Andy Y Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Hornby have announced new tooling for the LMS 20T brake van. R6907 LMS, D1919 20T Brake Van, 730176 - Era 3 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6907A LMS, D1919 20T Brake Van, 730473 - Era 3 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6909 BR, D2068 20T Brake Van, M731456 - Era 4 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6909A BR, D2068 20T Brake Van, M731792 - Era 4 Due Date: Sep-19 RRP: £22.99 Early 3D print samples were on display in Dec 2018. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Fantastic! Can't come soon enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The iconic Grouping Brake Vans have been finished off at last...!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 Thanks Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Fantastic - a sound and pragmatic move, I'll take four without hesitation. Done well, as I'm sure they will be, these should turn out to be a really popular, widespread and long-lived - almost taken-for-granted - addition to the range. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I'll echo that taken for granted...I completely missed this when I first read through. Now I can finally think about putting those ancient Airfix and GMR vans out to pasture. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 At last a prototype that could be seen nationwide and never properly captured in model form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Personally the highlight of the announcement. If they are as good as the LNER brake van then I'll be getting about half a dozen. Psst. Can we have a pair of Merseyrail ones? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98664-merseyrail-brake-van-at-allerton-tmd/page-1 Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hornby have announced new tooling for the LMS 20T brake van. LMS20T brake.JPG R6907 LMS, D1919 20T Brake Van, 730176 - Era 3 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6907A LMS, D1919 20T Brake Van, 730473 - Era 3 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6909 BR, D2068 20T Brake Van, M731456 - Era 4 Due Date: Oct-19 RRP: £22.99 R6909A BR, D2068 20T Brake Van, M731792 - Era 4 Due Date: Sep-19 RRP: £22.99 Early 3D print samples were on display in Dec 2018. LMS20T.jpg Preview 2019 - Press - PDF-174.jpg Nice to see both ducket widths and two ballast box variants too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2019 This is most welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Nice to see both ducket widths and two ballast box variants too. And the two types of brake gear on the drawings. Single shoe for the early ones and and double shoe for the later builds. I just hope they now understand that UK models need to have 26mm long axles and W irons the proper distance apart. Getting P4 wheels into the HAA and Shark is somewhat challenging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 I just hope they now understand that UK models need to have 26mm long axles and W irons the proper distance apart. Where are the "eternal optimist", "you must be joking" and "don't hold your breath" icons when you need them? (Other manufacturers are available who are just as clueless). Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHunter Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are these different to the Bachmann model? As an LMS modeller I don't profess much knowledge of brake vans, but would like something a bit different like a midland single varanda, or one of the other constituent companies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are these different to the Bachmann model? As an LMS modeller I don't profess much knowledge of brake vans, but would like something a bit different like a midland single varanda, or one of the other constituent companies. Bachmann do not produce any model of this vehicle type. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are these different to the Bachmann model? As an LMS modeller I don't profess much knowledge of brake vans, but would like something a bit different like a midland single varanda, or one of the other constituent companies. The Bachmann example is a separate diagram to what Hornby is doing. Bachmann's model is based upon the earlier Midland Railway D1568 and LMS D1659 examples. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are these different to the Bachmann model? As an LMS modeller I don't profess much knowledge of brake vans, but would like something a bit different like a midland single varanda, or one of the other constituent companies. They're longer than the earlier design, I believe, and were built from the mid-1930s into BR days. There was an example based at Burry Port for use on the BP&GV line, which had narrow footboards, a short chimney, and lettered 'For Use on BP&GV Only' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are these different to the Bachmann model? As an LMS modeller I don't profess much knowledge of brake vans, but would like something a bit different like a midland single varanda, or one of the other constituent companies. The Bachmann model portrays what was effectively the first 'standard' brake van built by the LMS from 1923 without duckets and from 1926 with duckets, although based on a Midland design; a very brutalised simplification, but its the easiest way to sum up that model. This iteration as announced by Hornby is of the standard LMS brake van which originated in 1935, and is a very different vehicle. An LMS (or BR(M) for that matter) layout can happily utilise both models in multiple numbers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2019 Great news!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 https://buckiemodelcentre.com/shop/20-ton-brake-van-br-airfix-gmr-54362-2/ be nice if this livery can be considered some time Well, the van's not in the shops yet - but the ducket's already available : https://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/24-trainer-yellow-matt-14ml-enamel-paint.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHunter Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The Bachmann model portrays what was effectively the first 'standard' brake van built by the LMS from 1923 without duckets and from 1926 with duckets, although based on a Midland design; a very brutalised simplification, but its the easiest way to sum up that model. This iteration as announced by Hornby is of the standard LMS brake van which originated in 1935, and is a very different vehicle. An LMS (or BR(M) for that matter) layout can happily utilise both models in multiple numbers. Great, thanks for clarifying, currently got 8 of the Bachmann ones with and without duckets and in both grey and bauxite. Looks like I'll be adding some Hornby ones then! My point still stands that the Midland single varanda one would be nice to see RTR as would some of the other constituent companies, but a very welcome addition. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) There is a short but closer look at the engineering sample of the LMS 20T brake van at about 30 seconds in on this: The full vid is also a separate topic in the Hornby list here on RMWeb. Edited January 8, 2019 by MartinTrucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2019 Camper van anyone? http://www.railwaystationcottages.co.uk/railway-guards-van-doldowlod-old-station-caravan-park/ Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Camper van anyone? http://www.railwaystationcottages.co.uk/railway-guards-van-doldowlod-old-station-caravan-park/ Phil Might have to wait a while before Hornby are desperate enough to produce that livery variant ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2019 Camper van anyone? http://www.railwaystationcottages.co.uk/railway-guards-van-doldowlod-old-station-caravan-park/ Phil Might have to wait a while before Hornby are desperate enough to produce that livery variant ! New Cakebox Challenge? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I will join the 'very welcome' chorus. This is the one item in Hornby's 2019 announcement I will be purchasing as soon as available (very thin year for Doncaster/ER interest) as these were ubiquitous on BR throughout steam operations. Now, I really should get around to knocking one of my ex-Airfix pair into 'reverse Stanier' form. (Been on my to do list forever...) The other one can get properly beaten up as most LMR equipment was, and the Hornby can be a particularly sparkling specimen that was some lucky guard's pet until it got 'took away'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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