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GWR 4-plank with straw load - ABS kit


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For my 1908 GWR setting, I can't have too many 4-plank opens - they were around 40% of the revenue-earning fleet. My planned rosta of 20 GWR wagons therefore includes eight 4-plankers, and it is another one of these that is the subject of this post. It differs from the last one in being made from the ABS whitemetal kit (remaining stocks still available from DJ Parkins). It also has a load of straw under a sheet - inspired by Mikkel's similar creation in 4mm scale.

 

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The kit comprises four main castings, and then the running gear, brakes, buffers, and so on:

 

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The body was soldered together with low-melt solder:

 

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The interior is nicely detailed. I soldered up the inside corners, as I knew the inside wouldn't be visible with the straw load. I think it would be hard to do this cleanly, so if I wanted the inside to be seen, I would spot-solder underneath for strength, then put some epoxy resin into the gap inside the corner and clean it up when half hard.

 

 

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The axleguards and wheels were added:

 

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The floor provided is a piece of planked plastikard. It is a bit flimsy, and as I didn't need the plank detail, I replaced it with 40 thou plastikard to provide a solid foundation for the brake gear below and the former for the straw above.

 

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Next was the brake gear. The main casting is nicely detailed, so I used it, together with the vee-hanger that is integral to the side castings. For my period, the brake gear should be single-sided. The cross-shaft was made from 1mm internal diameter brass tube, with a piece of 1mm brass wire running through it. This method means I have a cross-shaft that is the right diameter (the real things were quite chunky, and often modelled too small in 7mm scale), but with the holes in the vee-hanger, brake lever and other parts needing to be only 1mm diameter. This is much easier than trying to drill 1.6mm or so holes, which leaves very little metal around the hole.

 

On the prototype, the brake gear had a single support strut for the cross-shaft on the inside end, so this was made from a bit of scrap etch.

 

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The view from the front - the brake shoes and hangers, which are the earlier type made from a simple piece of flat metal, are very nicely modelled in the ABS casting:

 

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The supplied brake lever and lever guard are a bit crude - an inevitable consequence of being cast in whitemetal. I replaced them with parts from Ambis:

 

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With brake safety loops from nickel silver strip, a door banger plate from plastikard, buffers and couplings, the wagon is physically complete. The CRT Kits sprung buffer heads were fitted to the ABS cast guides after drilling them out accordingly. They are seen here with the couplings on the wagon just for show - they weren't permanently fitted until after painting:

 

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The wagon was painted with Halford's red oxide primer, and then the sides and ends were varnished with Vallejo acrylic gloss, ready for lettering. My preference was not to varnish, as the matt primer finish is a very good basis for the fairly heavy weathering I was planning to apply, and I was going to use Pressfix transfers, which don't need a gloss surface. However, I have run out of small "G.W.R" texts on my Pressfix sheet, so the lettering had to be done with waterslide transfers:

 

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The numbers are from those supplied by PECO with their 4-plank kit - they come as a complete number rather than separate numerals, which makes life easier and guarantees the numerals are straight. However, they are a bluer white than the Slater's transfers which I used for the other lettering. I also struggled to prevent silvering, despite using both Microset and Microsol, and having varnished previously, so I probably won't use them again.

 

The basis of the hay load was a former made of layers of corrugated cardboard, and covered with cut up plumber's hemp:

 

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This former was made some time ago, originally for the PECO 4-plank wagon I described in another post, before I decided that would remain empty. I based the former on the pictures of hay and straw bales being loaded in Russell's GWR Wagons Appendix. I later discovered that for my period (1908) hay and straw came in hand-made 'trusses' which were loaded differently and tended to make a less rectangular shape. I kept the former, thinking I could pack additional hemp around it to create a more rounded shape, but as we will see I was only partly successful.

 

Weathering was applied with a mix of washes and dry-brushing in greys, browns and pinks (for the slightly faded paint areas). The former was glued in:

 

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Extra hemp was pushed in to fill the slight space between the wagon sides and the former - I kept the hemp over-long at this stage, for trimming later:

 

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The sheet was made from paper and aluminium foil using the methods described previously. One change was the cords - rather than using EZ Line, I used 0.25mm rigging thread (used by ship modellers). I realised that I would not be able to glue the sheet to the former in the way I had previously, and the cords would have to do some real work pulling the sheet into position. The EZ Line is elastic, but quite weak, and would not be able to apply enough force.

 

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I put some extra hemp over the former before applying the sheet. The plan was this would create the straw coming out under the ends of the sheet, and I would stuff extra hemp under the sides once it was roped into position.

