Peterborough North

[BMacdermott]

Final Call for Votes: 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.3

 

 

Hello everyone

 

The 'polling station' closes at 17.00, with Results due tomorrow (Friday 4 June).

 

Full details are on page 1312, but a reminder for those who may have overlooked voting…

1. You may vote for two of the ‘car types’, plus four of the Passenger Brake Vans, plus one of the TPOs. Seven votes total available. You cannot ‘transfer votes’!

2. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR.

3. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7, 9, 12 – with comments and explanations following.

4.If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations.

 

1. Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 45ft (Diags.2 & 3, of 1924-1928)

2. Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 52ft (Diag.7, of 1940)

3. Car Carrier – Anglo-Scottish Bogie CCT (E71000-E71099 of 1957)

4. Car Carrier – Newton Chambers Double-Deck TCV (of 1962)

 

5. Passenger Brake Van BY 4-wheel (Diag.120 of 1927)

6. Passenger Brake Van BZ 6-wheel (Diag.358, BR-built 1950)

7. Passenger Brake Van B 51ft 1½in & BG 52ft 6in Gresley (Diags.129 & 284 of 1928 & 1939, Diags.154 & 282 of 1932 & 1938)

8. Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Gresley (Diag.245 of 1938-1943)

9. Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Thompson - Flat Planked Sides (Diag.327 of 1945-1946)

10. Passenger Brake Van BG 63ft 0in Thompson - Steel Sides (Diag.344 of 1945)

 

11. Travelling Post Office Vans – LNER (Diag.164 & Diag.165 of 1933 to 1937)

12. Travelling Post Office Vans – BR Mk1 (built or converted 1959-1977)

 

Brian

Edited June 3, 2021 by BMacdermott

[great northern]

And so to the last train of the day. Our photographer is geting a bit tired, after all he has been here since 7.15am, and even his magic camera is struggling with the light. He has also entered a time warp, as this photo must have been taken several months later. Someone has been brave in sending this so far from home on the 7.21 KX stopper. It has managed to get here without failing though.

 

 

[LNER4479]

We need a 'urrghh yuck' button at this point

(A reference to the prototype of course - not your model / photo!)

 

Coming to you from Grantham station platform...

[2750Papyrus]

8 minutes ago, LNER4479 said:

We need a 'urrghh yuck' button at this point

(A reference to the prototype of course - not your model / photo!)

 

Coming to you from Grantham station platform...

Well, yes, but....

 

I had a spell of buying GN section locos from when I was a teenager so I could ring the changes from the 30's.  This is my "go-to" loco when I need to run a track-cleaner; heavy, powerful and a good runner. 

 

Shame about the prototype!

[Mallard60022]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

And so to the last train of the day. Our photographer is geting a bit tired, after all he has been here since 7.15am, and even his magic camera is struggling with the light. He has also entered a time warp, as this photo must have been taken several months later. Someone has been brave in sending this so far from home on the 7.21 KX stopper. It has managed to get here without failing though.

 

 

I see that the Beltic has had a mast fitted so Control can spot where it failed within minutes. 

 

 

Nice coaches though........

[Mallard60022]

1 hour ago, BMacdermott said:

Final Call for Votes: 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.3

 

 

Hello everyone

 

The 'polling station' closes at 17.00, with Results due tomorrow (Friday 4 June).

 

Full details are on page 1312, but a reminder for those who may have overlooked voting…

1. You may vote for two of the ‘car types’, plus four of the Passenger Brake Vans, plus one of the TPOs. Seven votes total available. You cannot ‘transfer votes’!

2. They must be items you would realistically wish to buy if made RTR.

3. Submit your entries on this thread simply as (for example): 2, 4, 7, 9, 12 – with comments and explanations following.

4.If you vote by PM, please only list your selection of numbers without explanations.

 

1. Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 45ft (Diags.2 & 3, of 1924-1928)

2. Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 52ft (Diag.7, of 1940)

3. Car Carrier – Anglo-Scottish Bogie CCT (E71000-E71099 of 1957)

4. Car Carrier – Newton Chambers Double-Deck TCV (of 1962)

 

5. Passenger Brake Van BY 4-wheel (Diag.120 of 1927)

6. Passenger Brake Van BZ 6-wheel (Diag.358, BR-built 1950)

7. Passenger Brake Van B 51ft 1½in & BG 52ft 6in Gresley (Diags.129 & 284 of 1928 & 1939, Diags.154 & 282 of 1932 & 1938)

8. Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Gresley (Diag.245 of 1938-1943)

9. Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Thompson - Flat Planked Sides (Diag.327 of 1945-1946)

10. Passenger Brake Van BG 63ft 0in Thompson - Steel Sides (Diag.344 of 1945)

 

11. Travelling Post Office Vans – LNER (Diag.164 & Diag.165 of 1933 to 1937)

12. Travelling Post Office Vans – BR Mk1 (built or converted 1959-1977)

 

Brian

I'd say 3 & 11 as they are least likely to be found as sides anywhere?

