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1 hour ago, The Johnster said:

Well done Dapol for taking the trouble to keep us as informed as possible about the delay and the reason for it.  It sort of doesn't matter what the error was, since it has been spotted and is being corrected.  I wish other manufacturers would keep us up to date with this sort of information; there is a point of course at which such information is commercially sensitive but Dapol have shown how it can be done in this case.

 
 To a certain degree yes.It’s a pity though that they still choose not to inhabit this forum but rather use their own and other social media. I can understand their reasons. Criticism here turned predjudicially unpleasant and enough was enough .

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3 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said:

All painted 'Hornby Green' :jester:

Maybe they found the same bloke in the factory fitting the sound equipped Moguls just like the Dapol sound fitted Streamlined Railcar and decided it might be better to solder the speaker terminals instead?  :rolleyes:

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8 minutes ago, boxbrownie said:

Maybe they found the same bloke in the factory fitting the sound equipped Moguls just like the Dapol sound fitted Streamlined Railcar and decided it might be better to solder the speaker terminals instead?  :rolleyes:

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They're not even good wrapped joints!

 

I had a non sound one and it stopped working.

Taking the top off there was a wire just floating around.

Maybe it had just been twisted around a terminal somewhere?

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29 minutes ago, boxbrownie said:

Maybe they found the same bloke in the factory fitting the sound equipped Moguls just like the Dapol sound fitted Streamlined Railcar and decided it might be better to solder the speaker terminals instead?  :rolleyes:

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Good grief - that's appalling for a factory fit. Would it even pass the required UK/EU safety standards for electrical items?

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5 hours ago, Andy W said:

Begs the question slightly about what small correction to the livery would be necessary on all six livery variations offered? Numberplate printed upside down? Buffer beam not red?. Very little else in common to all six versions. Probably actually affects just one variant but not economic to ship the others separately. Still, full marks to Dapol for spotting it and having it corrected.

 Possibly it’s only one of the variants but it’s cheaper to send the lot as one shipment . No matter 4-5 weeks is hardly a long time when you can wait 4-5 years for Bachmann  158, 94XX, 170 etc etc 

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49 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Good grief - that's appalling for a factory fit. Would it even pass the required UK/EU safety standards for electrical items?

Indeed it is appalling, and I said so in an email (with the picture) to Dapol after it came back for the second time with faults and they said no faults found, I have not had any answers to my subsequent emails, great service on a £250 model direct from the manufacturers!

 

I do not believe I am going to buy any more Dapol goods, I was a fan of Dapol before this, but my treatment has been as bad as the wiring.

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Worth remembering that Dapol factory fitted sound usually means fitted in their UK factory and not at manufacture in China. Which kinda makes the state of that wiring even more depressing.

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2 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Good grief - that's appalling for a factory fit. Would it even pass the required UK/EU safety standards for electrical items?

It certainly is appalling. But I suspect UK/EU standards home in on mains items, not 12 v toys. 

 

My own suspicion is that this is as a result of bringing in local labour that has not received adequate training, or maybe even been required to sit an aptitude test. And as for a quality control process, well....

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I'm looking into ordering one of these models but have a question regards the DCC version and hoping the hive mind of RMWeb can help.

 

The price difference between the DC and DCC versions is around £25 give or take, yet the average price of Next18 decoder is around £20. So if I order the DCC version what do I get for my extra £5

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2 minutes ago, SteamingWales said:

I'm looking into ordering one of these models but have a question regards the DCC version and hoping the hive mind of RMWeb can help.

 

The price difference between the DC and DCC versions is around £25 give or take, yet the average price of Next18 decoder is around £20. So if I order the DCC version what do I get for my extra £5

Dapol's decoder?

I would go for a Zimo, I have a MX618N18 waiting for mine when it arrives.

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8 minutes ago, SteamingWales said:

I'm looking into ordering one of these models but have a question regards the DCC version and hoping the hive mind of RMWeb can help.

 

The price difference between the DC and DCC versions is around £25 give or take, yet the average price of Next18 decoder is around £20. So if I order the DCC version what do I get for my extra £5

Fitting.

 

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For your money you get a decoder that can be picked up for £10 + p&p (Dapol Imperiums are rebadged LaisDCC) and it fitted to a model thats designed for easy DCC fitting.

You also get the added bonus that your new model gets removed from the packaging at Dapol HQ to have the decoder fitted, potentially damaging detail in the process then repacked to send to your or your retailer.

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On 15/09/2020 at 18:32, Kaput said:

For your money you get a decoder that can be picked up for £10 + p&p (Dapol Imperiums are rebadged LaisDCC) and it fitted to a model thats designed for easy DCC fitting.

You also get the added bonus that your new model gets removed from the packaging at Dapol HQ to have the decoder fitted, potentially damaging detail in the process then repacked to send to your or your retailer.

Any reason they're not fitted in China during assembly, as I would expect?

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https://www.keymodelworld.com/article/video-Dapol-product-update

 

The Mogul got a mention in the GETS Dapol Product Update. (first feature)

 

Summary from the video. The models were on the water on 28th September and expected in shops mid-November

 

I think given that new revised date I might save mine as a Christmas present to myself (insert santa emoji)

 

 

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Rejoice people! Moguls next week! (Possibly.)

 

They are not lost at sea and we will at last get to play with the various innovations in this promising model.

 

Something to lighten the gloom!

 

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