mckinneyc Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hopefully show the LNER and its constituents more love. A new D49 to consign the current one to the Railroad range and be a stable mate to their Q6 and J36 would get my preorders 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 03/12/2019 at 10:45, wombatofludham said: It would be nice if Hornby celebrated it's "100th" anniversary by continuing the trend started last year of going back to it's roots, and producing contemporary items to appeal to younger models. In the past they produced models like the APT and Class 58 before the real things hit the rails, so this year it would be a good idea to produce something like their 800 in TPE or Hell Trains liveries, plus a Greater Anglia bi-mode Flirt, which with two identical articulated passenger areas and a centre "power pack" in which to hide the motor, plus being bi-mode, would bound to be an attractive model that ought not to cost a huge amount to tool up for. Won't say it won't happen, but it would be dangerous to announce a Flirt at the moment given the uncertainty around future versions and any modifications they may need. Far better to wait a short period before doing tooling so you can accommodate all the variations that appear and thus get a better return on the tooling costs. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't already come to agreement behind the scenes to do the Flirts at some point. On 03/12/2019 at 15:39, wombatofludham said: I think our Welsh Flirts will be split between 11 diesel only and 24 tri-mode, electric, battery and diesel, in a mix of 3 and 4 car. It suggests that they will externally at least be identical to the AGA units, I expect they will be the same to allow for a quicker entry into service, no need to go through any new approval process other than clearances and possibly an approval for the battery option. Possibly/likely to have external changes to accommodate the batteries, the most obvious change being to make space for the batteries (whether it be underneath or a longer power pack). Large battery packs also tend to need cooling/ventilation, which may require changes to the shell depending on where the batteries (and the associated electronics/equipment for charging) are located. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 hours ago, The Johnster said: Current Bachmann prices for 57xx and 8750 are £114.95, and the 56xx, arguably more loco than the 94xx, comes in at the same price for the black liveried version, £119.95 for fully lined BR. 1Fs and Jinties are sub £100, by 5p, and the 1P is not priced yet. Like the 94xx (£124.95), prototype pictures of this loco are shown in the online catalogue. All older items that have already paid off their tooling. And sadly tooling costs are rarely proportional to the size of the models given how relatively little different there is in model form. 8 hours ago, The Johnster said: The nearest comparable loco in the Hornby range is probably the J50, a very well reviewed item and well up to the standard of the Bachmanns in both detail and running; it probably pulls better. Hornby are able to knock it out and presumably make enough profit for their bus fare and a bag of chips on the way home for just shy of £90. I see no reason why a Hornby 94xx needs to be much more than a tenner over that, Again, older item, and arguably Hornby are failing to make enough profit on it given the rather large losses Hornby keeps posting year after year. And also currently lists for £94 on Hornby's website. Also note last year's Peckett B2 at £110 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwicksfinest Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Got to have another run of the Network Rail HST power Cars And PLEASE PLEASE another run of the Inter City DVTs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2020 is also 40 series since the children's series, God's Wonderful Railway was aired: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God's_Wonderful_Railway A manor was quite prominant in the last 3 episodes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I think the way to look at it is, that its a big anniversary, so there will be a few specials. I think it really depends how Hornby want to celebrate, as in new toolings and looking ahead, or looking back at its Heritage, or maybe even a bit of both. Afterall, they have to satisfy shareholders and New Tools sell best! The most iconic and best sellers have been the A3/A4 so would expect that to feature somehow, and possibly Mr Kohlers favourite - the 0-4-0? The APT for modern modellers and seeing that Hornby used to do one, could be a possibility - just if so, I hope they have come up with a suitable pantograph option. Re-introduction of the Rocket? A celebratory HST pack? Who knows perhaps there could even be a naming, in partnership with a TOC? I think if they do limited editions, then 1000 is too much, and is more than a standard production run, if you look in the 2016 handbook where they state a lower number - I think it says 600-800 is typical. Regarding modern items then a pair of 50's in GBRf would go well. Class 87, then Original Intercity is perhaps the way to go? Class 60 - GBRF would be a popular one. A modern wagon, would really go towards challenging some of the newer market entrants. At the end of the day, if you do the locos, why not develop the rolling stock range? Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'm looking forward to seeing the colourful new liveries of Pecketts, particularly the 0-6-0Ts as none of the released liveries quite took my fancy. Whilst I am more interested in which liveries the next lot of Rails terriers will be in (hoping for Fenchurch as preserved as per the O gauge release), Hornby's choices have been less predictable so I am interested to see their new liveries. Someone else has mentioned Bulleids in crimson/cream - this must be a shoe in! Especially with a blue Merchant Navy on the way. I'd quite like to see them produce some W or S numbered Mk1s in this livery too, but find that as these regions had their own strong identities, crimson/cream Mk1s in model form tend to get the E or M numbers (though Bachmann did do a limited number of Ws a while back). As for new stuff tooling? I have found it increasingly hard to predict. Best guess would be a Manor or a SR Q. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I think it would be nice, and relatively easy for Hornby to produce an as-preserved 850 Lord Nelson, in preserved green livery. Al. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 9 hours ago, atom3624 said: I think it would be nice, and relatively easy for Hornby to produce an as-preserved 850 Lord Nelson, in preserved green livery. Al. If that is with smoke deflectors, 'SOUTHERN 850' on tender, Red cabside plaque and in Malachite Green then definitely seconded here! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 That's the one, yes!