Mel_H Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Hi, any idea on the price of the wagons? I'm told that information will be provided on Monday (18/1/16) - and announcement is scheduled apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2016 I have emailed them but awaiting a reply, i'll see what happens monday Bet they will fly out, had a look at the pics in Hornby mag, may partake in a few if they are a decent (ie sensible) price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I have emailed them but awaiting a reply, i'll see what happens monday Bet they will fly out, had a look at the pics in Hornby mag, may partake in a few if they are a decent (ie sensible) price Just wait till they hit Ebay! Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Aside from any promotional models that Drax will issue to corporate contacts etc the wagon will only be available via retail through Hatton's (Drax haven't the resources for the distribution) who have just announced the product codes and pricing on their website. Hornby R6723 Drax 102t biomass hopper in Drax 'Swoosh' livery - Produced for Drax power station - Limited to 1000 - Available only from Hatton's - £83.00 http://www.ehattons.com/172341/Hornby_R6723_Drax_102t_biomass_hopper_in_Drax_Swoosh_livery_Produced_for_Drax_power_station_/StockDetail.aspx Hornby R6724 Drax 102t biomass hopper in Drax 'powering tomorrow' livery - Produced for Drax power station - Limited to 1000 - Available only from Hatton's - £83.00 http://www.ehattons.com/172342/Hornby_R6724_Drax_102t_biomass_hopper_in_Drax_powering_tomorrow_livery_Produced_for_Drax_pow/StockDetail.aspx The comparatively high price is due to the limited run commissioned by Drax with the associated cost, no-one's making any huge margin on it and it is very definitely a one-off opportunity as the tooling is not owned by Hornby and isn't likely to be used other than this publicity run. Hatton's will be receiving deliveries in the next week or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Now how do I become a corporate contact! Roddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Well that rules out a rake. Can 1 be justified? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icphotos Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Well thats around £2000 for a prototypical rake! Don't think I'll be doing that. Think I'm facing a switch to N gauge for a Durham Coast Line layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If the tooling is made, why not use it properly? No modeller is just going to want to buy one or two, but very few will be able to afford even half a dozen. Where did the figure of 1000 come from? Has any kind of market research been done, I wonder? These make the latest batch of Bachmann Polybulk wagons look like a bargain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Because Drax aren't aiming to be a manufacturer/commissioning retailer etc. and it's different circumstances than may normally prevail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2016 oh well, nice as they are i can't justify that, unless of course i win the euro millions later then i may buy a couple...... ....of rakes of them 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The comparatively high price is due to the limited run commissioned by Drax with the associated cost £83.00 is insane for one wagon. As most modellers are at least going to require a small handful (4 or 5 maybe?), why not simply produce a larger run at a reasonable price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 £83.00 is insane for one wagon. As most modellers are at least going to require a small handful (4 or 5 maybe?), why not simply produce a larger run at a reasonable price? Return to http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/107050-draxhornby-biomass-wagons/page-2&do=findComment&comment=2165268 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I would have bought 8 at £40 ish each but not at £83. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted January 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) £83 per wagon for a corporate gift..we're producing the wrong things!!!! I might see if Drax fancy doing it in N at the bargain price of £60/wagon... Edited January 15, 2016 by red death 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icphotos Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Can't blame Hornby for taking the commission. Cash up front and don't have to negotiate licencing etc. Drax aren't interested in supplying modellers, its more of a marketing/vanity exercise. Pity a model shop hadn't commissioned them, then price and numbers would probably be different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'd have thought there would be an opportunity here to make a few quid for the commissioner. If further production runs could bring the cost down closer to perhaps £60 that they could sell quite a few more and gain free advertising at model railways shows with full rakes on the layouts. £83 is pretty high for multiple purchases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2016 Or is it a typo, £83 for a pair? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Or is it a typo, £83 for a pair? Andy G Not a typo. I have looked at the Hatton's site. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Because Drax aren't aiming to be a manufacturer/commissioning retailer etc. and it's different circumstances than may normally prevail. But, understandably, they've delegated the business of dealing with us weird railway modellers to Hattons. As things stand, the models are going to be rather useless. A rake of two or three will look a bit silly, but very few of us will be able to afford any more. Drax is a business, so you would think that they would be interested in trying to maximise the return on their investment. Perhaps Hattons could offer to buy the tooling and produce another batch at a more realistic price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Because Drax aren't aiming to be a manufacturer/commissioning retailer etc. and it's different circumstances than may normally prevail. Quite understandable - so perhaps one of our other manufacturers should make Drax an offer for the tooling; I'm surprised that Hornby aren't doing exactly that. .... or perhaps the corporate gift / vanity thing doesn't work if Joe Bloggs can afford to by them ?!? In many ways, it might have been better if the whole project could have been a private commission, with none at all available to railway modellers. It's bound to leave a sour taste when the tool could have been used to satisfy demand at an affordable price. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 15, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2016 Do the doors and everything have little motors operated by DCC that open themselves? That is almost $200 NZD. I can buy tender locos for less than that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icphotos Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The potential profit to be made from selling future runs of these will be negligable to Drax and most probably this run will be cost neutral to Drax as the cost of the ones given away by Drax will be subsidised by what modellers pay for their models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Be like Bill. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I personally rather welcome this. These wagons are very niche and thus would of never appeared in a manufacturers catalogue. I wonder shall other railway operators be watching this with an eye to commission corporate gifts, with a minimum order needed for Hornby or Dapol or Bachmann to cover costs of production. I think knowing these are only ever to be made, makes them exclusive and I shall wait until Drax confirm they shall not sell the tooling to a manufacturer before I buy. A cool £664 for eight better mean they shall never be made again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Makes Bachmann's S Stock seem reasonably priced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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