 

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To keep everything in place while I roped the sheet on, I held the sheet and the wagon together on a wooden block with a couple of large elastic bands:

 

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I used a miniature brass clamp to hold the end of each cord, so I could keep it under tension with the weight of the clamp while I had both hands free to turn the cord around the hooks under the curb rail:

 

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The cord was glued in position with a drop of thin CA, applied on the end of a piece of wire. The ABS kit comes with a representation of the hooks cast into the sides and ends. These are neater than the wire hooks I have made on other wagons, which are a bit over-scale, but the ABS casting is not actually a hook shape, just a piece of metal sticking down. The cord tends to slip off, and if I was doing it again I would probably replace the cast protrusions with wire hooks to make attaching the cords easier.  

 

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I started with the three side cords, doing one side then the other, making sure the sheet was tight over the top of the former when doing the second side. I then did the ends, leaving the corners to last:

 

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The corners are folded in and tied, using tweezers to push and prod the material into something like the folds the real thing takes up. Extra hemp was pushed up under the sides using a wooden stirrer - the round end preventing damage to the sheet. Looking at photos of wagons with hay and straw loads, it is clear the sheets have a degree of stretch to them - they form over the rounded load in a curving shape without a lot of loose material. The combination of my too-rectangular former and non-stretchy sheet meant I had an excess of material at the ends, which formed into folds that are not prototypical. As far as possible, I got the hemp to look as if it was supporting these folds as some sort of justification, but this aspect could definitely be improved.

 

Next, I trimmed the hemp back with small, sharp scissors, trying to get the uneven look of the straw sticking out seen in pictures. Finally, I added the ropes from 0.5mm rigging cord. The real ropes were 75 feet long, or 525mm in 7mm scale, so I cut two pieces that length.

 

The GWR General Appendix to the Rule Book shows how straw and hay should be roped - different methods for the two types of load. Straw is roped with ropes going across the wagon in three places, while for hay the ropes go across twice, and diagonally twice. Unfortunately it doesn't give details of how exactly the ropes should be tied, and none of the pictures I had were clear enough to show this, so I used a certain amount of guesswork. Each of the two ropes starts at a left-hand buffer (looking at the wagon from the side), goes to a hook a quarter of the way along the wagon, over the load, along to the centre, over again, and is tied off onto itself. I ended up with a few scale feet of rope left over, which I cut off, not knowing how the excess would have been dealt with in reality - I imagine if an actual railwayman had done that, he would have been dismissed for damaging company property!

 

With all the handling, the sheet needed some touching up, as did the wagon, but with that, the job was done. With hindsight, I wish I had made a new former to give a slightly more rounded effect - the load is rather flat on top compared to photos, especially along the length of the wagon. That would also have given me the opportunity to create slight 'valleys' where the ropes press into the sheet. As it is, while they aren't loose, they don't especially give the sense of being under tension. Nevertheless, I am pleased with the overall effect.

 

Loads like this are quite a lot of work, but they add interest - and the horses of Netherport will now have something comfortable to lie on.

 

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For anyone wishing to judge prototype fidelity, here's Reading Vastern Road yard, c. 1905:

 

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Is there any way of distinguishing between hay and straw loads, at least 7 mm or 4 mm scale?

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For GWR at least, yes - the roping is different, as per the Appendix to the rule book. Three ropes across for straw, and two ropes plus diagonals for hay. By BR days, this has changed, possibly with the move to machine made bales.

 

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That's a really splendid addition to your emerging wagon fleet (and competition for the wren that, every year, builds a nest under the gutter of my workshop).

 

Recently (last week as it happens), whilst researching companies in Brentford (which is adjacent to the fictional Swan Hill) I came across Underwoods In Brentford High Street which backs on to Brentford canal.  Brentford's local history society has this "The company was an early importer of hay and straw, starting with 600 tons of forage per annum from Holland. This had increased to 100,000 tons early in the 20th century. The Underwoods opened factories on the Continent for threshing and pressing and eventually had six depots in London and others in major cities around the country. The company employed 300 people and maintained a stable of 100 horses. The Underwoods also traded in lime, coal and coke."  Brentford canal connects to the GWR's Brentford docks.  I was interested in the scale of operations associated with hay and straw and this reference is Underwoods flyer https://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.uk/number-80-brentford-high-street/. which itself references depots with all the major railway companies including the GWR at Chelsea - distribution by water and rail. 

 

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1 hour ago, magmouse said:

For GWR at least, yes - the roping is different, as per the Appendix to the rule book. Three ropes across for straw, and two ropes plus diagonals for hay. By BR days, this has changed, possibly with the move to machine made bales.

 

Ah yes, of course, I now recall that we discussed this. But I also meant, in terms of the appearance of the material?

