and also because I don't quite trust these things to get the solebar spacing correct. As it turns out, the solebar spacing is a more complex than one might think...

 

The first issue is that the bottom flange of the sole bar in the kit is too wide. I decided the most important thing from a visual appearance point of view was getting the outside edge of the sole bar bottom flange in the right relationship with the bottom corner of the body:

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To work out how far apart to place the solebars, the relevant dimensions are:

  • Prototype width over body: 7’6” = 52.5mm
  • Prototype width over solebars, including flanges: 6’9” = 47.3mm
  • Kit thickness of solebars, including the flanges: 4.0mm

Therefore the distance between the solebars on the model needs to be 47.3 - 4 - 4 = 39.3mm. I made spacers this length out of 200 x 80 thou strip, to assemble the solebars at the correct distance.

 

Before assembling, though, I made some preparations for the brake-gear. I replaced the moulded components with WEP etches, described in more detail below. There are 3 vee-hangers - 1 in the centre of one side, and 2 positioned either side at one end for the DC brake levers. For these to sit in the right relationship to the solebar, the solebar needs to be thinned down - otherwise the vee-hangers are set too far back. In the relevant places, I filed the back of the solebar as thin as I dared without breaking through:

 

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I then assembled the solebars and spacers as a subframe:

 

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Before attaching the solebars to the body, the headstocks needed fitting. These have square ends, not the correct angled ends, and are a little short. Adding some small pieces of plastikard fixes this. It's easiest to make these oversize, glue them on, and then file back:

 

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The left hand side filed back, the right still to do:

 

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I used a template to get the angles consistent:

 

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Then a small piece to make the top flange on the headstock:

 

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Because of the way the solebar and headstock meet, there is a small gap that needs filling on the back of the headstock, again with a small rectangle of plastikard:

 

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The solebar assembly was then attached to the body.

 

The brakes are the kit's weakest area. The brake shoes sit too far from the wheels - something I find particularly irksome and unnecessary. Worse, the push rods are the wrong way round for DC1 brakes - the cross shaft turns in the opposite direction to that on conventional lever brakes, so the left-hand push rod should be above the cross shaft, not below. There is no detail moulded on the back of the brake shoes and push rods, so the moulding can't just be put on the other way round. As well as the vee-hangers and DC1 brake levers, I decided to replace the brake show/push rod assembly with WEP etched components.

 

The centre vee-hanger in position, packed up on a piece of plastikard:

 

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And the end vee-hangers and cross-shaft:

 

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The above picture also shows the angled gussets that reinforce the joint between the solebar and the headstock on the prototype. I added these with some 5 thou plastikard.

 

As it turned out, the WEP etchings also position the brake shoes too far from the wheels, so once the assembly was all soldered up, I used a fine fretsaw to cut the push rods away from the central tumbler, and re-soldered once everything was in position on the wagon. The WEP brake shoes and push rods in position:

 

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This picture also shows a few other things. Firstly, the continuation of the side knees down to the solebar, made in plastikard strip, with little cubes of plastikard for the bolt heads. Then there are the door stop springs. The kit comes with long springs, and long banger plates moulded onto the wagon side. These are appropriate for these wagons in their later condition, but not for my 1908 period, so I scrapped off the banger plates and replaced with square ones, positioned for the short stop springs made from nickel silver strip. Rivet heads are spots of PVA glue applied on the end of a piece of fine wire - a handy dodge. Lastly, the safety loops are made from nickel silver strip.

 

That's about it for below the solebar. The only part I didn't fit at this stage was the 'swan neck' lever that connects the end cross-shaft with the DC brake levers on, and the centre cross-shaft that operates the brake shoes. It is easier to leave this off while everything is being painted, and only add it right at the end.

 

Next is the sheet supporter - the rail that attaches to the ends of the wagon and holds the sheet up. Unlike the PECO 4-plank wagon in a previous post, this kit comes with components for the sheet supporter. The moulded end mechanisms are quite nice, though the semicircular guide is not quite as refined as one made in metal. Since it is largely hidden by the sheet in this case, I decided to use it. However, I replaced the rather skinny wire provided in the kit for the bar itself with some 1.6mm straight brass wire - much closer to scale diameter.

 

The ends of the bar were filed and bent to the flat shape of the prototype:

 

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The hole in the end had a short length of brass wire soldered in to act as a pivot, fitted into a hole drilled in the end of the wagon.

 

Because all but the ends of the bar is hidden, it is easier to make it in two halves, cut to exact length and soldered together afterwards, than to try and bend both ends to get the exact length needed. This also gives an opportunity to add strength in the middle so it doesn't sag or get bent while fitting the sheet:

 

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Here it is, with the cast G.W.R and number plates on (spares from a PECO 4-plank kit) and ready for the paintshop:

 

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One other thing just visible in this photo is all the hooks to tie the sheet to, 5 each side sticking down from under the curb rail, and 3 each end sticking out from the curb rail. The hooks are made from 0.5mm soft iron wire, bent to shape and inserted into holes drilled in the wagon body and held in place with a tiny dab of runny CA glue. I have also added the buffer guides - the buffer heads and couplings go on last, when everything else is done, as the wagon is easier to work on without them fitted.

 

The paper arrangement the wagon is sitting on in this picture is the method I use to mask the wheels. I paint the wheels black before assembly, and then make a simple 'box' shape folded up from paper, with slots for the axles to go in. This means I can spray the wagon while keeping the wheels free of paint.

