RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2020 I can understand software developers' reluctance to keep backwards compatibility - new devices use new hardware with new methods on how to do things, and keeping the old methods going increases the amount of code required and increases the likelihood of bugs. So new versions of apps would run slower and crash more - which would annoy users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bucoops said: I can understand software developers' reluctance to keep backwards compatibility - new devices use new hardware with new methods on how to do things, and keeping the old methods going increases the amount of code required and increases the likelihood of bugs. So new versions of apps would run slower and crash more - which would annoy users. And it's called 'progress'! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) When I replaced my phone last I was asked if I was going to recycle it and was I worried about information being retained in it? No. I placed the lower half of the old Samsung in the vice and tightened until I heard a satisfactory crack. Then selected a suitably oversized hammer and neatly smashed off the top half. Sorted. We have all found out to our cost that it is seldom a matter of "Just click" or worse, "Just tap the app"... My other half is waiting until the invention of what she calls the FaceChair App. If someone is really annoying, you hit the app on your phone and the app hits that person in the face with a chair in a John Wayne style. I think it would save a lot of time and patience. Edited June 17, 2020 by MrWolf Stupid autocorrect 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Bucoops said: I can understand software developers' reluctance to keep backwards compatibility - new devices use new hardware with new methods on how to do things, and keeping the old methods going increases the amount of code required and increases the likelihood of bugs. So new versions of apps would run slower and crash more - which would annoy users. But why not have the ability to run older existing software on older (i.e. compatible) hardware? With the caveat that the there is no support for the old stuff after a certain date. Or does that conflict with my observation below? 2 hours ago, MartinWales said: And it's called 'progress'! And wanting more money. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, newbryford said: But why not have the ability to run older existing software on older (i.e. compatible) hardware? With the caveat that the there is no support for the old stuff after a certain date. Or does that conflict with my observation below? And wanting more money. ALWAYS more! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, MrWolf said: My other half is waiting until the invention of what she calls the FaceChair App. If someone is really annoying, you hit the app on your phone and the app hits that person in the face with a chair in a John Wayne style. I think it would save a lot of time and patience. What would be even better, and funnier, is a boxing glove comes out of the screen, or a 16 ton weight descending, in true Monty Python style.................... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, newbryford said: But why not have the ability to run older existing software on older (i.e. compatible) hardware? With the caveat that the there is no support for the old stuff after a certain date. Or does that conflict with my observation below? And wanting more money. More money, but also app security. Vulnerabilities are found all the time, they can't keep fixing them forever. That and the servers that the apps connect to need to work with the supported apps so keeping older apps working doesn't get rid of the issue either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: When I replaced my phone last I was asked if I was going to recycle it and was I worried about information being retained in it? No. I placed the lower half of the old Samsung in the vice and tightened until I heard a satisfactory crack. Then selected a suitably oversized hammer and neatly smashed off the top half. Sorted. We have all found out to our cost that it is seldom a matter of "Just click" or worse, "Just tap the app"... My other half is waiting until the invention of what she calls the FaceChair App. If someone is really annoying, you hit the app on your phone and the app hits that person in the face with a chair in a John Wayne style. I think it would save a lot of time and patience. That sounds more like a hatred of technology than a wish to keep your details safe.......then again if your browsing history is....hmmm......maybe you did the right thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, boxbrownie said: That sounds more like a hatred of technology than a wish to keep your details safe.......then again if your browsing history is....hmmm......maybe you did the right thing Far from a hatred of technology, just acting daft. You really should try it. I was an engineer. I worked on some very interesting technology. What winds me up is two things. One is the way that technology is held back and then drip fed to the consumer to keep him buying. Two is the number of people who believe that they don't need any practical skills, just press a button and someone else will come and do it for you. My browser history is squeaky clean thanks, apart from train porn! Paper ladies never did it for me, real deal or no deal 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 10 hours ago, boxbrownie said: If it is the eBay app that is the issue why can you not just browse and use eBay in the normal iPad browser, as you would in a computer/android etc? Yes, of course... and I will probably do that, too, in due course. Once I remember my password! Last time I had to reset it, I got into a serious pickle over several devices, and missed out on an auction I was particularly keen on! Steve S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted June 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrWolf said: Far from a hatred of technology, just acting daft. You really should try it. I was an engineer. I worked on some very interesting technology. What winds me up is two things. One is the way that technology is held back and then drip fed to the consumer to keep him buying. Two is the number of people who believe that they don't need any practical skills, just press a button and someone else will come and do it for you. My browser history is squeaky clean thanks, apart from train porn! Paper ladies never did it for me, real deal or no deal I am daft all the time, works wonders......all my career I worked with engineers and in development, some of the tech that lay on “shelves” waiting a use or date would make