bigwordsmith Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just to follow up on my earlier post, I have found out some more details from the Researcher: - The filming will be done during May and June, you need to be available for 9 days. - You need to form a team of 6 people, they are looking for 12 teams, all over 18 years of age. Unfortunately both of the above criteria rule me out and realistically mean that it is most suited to be retired club members. They definitely are not looking to portray the hobby as nerdy, and were at pains to point out they want to show the creativity and quality of railway modelling. I wish them well but think unfortunately the attendees on the program will reinforce the stereotypes due to the restrictions on time etc. AS a time served journalist and writer all I can say is that while those who produce re show may be keen to "show the creativity and quality of railway modelling" those who are producing the programme, and driving the editing, will have one interest - getting ratings. Reality TV shows are all about the 'characters' so to get ratings means featuring those who most cause viewers to thank their maker that they are not like them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Bigwordsmith has hit the nail on the head. The programme makers couldn't care less about the hobby. It's model railways this time. Next it could be knitting or bell ringing, it's all the same to them. Prepare for a stream of inane comments the first exhibition you/anybody shows their layout at after the programme finishes. Maybe even before... steve Edited February 15, 2018 by steve1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 days straight??? I don't know if anyone will vary from a micro layout or shunting puzzle of sorts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just to follow up on my earlier post, I have found out some more details from the Researcher: - The filming will be done during May and June, you need to be available for 9 days. - You need to form a team of 6 people, they are looking for 12 teams, all over 18 years of age. Unfortunately both of the above criteria rule me out and realistically mean that it is most suited to be retired club members. They definitely are not looking to portray the hobby as nerdy, and were at pains to point out they want to show the creativity and quality of railway modelling. I wish them well but think unfortunately the attendees on the program will reinforce the stereotypes due to the restrictions on time etc. Thanks Rob Now to find 5 more people for our team. In 9 days planing and building a model railway is going to be enough of a challenge, and for six people to agree on one theme in that time is even a bigger challenge. Who is up for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 May and June? Crumbs, that's when my exams are. That won't help any team I join... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 days straight??? I don't know if anyone will vary from a micro layout or shunting puzzle of sorts. It is 9 days of filming, not sure if you need to do work outside of that. It is certainly not 9 days straight, I once did 5 solid days when I had to get Pallet Lane ready for its first show, followed by 2 days exhibiting it, I nearly keeled over.... If you put 6 people on building a layout, for 9 dyas I think you would be amazed how big a layout you could build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Sh#te. That's me out then as there is no way any of my stuff would be of quality or in any way creative and I'm not a Club Member but I am retired, in fact I'm always tired. perhaps that's my problem? Must see the G.P and discuss my metabollock meltabloi meltableis metabolism levels. Iza Lazeeboy Saw my GP today for exactly the same problem - metabollock levels. The choice of treatment was steroids or Viagra, unfortunately SWMBO who is a retired clinician thought only steroids would be appropriate L. Imp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It is 9 days of filming, not sure if you need to do work outside of that. It is certainly not 9 days straight, I once did 5 solid days when I had to get Pallet Lane ready for its first show, followed by 2 days exhibiting it, I nearly keeled over.... If you put 6 people on building a layout, for 9 dyas I think you would be amazed how big a layout you could build. Until you put a film crew into the equation getting in the way of progress; can you do that bit again for me luv? Can you do it one more time so I can get a close-up? And that's after you've had some sound bloke with his hands up your shirt secreting a mic somewhere, endless ferreting round for batteries, memory cards, adjusting tripods blah blah. Trust me. Actually, you'd be rather good Rob - but far too conventional! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) It is 9 days of filming, not sure if you need to do work outside of that. It is certainly not 9 days straight, I once did 5 solid days when I had to get Pallet Lane ready for its first show, followed by 2 days exhibiting it, I nearly keeled over.... If you put 6 people on building a layout, for 9 dyas I think you would be amazed how big a layout you could build. No body has yet mentioned funding - are groups expected to fund the building of the layouts or are the programme makers making a contribution and is there a maximum budget? I'm sure a team that puts all the parts 'out to contract' to get them built chequebook style, could then just undertake the final assembly. Is the whole build expected to be completed in the 9 days or can parts be pre-built and then introduced to the final assembly? Ann Accountant Edited February 15, 2018 by vaughan45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Until you put a film crew into the equation getting in the way of progress; can you do that bit again for me luv? Can you do it one more time so I can get a close-up? And that's after you've had some sound bloke with his hands up your shirt secreting a mic somewhere, endless ferreting round for batteries, memory cards, adjusting tripods blah blah. Trust me. Actually, you'd be rather good Rob - but far too conventional! Ah, the secrets of the BRM videos... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Thanks Rob Now to find 5 more people for our team. In 9 days planing and building a model railway is going to be enough of a challenge, and for six people to agree on one theme in that time is even a bigger challenge. Who is up for it? I'm in, but the only place I could possibly do modelling would be in the Maldives, hope the production company will be funding that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2018 I'm in, but the only place I could possibly do modelling would be in the Maldives, hope the production company will be funding that. Hi Stu They must have heard you were coming because the Maldives government has declared a state of emergency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Hotel rooms will be cheap, then . