rope runner Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 28/05/2020 at 22:01, cctransuk said: I was point-blank declared 'persona non grata'; ie. he will no longer speak to me at all. 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: IYHO, not mine! Yes, you've made that quite clear... This thread has rumbled on at a low level for years. There's nothing new here and largely speaking it is the same few posters grumbling along... Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 9 hours ago, rope runner said: Yes, you've made that quite clear... This thread has rumbled on at a low level for years. There's nothing new here and largely speaking it is the same few posters grumbling along... Paul A. My reading of recent posts is almost exclusively positive towards Markits - which is fine as a reflection of personal experience. CJI. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Many years ago I phoned Markits and caught Mark in expansive mood. We had a very long and friendly chat (he didn't know me from Adam) and I was told several anecdotes about his work with mainstream manufacturers in terms of supplying dossiers of prototype information to assist the accuracy of a couple of their planned new models. What he revealed became fact in due course but, of course, as far as I am aware, he received no public thanks from the manufacturers concerned (red and blue boxes). Possibly he was recompensed as a consultant - I hope so - but we can probably credit Mark with contributing significantly to the improvements in the standard and fidelity of some introductions in recent years. Personally, I think the guy's a one-man marvel, given the size of the Markits catalogue. If he decides one day to hang up the "closed" sign on the Markits door, I just hope that those who've brushed against his rougher side will drop him a PM to thank him for the work he's done over the years to make our hobby more satisfying and our models more accurate. I have no more commendation than to declare myself "a satisfied (if occasionally frustrated) customer". Stan 5 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I am also a satisfied customer. If you don't get the service that you think you should, then take your money else where. I agree with Stan that for a husband and wife business he carries a very large range. Gordon A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted February 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gordon A said: If you don't get the service that you think you should, then take your money else where. I have. I build on average 4-5 locomotives a year and used Markits wheels and fittings. But after to many orders not being fulfilled properly and having to send product back (at my cost) I gave up. He's a nice enough chap to speak to on the phone, but receiving the wrong goods time and again just isn't good enough. I last ordered from Markits 2-3 years ago and looking at my notes I spent just over £500 in 12 months on 4 orders, not a small sum for any trader. I now use Colin at Alan Gibson and am very happy with the product. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2023 I think I said earlier in this (or one of the other) threads that the two orders I had made both came back wrong and didn't match the agreed pricing. This was a few years ago now. There are some bits that nobody stocks (even when they can get them, retailers seem to have constant difficulty) so I have filled in an order form and sent it with payment details. Totally against payment card industry rules! Fingers crossed :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Bucoops said: I think I said earlier in this (or one of the other) threads that the two orders I had made both came back wrong and didn't match the agreed pricing. This was a few years ago now. There are some bits that nobody stocks (even when they can get them, retailers seem to have constant difficulty) so I have filled in an order form and sent it with payment details. Totally against payment card industry rules! Fingers crossed :) Is there a current price list in existence ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, micklner said: Is there a current price list in existence ?. The online one + the 7%? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Bucoops said: I think I said earlier in this (or one of the other) threads that the two orders I had made both came back wrong and didn't match the agreed pricing. This was a few years ago now. There are some bits that nobody stocks (even when they can get them, retailers seem to have constant difficulty) so I have filled in an order form and sent it with payment details. Totally against payment card industry rules! Fingers crossed :) I think you are quite safe as there have been no reports of trouble, better than getting a postal order that's if they still exist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 21, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, melmerby said: The online one + the 7%? Possibly, but the prices I was told in (?) 2017 didn't match the 2013 catalogue so who knows :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Bucoops said: Possibly, but the prices I was told in (?) 2017 didn't match the 2013 catalogue so who knows :) On my invoice it says the 7% increase in March '22 is on the 2015 prices. However, how do they compare to the 2013 list ? EDIT* Looking at the prices, mine are about 29% higher than those in the 2013 list. On the reverse of the invoice is the Jan 22 "Recent Products" which includes the keyed outside crank system, which needs a miniature axle screwdriver and a 1mm allen key to assemble. But the outside cranks supplied, say they need a miniature screwdriver and a 14BA nut spinner to assemble! * the Aberdare wheels set I bought is £63.95 in the 2013 price list, I was charged £82.41, both include VAT. Edited February 22, 2023 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 hours ago, melmerby said: * the Aberdare wheels set I bought is £63.95 in the 2013 price list, I was charged £82.41, both include VAT. Ouch!!! Now I know why I keep loosing out on wheel bids on eBay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 22, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2023 This is looking promising - I've had an invoice through for approval, so pretty quick to this stage. As an idea of price increase on the 2013 catalogue - BR625xx D16/3 (so complete wheelset for ex GER D16/3) was £52.53, now (10 years later) £67.83 I think that's a little over 25%? Pretty much bang on what the Bank Of England inflation calculator suggests it would be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2023 Ok - credit where credit is thoroughly due - Order has arrived, all correct. Interestingly (and I didn't spot it on the invoice) - the wheels are all nickel silver tyred well after a year since it was announced he would be changing to stainless steel for cost reasons. All the wheels I've had from Wizard have been stainless for quite a while. So, it was worth me plucking up the courage to try again. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bucoops said: Interestingly (and I didn't spot it on the invoice) - the wheels are all nickel silver tyred well after a year since it was announced he would be changing to stainless steel for cost reasons. All the wheels I've had from Wizard have been stainless for quite a while. The ones I had a few weeks ago are N/S for one loco (7 axles) and S/S for the other (3 axles), as per invoice. Gibson wheels are steel and have been for ages. I don't know what grade of N/S Markits uses but they are less yellow than some Romford wheels. Edited February 27, 2023 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2023 Gibson wheels use mild steel - or a grade that rusts. At least the Markits ones are stainless, although there is of course a big price difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted March 1, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2023 Markits switched to stainless steel due to the massive price increase and poor availability of nickel silver. Their driving wheels are very good, with improved fixing/quartering, and probably cheaper than if they had stayed with N/S. Only thing is you can't chemically blacken the stainless. Unless anyone knows otherwise??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Also what is the best method on painting the wheel rims , without the paint falling/chipping off after a week please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Martyn Welch’s solution was to put a coat of thin superglue onto the rims and paint that. No idea how well that will work with stainless steel, but I haven’t heard that it won’t. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 01/03/2023 at 08:02, micklner said: Also what is the best method on painting the wheel rims , without the paint falling/chipping off after a week please ? Mick How about using etching primer first ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 4 hours ago, hayfield said: Mick How about using etching primer first ? Did'nt work for me on previous attempts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, micklner said: Did'nt work for me on previous attempts. Have you tried Black marker pen, (if you want Black of course?). Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) On 01/03/2023 at 08:02, micklner said: Also what is the best method on painting the wheel rims , without the paint falling/chipping off after a week please ? A real problem Mick. I usually use fine wet and dry paper on the wheel rims to help the paint key. It helps but is not a complete solution. I forgot to do this on my current DJH B16/1 build! Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 4, 2023 by 30368 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Mallard60022 said: Have you tried Black marker pen, (if you want Black of course?). Phil Does'nt like any oil on top of the ink, once the Loco is running !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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