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To avoid silvering with waterslide transfers, apply them into wet Klear (or whatever Johnsons are currently calling it). Immediately apply a little more Klear over the transfer, so that the transfer is entirely coated in Klear on both sides. This excludes any and all air-pockets, which are the cause of silvering.

 

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It's fun to mess around with hemp, isn't it 🙂

 

This has to be my favourite yet of your wagons. Very nicely done. Your sheet sits more naturally than my attempt, it really captures the look of those in the King's Meadow photos. And the roping is a little piece of art. Great stuff!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mikkel said:

King's Meadow photos. 

 

Vastern Road yard. There are no hay/straw loads in the otherwise equally nice panoramic view of the Kings Meadow yard, almost certainly taken from the same vantage-point - the water tower next to the bridge carrying the main line over Vastern Road.

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8 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

But I also meant, in terms of the appearance of the material?


I suspect it would be hard to tell in photos. From my extremely limited knowledge of agricultural matters, hay is less yellow in colour and a more lightweight material than straw - which you probably knew anyway. I am not away of any definitive characteristics that would be easily seen in the kinds of photos we generally have.

 

A related observation, though - using the roping as a way to distinguish straw and hay loads, looking at the various pictures I could find, hay loads are always double sheeted, with the hay completely covered, while straw is often single-sheeted with the load visible round the edges. My sample size is too small to be certain, but it is suggestive. I guess hay is more likely to suffer if it gets wet, while straw will shake off a certain amount of water, and be less likely to rot if a little damp.

 

Anyone with actual knowledge of these two materials, please chip in!

 

Nick.

 

PS I know have a hankering to do a wagon with double sheeted hay, which would be a nice opportunity to have one clean and one dirty sheet together.

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3 hours ago, Mikkel said:

It's fun to mess around with hemp, isn't it 🙂


I really have NO idea what you are talking about, Mikkel. And if I did, I would be shocked.

 

3 hours ago, Mikkel said:

This has to be my favourite yet of your wagons. Very nicely done. Your sheet sits more naturally than my attempt, it really captures the look of those in the King's Meadow photos. And the roping is a little piece of art. Great stuff!


Thank you - I do like the colour combination of dark grey sheet, red wagon and yellow straw, purely in terms of aesthetics. Even so, I think that collectively we haven’t yet hit on a really good way to do the sheets, that makes them seem thin, flexible and with weight.

 

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8 hours ago, cctransuk said:

To avoid silvering with waterslide transfers, apply them into wet Klear (or whatever Johnsons are currently calling it). Immediately apply a little more Klear over the transfer, so that the transfer is entirely coated in Klear on both sides. This excludes any and all air-pockets, which are the cause of silvering.

 

John Isherwood,

Cambridge Custom Transfers.


Thanks, John - that’s a good tip. I think part of the problem with this wagon was the slightly greater texture of the white metal castings compared with a plastic kit. Nevertheless, the Slaters transfers settled better than the Peco ones in this case, but I will experiment with your method as the Peco wagon numbers are certainly convenient.

 

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11 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Vastern Road yard. There are no hay/straw loads in the otherwise equally nice panoramic view of the Kings Meadow yard, almost certainly taken from the same vantage-point - the water tower next to the bridge carrying the main line over Vastern Road.

 

Indeed yes, I got them mixed up. The period photos from Vastern Rd and King's Meadow yards are among my favourites. As we've dicussed in the past, they are of value not only for the details but also the combination of both early small GWR lettering and the large lettering. The date of the crop you show above is 1905 or later as there is an O2 in the wider shot.

 

IIRC you saw some of the photos in a Reading exhibition once. The overview shots are also in Tony Atkins' "GWR Goods Services" part 2A, which also have some closer views. GWRJ No.80 also has some interesting shots of the yards.

 

Britain from Above has several good shots from later years of each yard, but those showing both yards are from a distance and grainy. Here is one, dated 1920. King's Meadow yard in the foreground, Vastern Rd yard in the background. 

 

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But I digress. Returning to hay loads, @Miss Prism posted a photo in the threads some years ago with even higher hay loads, suggested to be at Culham ca. 1910. A search could not find it, I assume the great image loss has swallowed it. So I am reposting it here:

 

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I was tempted to model the loads this high on my own example, but decided that it would look unrealistic 🙂 

 

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23 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

IIRC you saw some of the photos in a Reading exhibition once.

 

Yes, back in 2016 - I contacted the curator of the exhibition (it was at Reading Museum) who put me on to where he had been alerted to the photos, GW Journal.

 

30 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

Britain from Above has several good shots from later years of each yard, but those showing both yards are from a distance and grainy. Here is one, dated 1920. King's Meadow yard in the foreground, Vastern Rd yard in the background. 