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 days straight??? I don't know if anyone will vary from a micro layout or shunting puzzle of sorts. Well, it's either that or a small circle of track. Pizza, anyone? No - on second thoughts, I think I'd prefer some sort of shunting puzzle. I wonder if there's a prize for the most offbeat innovative concept - perhaps a shunting layout with no switches (but a turntable and a traverser) - or would that be a pointless exercise? Whatever the score, I'd hope for something better thought out than this concept - ever get the impression that some people have never built a layout: http://www.carendt.com/articles/layout-design-contest-entries/26-tramcar-shuffle/ It would probably surprise nobody that this concept was never built as shown. (If I ever were to build it, I'd make it longer and wider - with the turntable moved to the left of the shed roads - and more space between the storage roads on the right. Don't worry - I don't think this is likely to happen any time soon.) In fact, I suspect that a number of the ideas in that challenge were never built - certainly not exactly as described. I seem to recall reading on the site that, when somebody tried to build the (deservedly) winning entry, it needed to be expanded (larger radius curves - gentler gradients) to make it work. I suspect it would have looked rather good, though - even if the Douro Valley is often known for something rather different to model railways. (A lot of people are familiar with Port - a most agreeable beverage, named after the city variously known as Oporto, or Porto.) Thanks Rob Now to find 5 more people for our team. In 9 days planning and building a model railway is going to be enough of a challenge, and for six people to agree on one theme in that time is even a bigger challenge. Who is up for it? There is one way to short circuit that nonsense - for the people concerned to agree on a theme (plus trackplan, what's needed, who does what initially etc) beforehand. That way, the whole time gets spent doing something constructive - and a lot of negative stereotypes can be effectively disposed of. Certainly, the concept of "pre-assembled" teams might appear not to favour "virtual teams" formed from members of a web forum site like this one. How many of us have even met each other - leave alone knowing each other well enough to know each other's specialist interests, abilities etc? At this moment, I don't know whether I'd be available. However, that sort of thing definitely sounds like it could be fun - especially the wiring (even better if it's overhead). Well, I've always liked electric traction (even if OHLE could get in the way with certain layout concepts) - and who could possibly object to a layout full of diesels? (On second thoughts, it's probably better if I don't ask that last question - I don't like the image of steam coming out of some people's ears.) Huw. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Prepare for a stream of inane comments the first exhibition you/anybody shows their layout at after the programme finishes. Maybe even before... I'd have hoped they could be shunted into a siding. On second thoughts, it might be better if I rephrased my comment. Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Until you put a film crew into the equation getting in the way of progress; can you do that bit again for me luv? Can you do it one more time so I can get a close-up? And that's after you've had some sound bloke with his hands up your shirt secreting a mic somewhere, endless ferreting round for batteries, memory cards, adjusting tripods blah blah. Trust me. Actually, you'd be rather good Rob - but far too conventional! Thanks Andy!Sounds like I had a lucky escape at Peterborough, Phils Badger-esque Microphone was distracting enough. I narrowly avoided appearing on the BBC local news a few years ago when exhibiting at Trainwest. BMRG had secured a slot on the news and I was asked to do it as "I didn't conform to the social stereotypes" but I had to give it a miss as my wife and I were planned to go out for dinner so as I value my marriage I politely declined, Hedges Hill cutting went instead. Edited February 15, 2018 by 37114 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) After all this, won't they be better off just filming at Model Rail Scotland, Ally Pally or Warley? It'much cheaper, fairly competitive (in a good way) and showcases work by Britain's best modellers! Even better, Messrs. Ando and Waterman, both with many years of experience in front of a camera and microphone could present. Edited February 16, 2018 by Peter Crawford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Yes, if it was to be a documentary, but I don't think that is what is envisioned by the production company..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2018 Thanks Rob Now to find 5 more people for our team. In 9 days planing and building a model railway is going to be enough of a challenge, and for six people to agree on one theme in that time is even a bigger challenge. Who is up for it? Me..................................................................as long as I can see Phil's Badger after a hard day arguing and have a Sound Engineer put her hands up my shirt. Ummmmmmm. T. Ekky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2018 Come on guys I gave you a small challenge the under gubbins on a Class 309 MBSK, you are all serious modellers. Between you must have some helpful information. I am not asking for stuff about a one off steam loco that puffed twice and as scrapped but for information on nearly 30 trains that saw service for over 35 years. so far.png This all I can find. No wonder most railway modellers will not share with their work mates that they are modellers. I have always found people when they know are very receptive and accept me with my hobby. Even asking me what part of the country had I been to go and see trains at the weekend when I return to work on a Monday. As I have said this is a great platform to show the nation that we are normal lasses and blokes who enjoy a great hobby. I went to Chelsford once and I think I did a little bit of video, don't think 309 though also no idea where the tape is. Pretty sure not on the hard drive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Maybe the 309s deserve a thread of their own... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 9 days to build a complete layout? There's plenty of layouts on here been going for 9 years ad still not even close to finished! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The average amount of time it takes to build a layout is probably 5-10 years (to exhibitable condition), though exceptions exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Crawford Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The average amount of time it takes to build a layout is probably 5-10 years (to exhibitable condition), though exceptions exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 The average amount of time it takes to build a layout is probably 5-10 years (to exhibitable condition), though exceptions exist. Oh sh*t! I've got a layout due out in 10 weeks and there's no track laid yet... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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