P

[woodenhead]

1 hour ago, great northern said:

And so to the last train of the day. Our photographer is geting a bit tired, after all he has been here since 7.15am, and even his magic camera is struggling with the light. He has also entered a time warp, as this photo must have been taken several months later. Someone has been brave in sending this so far from home on the 7.21 KX stopper. It has managed to get here without failing though.

 

 

This loco was used for a little known trial using a Danish company, in place of the Deltic engine they used a 5 pole electric motor, powered through the track circuits no less!!.

 

It was extremely reliable and quiet, hence it could reach Peterborough with ease, but had to be abandoned due to the number of track workers who unwittingly got electrocuted whilst doing gauge tests.

[Mallard60022]

23 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

This loco was used for a little known trial using a Danish company, in place of the Deltic engine they used a 5 pole electric motor, powered through the track circuits no less!!.

 

It was extremely reliable and quiet, hence it could reach Peterborough with ease, but had to be abandoned due to the number of track workers who unwittingly got electrocuted whilst doing gauge tests.

Should have fitted some Short Circuit Protection 'lamps'.........

[Jon4470]

1 and 5 for me this time.

 

Jon

[Clive Mortimore]

4 hours ago, great northern said:

And so to the last train of the day. Our photographer is geting a bit tired, after all he has been here since 7.15am, and even his magic camera is struggling with the light. He has also entered a time warp, as this photo must have been taken several months later. Someone has been brave in sending this so far from home on the 7.21 KX stopper. It has managed to get here without failing though.

 

 

Hi Gilbert

 

No more shocks to the system please, me poor ticker can't take it.  

[Oldddudders]

1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Hi Gilbert

 

No more shocks to the system please, me poor ticker can't take it.  

A parade of primeval diesels right now would be good. 

[Flying Fox 34F]

5 hours ago, LNER4479 said:

 

 

Coming to you from Grantham station platform...

Model or Prototype?

 

Paul

[Flying Fox 34F]

5 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

I see that the Beltic has had a mast fitted so Control can spot where it failed within minutes. 

 

 

Nice coaches though........

Ooh, A Class 20 with a big Foam Rubber nose and Mk1 coaches with Foam Rubber side panels.  Happy Memories from my days on the NVR.

 

Paul

[Mallard60022]

23 minutes ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

Ooh, A Class 20 with a big Foam Rubber nose and Mk1 coaches with Foam Rubber side panels.  Happy Memories from my days on the NVR.

Paul

Well well, the Actor being the 'Driver' of that was a lovely bloke called Ziggy Byfield (RIP), who I had worked with in Epsom Theatre Panto and I had taught his younger lad Adam. Small world connections eh? 

Phil

[LNER4479]

Now then, what could be going on here?

 

 

Even stranger ...

 

 

Aha!

 

 

That looks better.

 

Nice to visit PN again and have a good catch up with our ever genial host. Hopefully some better pictures will be along shortly ...

[manna]

G'Day Folks

 

A LNER day would be nice !!!! Pretty Polly Please ..............

 

manna

[31A]

1 hour ago, LNER4479 said:

Now then, what could be going on here?

 

 

Even stranger ...

 

 

Aha!

 

 

That looks better.

 

Nice to visit PN again and have a good catch up with our ever genial host. Hopefully some better pictures will be along shortly ...

 

The "Plant Centenarian"?  Well nearly ..... !!

 

The new signals look good.

 

[great northern]

As you already know Red Leader duly touched down, one minute late, but that wasn't his fault, and after a mug of tea, we were able to agree on a course of action. Graham agreed with my view that goods traffic would only have used the island platform outer loop road in dire emergencies, so there seemed no point in motorising the two arms governing access to the yards. The fact that I can't remember using them in all the ten years of the layout reinforced that view. The distant is fixed, and so there remained only one arm to be dealt with, and that was done by lunchtime.

 

The other signal was more problematic, as there are four Tortoises crammed into one of those small cells. My view was that I would be quite happy if the Home and Distant arms for the main were operational, and that if, and again operationally it would have been rare, goods traffic into the yards was allowed through on the main, I would operate the necessary arms manually. 99% of the time there would only be me there to see this iniquitous practice. However, the two main arms co-operated quite well, and so there was time to also motorise one of the New England arms.

