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Received my Biffa and ‘One’ liveried sheds today.

 

Dont think I’ve felt so scared when opening model railway boxes before..


Nameplates were wonky on both, and one of the front handrails is floating as per my other two. A loose pipe in the box of the ‘One’ loco, not sure where off but I’ll figure out when I can be bothered.

 

Yet to run either, but the bogies on the Biffa one have a lot of glue marks and one of the axle boxes is caked in the stuff.

 

Livery application on both is generally good to my eyes. Being a bit critical I’d say the ‘Zero Injuries’ branding on 66587 isnt the best.

 

To summarise, as per my last two, I’d say the model is definitely an upgrade on the Bachmann offering but let down by some pee poor QC. Will be ordering the Cemex next and would have had the orange FL but for it being the wrong shade, cant understand that one.

 

Off to test.... Happy Modelling! 
 

EDIT: Upon closer inspection one of the buffers was missing from 66587. Will use the spare provided.

 

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11 minutes ago, chris37422 said:

Received my Biffa and ‘One’ liveried sheds today.

 

Dont think I’ve felt so scared when opening model railway boxes before..


Nameplates were wonky on both, and one of the front handrails is floating as per my other two. A loose pipe in the box of the ‘One’ loco, not sure where off but I’ll figure out when I can be bothered.

 

Yet to run either, but the bogies on the Biffa one have a lot of glue marks and one of the axle boxes is caked in the stuff.

 

Livery application on both is generally good to my eyes. Being a bit critical I’d say the ‘Zero Injuries’ branding on 66587 isnt the best.

 

To summarise, as per my last two, I’d say the model is definitely an upgrade on the Bachmann offering but let down by some pee poor QC. Will be ordering the Cemex next and would have had the orange FL but for it being the wrong shade, cant understand that one.

 

Off to test.... Happy Modelling! 

 


My Biffa arrived this afternoon and is going straight back to Hattons tomorrow (nameplates not aligned correctly and loose fuel tank) Not impressed at all. 

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14 minutes ago, chris37422 said:

Will be ordering the Cemex next and would have had the orange FL but for it being the wrong shade, cant understand that one.

 

I got the Cemex and ONE, both going back but to expedite things I ordered replacements today and will just get refunded for the other two. Was hoping that they'd have got the FL orange right or I'd have probably had one of those too. I aren't really wanting for GBRF stuff but the Cemex livery is cool.

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13 minutes ago, shunny said:

DSC_0644_4.JPG.abc73703522352b56bf91659285f91d5.JPGI got mine today and have to say very pleased everything in place and looking good!

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I was really happy with mine like that, best runner and condition H66 I have had but one of the lights wouldn't work

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That looks stunning.So tonight's session Cemex running like a dream lost no axle boxes yet and runs smoothly Biff's Derailed again two or three times until it dropped two axle boxes leading bogie center and rear axles once these are gone it runs perfectly do I might cut them down and glue in place if that's a fix as you can't really see them turning anyway

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Whilst the colour is not correct on Freightliner 66623 on a positive note I can report no glue marks and all the axle boxes are present.  I have given it a good run for 30 minutes in each direction and everything runs smoothly with everything remaining in place. i will be keeping this model simply because it’s still a good base model for repaint. I am happy with the visual appearance of 66587 and 66780. I have just not had chance to run them  yet. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Got 66587,66623 and 66780 with sound today but no 66783,no sound fitted Biffas here yet by Hattons

I have the sound class 66783 flying dustman from Hattons. It’s on my YouTube site under Penrith road if u want to have a look. 

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54 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

It seems they just open there mouths and let the wind blow there tongue around,i questioned them this morning as to why i had not recived it and was told only non DCC was here.Ive had it ordered from May last year,thanks for letting me know.As a point of interest how long had you had it preordered??

 

I preordered the loco as soon as hattons announced the item 

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Hi all, 

 

I wonder if anyone could help me please?

 

Has anyone bought any of the latest batch of 66s that arrived this week (587, 623, 743, 746, 780 or 783) and have had no issues or faults with them and were fine running straight out of the box? Or are the quality control issues that were identified in batch one, still present in the second batch? 