consumers heads spin.....and absolutely bring back “hand tech” in schools, first thing I made at school in metalwork was a hinge from sheet and rod.......the second week was welding, I wonder if that works now in first year at secondary school.....or whatever it’s called nowadays. Never deny a browser history.......makes you guilty straight away, you say someone else used the computer Edited June 17, 2020 by boxbrownie 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Being daft is good, there's a lot of truth in that old chestnut "growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional". One of the downfalls of British industry has been that although we have made some of the greatest technological leaps in history, we seem unwilling to build upon them. A good example being the development of the jet engine. The decision makers turned their backs on the idea of fitting one to an aircraft. Until Heinkel caught us napping and got a six years head start. Norton motorcycles were winning races and customers in 1929 with an overhead camshaft engine, but their head of development refused to countenance applying that technology to multi cylinder engines in 1950, even though two cylinder engines were the norm by then. Ten years later, along come the Japanese and the rest is history. Unfortunately, changing fashions in politics and economics mean that children learn virtually nothing practical. Add to that budgeting and safety concerns and they end up making bits of packaging and mobile phone cases. Not exactly inspiring a new generation of invention. We don't actually have a computer. Name, rank and service number. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puggers Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) I know this is probably a silly question but, is this the ebay madness thread or have I slipped into a computer website? Edited June 18, 2020 by Puggers Typo 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) In the absence of any eBay silliness the thread often wonders into vague and eclectic musings and moanings. I’ll see what I can find on eBay and see if that will get things back on track. Typing “pro” into the search box usually brings up good candidates. Darius Edited June 18, 2020 by Darius43 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 You're both right of course. Just because I have no particular interest in computers doesn't mean that I fear them, nor worked with or on them. I can't recall such lengthy discussion about any other tools. There are only three categories that spanners fall into: 1. Proper 2. Poser 3.Chocolate / monkey metal With that, I am off to search out overpriced rubbish on eBay in the hope of creating some amusement for you all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) No luck with “pro” and “look” so I tried “scratch” and found this:- River/Coastal Scene Diorama Clearly this represents an early lockdown scene whereupon the Derbyshire Constabulary has dyed the water lurid blue to discourage lockdown breachers and someone has fly-tipped huge chunks of Thermalite blocks on the beach. Cheers Darius Edited June 18, 2020 by Darius43 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 And another eleven similarly imaginative items available. If anyone has a phone which is less than 12 months old and therefore obsolete could share this one: 383590039799 I typed in "Excellent kit built" Apparently this one "Requires tidying" I'll let you decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, MrWolf said: And another eleven similarly imaginative items available. If anyone has a phone which is less than 12 months old and therefore obsolete could share this one: 383590039799 I typed in "Excellent kit built" Apparently this one "Requires tidying" I'll let you decide. Is that a link or a phone number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, Darius43 said: Is that a link or a phone number? Sorry, it's the item number, my phone won't allow me to share the link / copy and paste the link. Best I could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, MrWolf said: Sorry, it's the item number, my phone won't allow me to share the link / copy and paste the link. Best I could do. Here you go Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted June 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Darius43 said: No luck with “pro” and “look” so I tried “scratch” and found this:- River/Coastal Scene Diorama Clearly this represents an early lockdown scene whereupon the Derbyshire Constabulary has dyed the water lurid blue to discourage lockdown breachers and someone has fly-tipped huge chunks of Thermalite blocks on the beach. Cheers Darius Well it has been noticeable that during lockdown the sea has been a lot clearer because of the dry weather. perhaps that's what this was intended to show Of course the sea is probably back to its usual colour now weve had a few days of rain. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Darius43 said: Here you go Cheers Darius Thanks, Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's valuable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-C Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hello, I've just been looking through eBay at some OO gauge stuff and found this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R9732-Rail-Over-River-Bridge/313094222833?epid=26012063089&hash=item48e5deb3f1%3Ag%3Azh0AAOSwvjVey9~X&LH_BIN=1 £2,199 for a Hornby bridge! I can only assume that the price was entered incorrectly (£2199 instead of £21.99), but it does make for quite a mad and comical listing! -Peter I hope this is the kind of thing people post on here - if it's not, please let me know. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, CuriousPeach6 said: Hello, I've just been looking through eBay at some OO gauge stuff and found this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R9732-Rail-Over-River-Bridge/313094222833?epid=26012063089&hash=item48e5deb3f1%3Ag%3Azh0AAOSwvjVey9~X&LH_BIN=1 £2,199 for a Hornby bridge! I can only assume that the price was entered incorrectly (£2199 instead of £21.99), but it does make for quite a mad and comical listing! -Peter I hope this is the kind of thing people post on here - if it's not, please let me know. I would expect a real one for that price (and free postage). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-C Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, 009 micro modeller said: I would expect a real one for that price (and free postage). Definitely! People are selling layouts on there for less than the price of that one bridge! Maybe it is a real bridge, they just got the scale wrong.... -Peter 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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