RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) On 26/04/2019 at 12:56, MGR Hooper! said: The latest blog is up.... Featuring the Mk2F coaches https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/large-prairie-mk2f-big-boy It looks to me that Hornby still hasn’t got the Blue/Grey livery right - the grey band is either too low round the windows or the blue is too deep above them. Either that or the windows are too deep. The same mistake as with the Mk2e? EDIT: Being corrected; see update in post below Edited April 29, 2019 by brushman47544 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, brushman47544 said: It looks to me that Hornby still hasn’t got the Blue/Grey livery right - the grey band is either too low round the windows or the blue is too deep above them. Either that or the windows are too deep. The same mistake as with the Mk2e? I don’t think they look too bad. The light shining on the gutter rail in the Blog images makes the blue band look deeper than it really is. Comparing with door handles and vents, the light grey looks right. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted April 28, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2019 I think they are now extended to December 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2019 19 hours ago, brushman47544 said: It looks to me that Hornby still hasn’t got the Blue/Grey livery right - the grey band is either too low round the windows or the blue is too deep above them. Either that or the windows are too deep. The same mistake as with the Mk2e? 15 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: I don’t think they look too bad. The light shining on the gutter rail in the Blog images makes the blue band look deeper than it really is. Comparing with door handles and vents, the light grey looks right. Roy I raised this issue by PM and have been advised that the Engine Shed photo gives the impression of the grey area being incorrect due to a fault in the manufacturing process (the body is warped). This has been noted as part of the ongoing manufacturing check process, and will be corrected. Good to see time being taken to get the model right. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) The Scotrail spot livery looks a lot better than their effort with their spotrail class 156.... Edited April 29, 2019 by Andy Mac 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 It was nice to see the 2F samples today think they look really good especially at the price point. The Scotrail livery looks good which is what I’m planning to get a set of. cheers Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) They also don't appear to have corrected the supersize Roevac roof vents, which were about twice the width they should have been on the Mk2e coaches! Edited April 29, 2019 by mark54 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart2day Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Not long to wait. According to Hornby, the Scotrail and Intercitys are on their way over. https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/coming-soon.html? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I see some of these have made it to the shops, any reviews or thoughts yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I have a Hornby BSO and Bachmann TSO. The most obvious difference is in the colours. The Hornby light grey has a more yellow/ brown tinge to it. The red and white bands on the Hornby version are narrower and they are broken where they go over door handles. As far as the body mouldings go, it is difficult to say which is best, some of the moulding on the Hornby version is sharper than Bachmann's, but on other details Bachmann are better. The Bachmann bogies are better mouldings, with better detail than Hornby. If I was to guess, I would say that the Hornby bogies are from an older moulding, they just don't look as good as the body. Overall, I would say that the Hornby version would win on value for money but the Bachmann version is better because of the bogies and the livery finish. This is not an objective review, just my observations from looking at two different versions side by side. Whilst I probably won't buy any more of the intercity versions, I will probably buy the Scotrail ones. Regards Roddy 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2019 I hope that the DRS versions are done in the next batch by Hornby or Bachmann but time will tell. Given the large following of the Class 37’s and Mk 2F’s used Cumbrian Coast services and the GA short sets, bit of a no brainier for me. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted July 22, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2019 Hi all, I wonder if anyone could help me please? Just seen on a new Hattons article on their website the six BR Blue & Grey MK2Fs. Can anyone tell me if this is the same colour as the rake that usually resides at Burton for use on railtours and that currently forms the Cardiff loco hauled sets, pulled by Colas 37s? I'm not bothered if the numbers that Hattons have chosen to model are not the same as the coaches used on the workings I have mentioned. I just want to know if the colours are the same and if I could use them to model prototypical modern workings. Thank you very much in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Will these mix in ok with my Hornby ( ex Dapol ) 2Es on cross country stuff in the IV swallow era ? Seems silly to pursue more of the ancient tooling if these are ok to mix in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 i think Hornby are fubbered to change the lower colour now as it will mismatch what has already been released. for value for money they are amazing though at just £30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnfromoz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I would be interested to see a side by side comparison to the Hornby Mark 2e..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 hours ago, rob D2 said: Will these mix in ok with my Hornby ( ex Dapol ) 2Es on cross country stuff in the IV swallow era ? Seems silly to pursue more of the ancient tooling if these are ok to mix in Hornby did Mk.2E coaches themselves. Dapol didn't. Airfix/Dapol did the Mk.2D which Hornby then produced after they bought the tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnfromoz said: I would be interested to see a side by side comparison to the Hornby Mark 2e..... It's most likely to be identical sans the solebar. They've been made using existing design and research from the Mk.2E and the models are aimed at a segment lower than the high spec Bachmann on and yet above the usual Hornby RailRoad range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looking on Hattons they don’t appear to have the sole bar issue of the E coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 And looks like an improved shade of Executive Light Grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Angus Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Here's a picture of the Bachmann TSO and the Hornby BSO side by side. The light grey on the Hornby model is slightly lighter and you can see the difference in the size of the red stripe. The Bachmann model is in InterCity livery whilst the Hornby is Intercity Executive. The Hornby Mk2f does not suffer from the Mk2e solebar issues, at least my BSO does not. Hope that this is helpful for others. Regards Roddy 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Roddy Angus said: Here's a picture of the Bachmann TSO and the Hornby BSO side by side. The light grey on the Hornby model is slightly lighter and you can see the difference in the size of the red stripe. The Bachmann model is in InterCity livery whilst the Hornby is Intercity Executive. The Hornby Mk2f does not suffer from the Mk2e solebar issues, at least my BSO does not. Hope that this is helpful for others. Regards Roddy That is a very useful comparison shot, thanks for posting. IIRC the shades of both Executive Light Grey and Executive Dark Grey on coaching stock didn't change when the lettering was changed to INTERCITY. Shades are all different from the various model manufacturers, and of course they always will be, so I guess the only way to get some uniformity on the layout is to repaint them all (at least just the light grey sections) which I intend to sometime! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said: Hornby did Mk.2E coaches themselves. Dapol didn't. Airfix/Dapol did the Mk.2D which Hornby then produced after they bought the tooling. Sorry, yes, I have 2D then. I have 4 so I could buy 3 higher spec Fs and we have a rake 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On the subject of depths thicknesses etc, found this on my wanderings thru Flickr... Useful? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, westie7 said: On the subject of depths thicknesses etc, found this on my wanderings thru Flickr... Useful? Useful photo, thanks for posting. Looking along the train to the first carriage, and It looks as if Hornby have got the Executive Light Grey a lot better than their previous efforts. But (and there's always a "but" isn't there?!) their ELG band above the windows is too wide. Edited July 23, 2019 by cravensdmufan Change of word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Do they have the 'fat' wrongly-shaped Roevac roof vents (like the 2e) or have Hornby corrected these? Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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