 

There are some more good aerial photos from 1948 in this document: 

https://images.reading.gov.uk/2021/06/5.13-Heritage-Statement.pdf

which discusses the history of the ornamental gateway / lodge to the old electricity works and whether or not it should be preserved as part of the residential redevelopment of the site (spoiler alert - no). This area is of interest to me because from 1996 to 2002 we lived at 2 Lynmouth Road, backing onto what was then the SSE site.

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43 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

But I digress. Returning to hay loads, @Miss Prism posted a photo in the threads some years ago with even higher hay loads, suggested to be at Culham ca. 1910. A search could not find it, I assume the great image loss has swallowed it. So I am reposting it here:

 

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I was tempted to model the loads this high on my own example, but decided that it would look unrealistic 🙂 


Thanks for reposting this. Like you I had saved it as a reference picture.

 

Checking the density of straw and hay bales, and doing a rough calculation, it’s impossible to overload a normal goods wagon with this type of load, so the limit will be the loading gauge - or possibly the ability of those loading the wagon to access the load and to stack it in a secure, stable way. Possibly the characteristics of hay and straw, and how they are made into trusses, explains the higher stacks of hay here compared with the straw loads in the Reading picture.

 

As well as the height of the loads, a couple of other things catch my eye. The load is hay, based on the diagonal roping just visible in the top right corner of the picture. The first wagon is loaded very neatly, with vertical sides to the stack of hay, unlike the next two, with sloping sides and ragged ends to the hay. Then there are the wagons themselves, which are very uneven in terms of the height of the bottom of the solebars and the curb rails. They are all similarly loaded, so it can’t just be the deflection of the springs under load. 

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35 minutes ago, magmouse said:

Then there are the wagons themselves, which are very uneven in terms of the height of the bottom of the solebars and the curb rails. They are all similarly loaded, so it can’t just be the deflection of the springs under load. 

 

We see a variety of wagons, of different ages. The wagon second from the right is a timber-framed 2-plank wagon of 1870s vintage; I think the one fourth from the right may be timber-framed too. So it's unsurprising that they're sitting at different heights - ages of bearing springs, etc. (Though bearing springs will have been replaced several times in the life of a wagon.)

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So our buffers ought to be at different heights too? Interesting, and a welcome excuse.

 

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40 minutes ago, Mikkel said:

So our buffers ought to be at different heights too? Interesting, and a welcome excuse.

 


Just what I was thinking - so much for all the fretting about buffer heights, gauges, jigs, etc.!

 

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What a fascinating blog post Nick and thanks very much for taking the time to describe how you created a sheeted straw load.  So far nobody has managed to successfully create anything like this in the digital world, but I live in hope.

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1 hour ago, Annie said:

What a fascinating blog post Nick and thanks very much for taking the time to describe how you created a sheeted straw load.  So far nobody has managed to successfully create anything like this in the digital world, but I live in hope.

 

Thanks Annie. The following discussion is more than half the fun with these posts. And yes, modelling this in the virtual world will be tricky. In my 'day job' I have colleagues who are working on how to make theatre and other types of performance in digital space, as well as 'virtual production' for film. It is the games engines such as Epic's Unreal that are driving the technology, because that is where the money is. I think it is only a matter of time before anyone wanting to make 3D virtual environments will be doing so using games engine technology, as it will be the most available, and give the best results. There will be no point in trying to use anything else, and I suspect Trainz and other simulators will have to follow suit or be replaced by something else. You may get your wish yet!

 

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8 minutes ago, magmouse said:

 

Thanks Annie. The following discussion is more than half the fun with these posts. And yes, modelling this in the virtual world will be tricky. In my 'day job' I have colleagues who are working on how to make theatre and other types of performance in digital space, as well as 'virtual production' for film. It is the games engines such as Epic's Unreal that are driving the technology, because that is where the money is. I think it is only a matter of time before anyone wanting to make 3D virtual environments will be doing so using games engine technology, as it will be the most available, and give the best results. There will be no point in trying to use anything else, and I suspect Trainz and other simulators will have to follow suit or be replaced by something else. You may get your wish yet!

 

Nick.

There's certainly some changes afoot with Trainz at present Nick, but it's all at an awkward stage where the transition is breaking existing models which predictably is annoying their older customers (like me) who have a considerable investment in these models.  Eventually it will all smooth out I suppose, but until then I'm taking a watching brief and staying with the older versions of the simulator.

I still have a small collection of my old coarse scale 'O' gauge models I never sold off so who knows I might get inspired to try my hand at it again.

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Delighted to see this wagon rolling by in the rotating gallery in the RH column of the page. Better than adverts for funeral plans!

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