JeffP Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 LIke different numbers and names? I know you couldn't get away with it with most BR steam locos, unless you modelled the front numberplate nicked, but what about diesels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Diesels have different grille panels etc on each side so have to be different on each side to be authentic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Diesels have different grille panels etc on each side so have to be different on each side to be authentic But most, if not all have the same numerals each side otherwise identification would be somewhat problematic, which is what the OP was referring to. I don't see anywhere where he is referring to grilles etc. What he is suggesting is a different identity each side, e.g. 37052 on one side and 37017 on the other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I've done it in the past. With BR blue/TOPS Era you just have to make sure your headcode boxes are accurate for both numbers - i.e. plated in, or twin dots, or "0000". I intend to do it again, with my Heljan O class 31. It'll be the same number each side, but one side will carry the short-lived 'Finsbury Park' white stripe treatment. Might be trickier for more modern liveries where they put the loco number on the nose as well. Another thing I do sometimes is weather each side differently as well. As the roof rarely gets cleaned that can match the dirtier side & still look ok on the clean side. The main concern I would have about doing each side with different numbers etc, is whether or not you can see both sides of the loco during operations; i.e.as it goes around a curve, or on a turntable. Not such an issue on a straight shunty-plank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I did it with a blue Scottish 37/0 because (for reasons I can' remember) I had two single nameplates left over. One side was 37026 'Loch Awe' and the other side was 37012 'Loch Rannoch'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Not intentionally. What'll usually happens is new loco comes onto the workbench and I shall ascertain which side the factory has done the best job on. Orange stripe and printed details etc. I'll then have a go at taking the printed numbers off, a piece of cake on yellow end numbers, but sometimes a lottery on cabsides. The least buggered up side then gets renumbering, weathering and if required 'plates. The other side doesn't get touched. When I was regularly loaning a fleet to an exhibition digital depot layout I added a yellow sticker with the dcc address number on the non viewing cabside for the benefit of the operators. This also had the secondary implied indication that: "THIS SIDE IS NOT FOR VIEWING!" My thoughts when I came back from a leg stretch to find the yellow stickers on full public display by one "colleague" don't bear repetition... C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yes, my idea was that, in this day of increasingly expensive models, and VERY expensive "O" gauge models, why shouldn't we have, say a Western as 1005 on one side and 1007 on the other? Especially if you have a depot type layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 None at all Jeff. Unless you do one of the Western Region haunts that still possessed a turntable! C6T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have done it with a German military half track before, but it wasn't intentional. Didn't noticed until after a layer of varnish was applied over the top. One of those Doh! moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I haven't done it yet but have considered different liveries as well. I intend some of my SR emus to be all over blue on one side and blue/grey on the other. That way I can double my fleet which will allow me to model different time frames i.e. late 60s-late 70s and late 70s-late 80s. On my layout you can only see one side at a time. cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have seen scale length HST's like this. Virgin on one side and midland mainline on the other. The exhibtion layout i saw it on had 4 different HST's but only two trains (virgin-midland mainline and virgin/GNER. And as one side always faced the operator the viewing public were none the wiser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Did it with two 24's which were numbered differentIy on both sides, in green Iivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2016 Operating Dagworth. "Clive can you take the Norwich." "Oi Andi, it won't go" "Put the number in the handset" " I have done, several times" " No not that number the one on the other side". It is a wonderful idea that some diesel or electric locos can carry two identities, but as you can see it can a a drawback with DCC. When I first saw the topic "....does anyone do both sides differently?". I take it Jeff you haven't built an MTK kit where the two sides are different lengths, and neither the right length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Years ago I did a tender drive Hornby Schools in Southern malachite, SOUTHERN on one side and BRITISH RAILWAYS on the other. I think its a great way to double your stock. Occasionally I daydream of a Terminus to ballon loop. Where trains could leave in BR green, go round the loop and come back as blood and custard.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2016 I haven't done it yet but have considered different liveries as well. I intend some of my SR emus to be all over blue on one side and blue/grey on the other. That way I can double my fleet which will allow me to model different time frames i.e. late 60s-late 70s and late 70s-late 80s. On my layout you can only see one side at a time. cheers Shane A mate of mine did this donkeys years ago with Tri-ang Mk1s. The sides came out easily so he bought half a train in crimson/cream and half in green, then swapped to suit. He later did the same with chocolate/cream and maroon examples. His layout was a "round the walls" oval with operating well in the middle so we only saw the chosen side. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I've been known to letter rolling stock on one side, but never got round to doing the other side. No one knows if you never turn it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'm sure there used to be a real 37 that was metals subsector on one side and petroleum subsector on the other! I did once put the idea that if you had a terminus layout, and the trains turned off scene (balloon loop, giant tuntable) then if you had, for example, a 50 and mk2s, paint them NSE on one side and blue/grey on the other then it won't look as if the same train has come straight back out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2016 There is a prototype for it too. In Germany, the Nord-Oostseebahn have a MaK co-co diesel with different liveries on each side. As for modelling, if you run out of a particular digit when renumbering, rather than buy another (expensive) sheet of transferrs, you could use a diffrent number on the other side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I've seen a member on here who modelled a Bachmann Class 150 with different TOC logos on either side so he could represent different time frames Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Most definitely yes . Not really because I want two identities, but as its only seen from one side , I can't always be arsed to do the other. Same for any weathering . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted January 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2016 I've done it with a few wagons, it a simple way to expand the variety of stock you have. As long as the base colour is the same, I'll do early 30's one side, late 30's the other, or pre and post grouping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On my model of the preserved Severn Valley Railway I've adopted this ruse for my EE Class 50 diesels. So I have a large logo liveried model as 50031 Hood and 50049 Defiance, and a plain blue one as 50035 Ark Royal and 50044 Exeter. I'm unlikely to ever want more than 2 50s running at a time, and it's rare on the real SVR too! I use the lower number for the DCC address - i.e. 0031 and 0035. I don't believe there's a way to configure a chip to respond to more than one address. I'm actually still waiting for a replacement circuit board from Hornby for my plain blue version, as it has the flawed original release version, so it's languishing in Kidderminster yard at the moment with neither a DCC chip or a blanking plate in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I transposed the last two numbers on one side of a loco, so I had achieved this inadvertently. SWMBO concluded I'd had another brain f*rt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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