 

All in all, a very good result, and a very pleasant day in Graham's company. The signals, of course, look excellent, and are a great improvement on what was there before. Graham brought the lovely little D2 for me to admire, which I did, and I am sorely tempted. Well, I'm not, but I think Sir Archibald Loco-holic may be.

 

Anyway, some pictures, taken as the sun was moving behind houses, and the light was fading, but they give a reasonable idea.

 

 

All three of Graham's signals in view here, though one only partially. It isn't possible to get both of the new ones in unobstructed from this angle.

 

 

This one concentrates on the bracket governing Platform 6 line.

 

 

and then the one governing the Down Main.

 

 

 

 

From this angle we can get an unobstructed view of both.

 

 

and we finish with a closer view of the Main. Another enhancement of the layout is complete.

 

[Market65]

Well, Gilbert, those signals are superb and really help to improve that area of the layout. I will be good seeing the first train to be signalled through by those signals. So well done. 
 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[great northern]

1 hour ago, manna said:

G'Day Folks

 

A LNER day would be nice !!!! Pretty Polly Please ..............

 

manna

But we've just seen Pretty Polly. The poor thing needs a rest.

[great northern]

i will not deprive you of the customary evening image, so here is D5901 at the end of both its journey, and the latest sequence.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

The signals look very good. Well done Graham.

[LNER4479]

10 hours ago, 31A said:

 

The "Plant Centenarian"?  Well nearly ..... !!

 

Actually, the D2 + C1 phoro was rather more inspired by a 1938 picture at that location of just such a pairing being rustled up at no notice to replace a poorly A4 at Peterborough on the up Silver Jubilee. As Gilbert didn't have the 1938 Silver Jubilee set to hand, a three compartment Gresley BTK had to suffice.

 

Not quite sure what the thinking was in providing the D2 as pilot - probably more of a hindrance than a help as a C1 in good nick with a willing crew would surely have been perfectly adequate? Anyhow, as the caption to the photo remarked,  it gave the D2 concerned its 'moment in the sun'.

[2750Papyrus]

Those signals look superb and really add to the atmosphere.  Love the D2/C1 combination, too; I've always had a soft spot for the GN 4-4-0s.

[BMacdermott]

Results - 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.3: Non-passenger-carrying Coaching Stock (NPCCS)

 

Hello everyone

 

Many thanks to the 16 voters who took part and for the number of written comments received. Rather than take up space here, I have put them in a PDF attached. As per earlier Mini-Polls, they are in order of receipt but slightly edited for consistency. You will have already read these, but I felt it useful to have them all in one place in context with the results

 

The number of votes per item is shown in the left hand column.

 

High Polling

12        Passenger Brake Van B 51ft 1½in & BG 52ft 6in Gresley (Diags.129 & 284 of 1928 & 1939, Diags.154 & 282 of 1932 & 1938)

11        Passenger Brake Van BZ 6-wheel (Diag.358, BR-built 1950)

10        Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 45ft (Diags.2 & 3, of 1924-1928)

10        Bogie Covered Carriage Truck CCT 52ft (Diag.7, of 1940)

10        Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Thompson - Flat Planked Sides (Diag.327 of 1945-1946)

 

Middle Polling

8          Passenger Brake Van BG 63ft 0in Thompson – Steel Sides (Diag.344 of 1945)

8          Travelling Post Office Vans – LNER (Diag.164 & Diag.165 of 1933 to 1937)

6          Car Carrier – Anglo-Scottish Bogie CCT (E71000-E71099 of 1957)

6          Passenger Brake Van BY 4-wheel (Diag.120 of 1927)

6          Passenger Brake Van BG 61ft 6in Gresley (Diag.245 of 1938-1943)

 

Low Polling

2          Travelling Post Office Vans – BR Mk1 (built or converted 1959-1977)

1          Car Carrier – Newton Chambers Double-Deck TCV (of 1962)

 

Please note that the results reflect the views of those who voted here and may not necessarily reflect those of the wider modelling community. I might be able to show you more on that another day, so I have split them up as High, Middle and Low Polling to be in context with 00 Wishlist Polls of the past.

 

We’ll be back on Monday with: 00 Rolling Stock Mini-Poll No.4: Freight Stock – 4-wheel (Pre-1951)

 

Brian

(Note: These are ‘informal Polls for fun’ on Gilbert’s thread only and neither The 00 Wishlist Poll Team nor RMweb are specifically involved, apart from me in my ‘personal capacity’.)

Mini-Poll No.3 Comments Received.pdf