 

I ask because personally I'm not interested in having to return models in order to try and find a good one, and I would just like a model that functions properly and has all the parts and detailing intact straight out of the box. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Thank you in advance. 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Danny. 

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Received my 4 today. Biffa/Cemex/One/Freightliner.

 

All run perfectly in both directions (20+mins), no derailments, bits falling off etc. Very slight wobble but we know why that is and its not bothering me.

 

The Freightliner orange is clearly too light but much deeper than the photos on the website show. I can live with it.

It appears that Hatton's and Bachmann have both got their shade of orange the wrong way round for the respective loco numbers. Stand to be corrected.

 

Clearly there is still a QC issue as others have pointed out but just wanted to add balance. Maybe I got lucky.....

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12 hours ago, TomScrut said:

Is there anybody on here got one of the new batch and NOT got a Cemex one? Seems to be the most popular one from what I can see on the comments

 

I have ONE. All I can say is, it's very pink.

 

(And the above is not a euphemism, so don't even go there)

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13 minutes ago, Nick G said:

 

Does it perform properly?

 

(And the above is not a euphemism, so don't even go there)

 

One has not yet checked ONEs' performance, but when one does, One will let you know if ONE is ok or not.

One has had a quick fiddle with ONE's twiddly bits and they certainly seemed to be not suffering from excess sticky white stuff.

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I have 66789 which is an excellent example and good runner, although it was exchanged after the first one had derailment issues.

 

On the back of this I decided to order three of the new models, my Cemex version although has no cosmetic issues is a poor runner, think I'll remove and replace all the AB's. One has actually fallen out and has flash around the box on the edge so that's not a good start, possibky oithers are the same.  

 

My One variant seems cosmetically good and not a bad runner, so that's positive.

 

More interesting is my Freightliner G&W which had the ladder missing, it's broken off in the box, but one of the AB's has not been painted, or was missing and has had a standard black one fitted as a replacement, not impressed.... 

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I was quite negative about my 'ONE' model the other day, I was disappointed when I went to test it and three of the axel boxes were super glued to the bogie, meaning the motor couldn't turn the wheels, but now I have sorted that and most of the excess super glue, white residue is brushed off I'm very happy with the model, it might have a few quality issues but nobody else is producing models to this standard yet, so there are bound to be a few teething problems. I added a Modelu driver which is brilliant too.

 

 

Richard

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2 hours ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said:

780

 

A mate not on this forum got a DCC fitted 780 and seems perfect other than the ability of his Hornby select to change the address on the decoder. I'd expect this to be more down to the controller than the decoder though given the rep these have.

 

My 587 would have been perfect to anyone not using a 10 function decoder assuming they were willing to stick one of the pipe assemblies back onto the body. Running wise it was perfect. Unfortunately as I have said already it's going back due to at least one light not working on the 10 function settings.

 

Statistically for me I am sending 2/2 of this batch back, as opposed to 1/2 of the last batch. But that doesn't tell the full story IMO, I do think that some lessons have been learned. My 780 just had a bit too much glue on it that's the only reason it's going back, I didn't run it but given one of the axle box covers would not turn I wouldn't have had high hopes.

 

On the other hand from the first batch 756 (which I kept first time) and either 789 (first one sent back because of similar lighting issue to 780) could have been sent back on running grounds and bits fallen off alone but I persisted.

 

I do genuinely think from what I have read too that things do seem better.

 

Anyway 2 more coming Monday so hopefully those will be there to stay. The liveries on 587 and 780 are great I think. It's just a shame 623 is the wrong colour or I'd probably be hankering after one of them.

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I've had 623, and since sent it back. Wrong colour, loose Ab's, wonky ladder and ran sporadically.. Fine at slow speeds but when it was increased it kept stopping and then going.. (DCC fitted by Hattons.. )

 

587 arrived later in the day as a present.  No excess glue on AB's. Has a wobble on one bogie and derails in either direction.

So  I expect that one to go back too, unless the wobbly bogie is an easy fix.. 

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Opened my 'ONE' 66587 last night, I had to have this one as it's such an in your face livery and it'll make the steam boys at the club get the sunglasses out! 