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 18:22, JSpencer said: 2020 is also 40 series since the children's series, God's Wonderful Railway was aired: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God's_Wonderful_Railway A manor was quite prominant in the last 3 episodes. Now now!. Don't be making me feel old... Available on DVD for about a tenner. Well worth it. Probably the most accurate TV portrayals of railways I've seen. Funny that it was made for kids. A clip for those who don't know it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBWLVcoDvU Pssst. The most memorable thing in the whole series is in that clip of the kid getting upset about the locomotive going through at night something like "that's not one of ours!". I can tell him now it was 8233. A new 8F is needed, the current version is looking very dated in some aspects. I think Shannon is highly unlikely. Or should that be Highley.... Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Now now!. Don't be making me feel old... Available on DVD for about a tenner. Well worth it. Probably the most accurate TV portrayals of railways I've seen. Funny that it was made for kids. A clip for those who don't know it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBWLVcoDvU Pssst. The most memorable thing in the whole series is in that clip of the kid getting upset about the locomotive going through at night something like "that's not one of ours!". I can tell him now it was 8233. A new 8F is needed, the current version is looking very dated in some aspects. I think Shannon is highly unlikely. Or should that be Highley.... Jason I do also think Hornby's Stanier 5MT needs an update as well, plus that way we can also get the Stephonson Valve Gear and Caprotti Valve Gear variants as rn they only have one variant available in the tooling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldomtom2 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 05/12/2019 at 19:04, dogbox321 said: and possibly Mr Kohlers favourite - the 0-4-0? Three-pack containing the ex-Thomas 0-4-0 in three separate liveries - Great Northern, Midland, and LNWR, commemorating Hornby's fine history of producing fictitious 0-4-0s in brightly coloured liveries! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 22 hours ago, Opelsi said: If that is with smoke deflectors, 'SOUTHERN 850' on tender, Red cabside plaque and in Malachite Green then definitely seconded here! this would be brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Retooled Black 5 that includes the Caprotti locos. I'd be happy enough with that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) With Hornby currently chucking Harry Potter stuff at us I believe it would be amazing to see 34027 Taw valley in Hogwarts red. Edited December 7, 2019 by MrJack47790 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MrJack47790 said: this would be brilliant! So long as they don't go and spoil it with a weathered or gloss finish! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Opelsi said: So long as they don't go and spoil it with a weathered or gloss finish! The finish needs to be matt or satin, can't be weathered. Edited December 7, 2019 by MrJack47790 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) On 05/12/2019 at 19:04, dogbox321 said: I think the way to look at it is, that its a big anniversary, so there will be a few specials. I think it really depends how Hornby want to celebrate, as in new toolings and looking ahead, or looking back at its Heritage, or maybe even a bit of both. Afterall, they have to satisfy shareholders and New Tools sell best! The most iconic and best sellers have been the A3/A4 so would expect that to feature somehow, and possibly Mr Kohlers favourite - the 0-4-0? The APT for modern modellers and seeing that Hornby used to do one, could be a possibility - just if so, I hope they have come up with a suitable pantograph option. Re-introduction of the Rocket? A celebratory HST pack? Who knows perhaps there could even be a naming, in partnership with a TOC? I think if they do limited editions, then 1000 is too much, and is more than a standard production run, if you look in the 2016 handbook where they state a lower number - I think it says 600-800 is typical. Regarding modern items then a pair of 50's in GBRf would go well. Class 87, then Original Intercity is perhaps the way to go? Class 60 - GBRF would be a popular one. A modern wagon, would really go towards challenging some of the newer market entrants. At the end of the day, if you do the locos, why not develop the rolling stock range? Regards, C. According to Mr Kohler the APT mould have destroyed , I would love a new tooling but probably won't happen anytime soon. I can still dream! Also to go with a class 60 a cheaper, more readily available Drax biomass wagon would be great. For HST pack they could model the LNER BR original coloured HST as will be used on the LNER HST farewell tour. Edited December 7, 2019 by MrJack47790 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MrJack47790 said: With Hornby currently chucking Harry Potter stuff at us I believe it would be amazing to see 34027 Taw valley in Hogwarts red. Please dear god no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Please dear god no. OH YES! Edited December 7, 2019 by MrJack47790 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, MrJack47790 said: OH YES! Never knew that existed!!! Now that I've seen it, I'd love to have one. Since they now have the license, it'll be a waste not to do it. I'm sure many would want one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Also the class 802 in TPE or Hull trains would be good. But not as much as I want the in this colour- East midland railway purple-the future for the real railway and hopefully model form. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJack47790 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Hornby hit the jackpot modelling the class 800 with the potential liveries 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MrJack47790 said: According to Mr Kohler the APT mould have destroyed , I would love a new tooling but probably won't happen anytime soon. I can still dream! Also to go with a class 60 a cheaper, more readily available Drax biomass wagon would be great. For HST pack they could model the LNER BR original coloured HST as will be used on the LNER HST farewell tour. Yes an original BR Blue HST re-release would be wonderful. The more I think the more I'm thinking/hoping/imagining this could be a release of several iconic trains from the ages. For the D&E era an early AC electric, the original blue/yellow HST, the APT (from DJ Models CADs perhaps?), the IEP in new liveries and I can't help wonder if a 91 will also appear, albeit probably not a new tooling given the Cavalex model. A kind of 'trains through the ages' set of releases to celebrate several key events/anniversaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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