 

To help ensure the sheet conforms to the right shape, as if curving under its own weight where it is draped between the sheet supporter and the wagon sides, I made a former in plastikard:

 

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Other than the sheet itself, which I will describe in part 2, the only other thing is painting and weathering - a mix of Vallejo acrylics to make the red, and some black and brown washes mainly on the chassis. I didn't bother with the top couple of planks, as they will be covered by the sheet, and there are no transfers needed because of the cast plates, of course:

 

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Part 2 will cover making the sheet, but in the meantime, here is another taste of the finished item:

 

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Nick.

 

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There are a few 'footnote' type comments I want to add, that would have rather cluttered up the main post.

 

Firstly, it is worth noting the top flange of the solebar is missing in the kit's mouldings. However, the sole bar is the correct height, and the flange would be largely invisible from normal viewing angles, so I ignored this.

 

Secondly, regarding the spacing of the solebars, using the spacer length I indicated may place the wheel bearings too close together for the axle length - this needs checking carefully! With this build, it seemed to come out OK. The wheels turned without binding, with one axle having slight side-play and the other not - possible slightly inaccuracy in either the spacers I made, or the mouldings and how they hold the bearings. However, with my diagram N13 loco coal wagon build (described in a future post), which uses the same chassis, I had to file down the boss on the back of the axle guard to allow the bearings to be slightly further apart. This also meant drilling out the holes for the bearings a little - beware of drilling right through as there isn’t much spare plastic.

 

Thirdly, the side knees that should continue down onto the solebars are represented in the kit, but in the wrong place relative to the side knees on the wagon side mouldings. I removed and replaced them once the wagon was assembled and the new sections could be aligned with the mouldings on the body.

 

Nick.

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That looks very good, well worth all the extra work to bring the kit up to standard. There is a look and feel to using brass for the brakegear that plastic just isn't fine enough for. 

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Lovely work. Some good tips for the detailing, I like that sheet draping former. Might try it in 4mm.

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8 hours ago, Dave John said:

That looks very good, well worth all the extra work to bring the kit up to standard. There is a look and feel to using brass for the brakegear that plastic just isn't fine enough for. 

 

Thanks Dave - yes, etched parts are often much better for brake gear and the like. Having said that, the swan-neck lever moulding in this kit, which includes the ratchet mechanism, is really excellent, and probably better than an etched component would be. I find I am often mixing plastic and brass parts, partly because the extra time taken by working in brass doesn't always seem worthwhile if the provided plastic part is of good quality.

 

1 hour ago, Mikkel said:

Lovely work. Some good tips for the detailing, I like that sheet draping former. Might try it in 4mm.

 

Thanks, Mikkel. The big challenge with modelling the sheets is getting the appearance of a material that is flexible and hangs under its own weight, or is tensioned by the ties. The added complication is the need to do the lettering - if the sheets were unlettered, there would be a wider choice of materials to experiment with.

 

More on this in part 2...

 

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Regarding the kit headstock's square ends, I get the impression the early O4s were like that (as per the official diagram) whilst the later ones had angled headstocks. Not sure when the change happened.  The O3 build window comes after the O4, and I think the angled ends had then become established.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Miss Prism said:

Regarding the kit headstock's square ends, I get the impression the early O4s were like that (as per the official diagram) whilst the later ones had angled headstocks. Not sure when the change happened.  The O3 build window comes after the O4, and I think the angled ends had then become established.

 

 

 

Thanks, Russ - that's interesting. I hadn't noticed that the O4 had a mix. The earlier 4-plank wagons were all definitely square ended, and later designs angled, as you say, though the angle seems to get greater as the body width increases.

 

The problem with the kit is that the headstocks aren't long enough to be square ended either - they are a millimetre or two shorter than the width of the end. This is a pitfall for when the same mouldings are used for the 4-plank wagon in the range. The 3-plank is wrong in other ways (too long over headstocks, DC brake gear not conventional lever...). The N13 loco coal wagon has all sorts of issues, though they can be fixed - which I will come to in a future post!

 

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For the last fifty years or so I have worked with the solebar back-to-back measurement being 6'0" for wooden solebar wagons and 6'3" for steel channel solebar wagons (this is a generic view, there are some companies which used 5"11" B2B).

 

In 7mm I expect GWR wagons to have solebars which are 42mm apart (at least)....  so how do I align my understanding with what you have written in this post?

 

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4 minutes ago, Western Star said:

For the last fifty years or so I have worked with the solebar back-to-back measurement being 6'0" for wooden solebar wagons and 6'3" for steel channel solebar wagons (this is a generic view, there are some companies which used 5"11" B2B).

 

In 7mm I expect GWR wagons to have solebars which are 42mm apart (at least)....  so how do I align my understanding with what you have written in this post?

 

regards, Graham

 

Good question...

 

The thing with the Slaters (ex Coopercraft) kit is that the depth of the bottom flange of the sole bar is too great. I decided to get the outside edge of the sole bar in the right place relative to the bottom edge of the body, as this seems to me the most important factor visually - it is what gives the impression of 'overhang' which I think is a key part of the wagon's character. Making that decision means the visible face of the solebar is set too far back, towards the centre of the wagon. Add the out of scale thickness of the vertical part of the solebar, and the inside faces are now significantly closer together than scale.

 

I hope that makes sense - it is partly a peculiarity of this kit, and the others that use the same chassis, and partly my choice about where to put the compromise.

 

One other thing to note about the prototype measurements, which I only realised when looking at wagon drawings as I thought through my approach to this kit, is that w-irons are sometimes packed out from the back face of the solebar, adding another factor to be considered in trying to get all the dimensions right.

 

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