First impressions on opening the box were good, but that quickly went downhill. I'll be contacting today for a replacement due to damage to the etched grilles and handrails, flash/obstruction/misshape on the front of the chassis block at No.1 end which prevents the bufferbeam from sitting flush, and the worst case of wonky wheels/rough riding I've ever seen on a diesel loco. This could be due to the axle boxes being glued on askew in various directions, as the bogies have a fair amount of white super glue misting (doesn't really show on pics) and super glue debris around the axleboxes where they meet the wheels, and in the axle holes. The motor has a bit of a squeal in one direction when starting off too. Several underframe parts loose in the box also, which I don't mind sticking back on.. but I can't fix some of it and theres just too many issues, so this one will have to go back. I'll try another before I give up. The livery is very well applied and the cab interiors are nice, I like the interchangeable bufferbeams too, but this is let down by really poor assembly/QC on the fundamental stuff, and I'm forced to say I'm pretty disappointed. 

 

The one other comment I'd make is that to access the lighting function switches you have to remove the body, which is flimsy and drags off the bodyside steps and details glued to the lower body as they're at 90 degrees to it.  Can't do anything about that, these parts should be on the chassis not the body. The plastic grille inserts on the block fell off whilst this too, and I wouldn't recommend removing the body unless you really have to. There was no packing in my shipping box either, so the loco box was just rattling around inside which may have caused some of the issues I have. 

 

Honest opinion, I hope the replacement is OK or fixable. Few pics below if anyone is interested.

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Hi everyone,

 

Has anyone contacted Hattons for spare/replacement axle covers and received them?

 

My first model had 2 missing which I phoned and a really friendly lady made a note to get them sent. I followed up a couple of months after on the email chat and was told they would come when they had some. My new model that came this week had one middle axle glued on and looking underneath you could see this had split during assembly so I used the chat again to ask for a spare. 
 

I was just curious as I see a couple of posts saying they had them. I didn’t really want to send models back for something that I can fix.

 

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The mark of a company is how it deals with stuff when it goes wrong.

 

And thus far they seem to have lost the plot. The number of returns from the first lot must have been massive - why didn’t they stop producing them at that point and sort the issues. Not keep churning them out, and “ contact customer services if you have a problem “.

 

I’m furloughed ( still ) and I’ll go and inspect 66s for £10/ hr plus vat,if they want .

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48 minutes ago, Lochnagar said:

First impressions on opening the box were good, but that quickly went downhill. I'll be contacting today for a replacement due to damage to the etched grilles and handrails, flash/obstruction/misshape on the front of the chassis block at No.1 end which prevents the bufferbeam from sitting flush, and the worst case of wonky wheels/rough riding I've ever seen on a diesel loco.

Funny you should mention chassis shaping/ moulding issues. I’ve just noticed that my 66746 has mis shaped jacking points on one side. These are part of the metal casting so have they had a dodgy run of chassis at some point? Both jacking points on one side are like this (picture 1) but the other side is fine (picture 2). These are the widest part of the casting though so could explain why only the jacking points are damaged.

 

Just thought it was interesting when you brought up chassis issues. It’s not bad enough for me to send the model back or anything especially since it runs as nicely and looks the part other than this admittedly very minor issue.

 

We will just call it character :P

 

Picture 1 (Damaged jacking point)

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Picture 2 (Good jacking point)

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I am going to state the obvious but these are really disappointing both for us and hattons. My large logo one went back a while ago and I really fancy an Ews one but the issues keep coming. I am sure hattons are as gutted as we are but probably don’t want to comment publicly. I realise some of the issues such as poor running wouldn’t be obvious until they are on the track but just take them out of the box and take a look before you send and some of the other issues such as nameplates/ glue marks and suchlike may have been picked up before despatch.

I will await batch 3 before I decide whether to buy or not and even then will not pre order until they have arrived and feedback from others seen.
 

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I must have got a good one, 66756 from the first batch. No issues other than an axle box which fell off. I have not yet attempted to re- attach this as I have other projects on the go. My big worry is that I will have to remove the body at some stage to fit a driver...

 

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