synthnut Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hia, Whilst I'm quietly excited by the prospect of having some RTR true "industrials" at long last, I'm a little concerned by thIs: "Due to the limited space available, a unique decoder has been produced which is available through the Hornby Customer Care Department." Will the Hornby decoder be available after the loco goes out of production if folk decide to go DCC later on? Looking forward to seeing one in action and what it's performance is like though...and maybe adding one to my proposed colliery section ;-) TTFN, Ben Head firmly stuck in BR Blue mode.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Unique in Hornbyland probably means a 6 pin decoder, if it a truely unique decoder, and socket, then theres always the solution of ripping out all the existing wiring and hard wiring a decoder in place. Edited December 21, 2012 by Butler Henderson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 anyone have any shots of the locos planned when they where in service? all the shots ive seen so far are preserved ones. Durham Locomotive Group (DLPG) have pics of theirs (The Tarmac one) at the quarry somewhere here on RMWeb I think,and if not on RMWeb, it might be on Facebook 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hi all I asked this question on the Hornby announcement thread, but was wondering if anyone has an idea of which years each of the available models liveries apply to? I am interested in 1968ish. Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I've seen a shot of the real NCB (Opencast Executive) liveried one and that's probably fine. The Tarmac example is actually in standard fresh from the factory style (except the modern Tarmac logo) so again, that would be suitable, if you're happy to remove the logo. The Esso liveried version is the one that isn't: it's done exactly per the preserved example at Cranmore - the loco' wasn't named at Cattewater so far as I know. It is a reasonable approximation of the ESSO livery of the period though. It faded to pink: http://paulbartlett....746e0a#hd746e0a Ignore the date of registration with the Railway Executive on the Paul Bartlett photo. Either Paul has got it wrong (unlikely), or the plate was transferred from an earlier loco' since the Sentinel probably wasn't built until at least 10 years later. Adam Edited December 22, 2012 by Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I've seen a shot of the real NCB (Opencast Executive) liveried one and that's probably fine. The Tarmac example is actually in standard fresh from the factory style (except the modern Tarmac logo) so again, that would be suitable, if you're happy to remove the logo. The Esso liveried version is the one that isn't: it's done exactly per the preserved example at Cranmore - the loco' wasn't named at Cattewater so far as I know. It is a reasonable approximation of the ESSO livery of the period though. It faded to pink: Great thanks for the info. So would have the Esso liveried one been the same as this in the late 60s? http://PaulBartlett....motive/ed746e0a *grammer edit Edited December 22, 2012 by Grasslands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Great thanks for the info. So would have the livery for the Esso one been the same as this in the late 60s? http://PaulBartlett....motive/ed746e0a Probably - the black lining along the sidesheet is reasonably indicative and the wasp stripes on the end look like those Sentinel applied themselves. Probably though is the best I can do in lieu of an earlier photo. Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 anyone have any shots of the locos planned when they where in service? all the shots ive seen so far are preserved ones. http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/locos/d/sentinel.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Did the Manchester ship canal company have any of this version? I've had a good search online and can only find photos of the 0-6-0 versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The link in the post above yours to the Bluebell site suggests that MSC had at least 10 of the four wheelers, but I've sold my MSC book so can't check! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Did the Manchester ship canal company have any of this version? I've had a good search online and can only find photos of the 0-6-0 versions.Did I buy your book secondhand?According to Don Thorpe 'The Railways of the Manchester Ship Canal' the had 18, numbered DH15 to DH32. They were delivered 1963 to 66. They were resold 1970 to 72, other than three, that were modified for tandem working. There is one preserved at Williton, in the same livery as the NCBOE model. Are there any transfers available to renumber. Edited December 24, 2012 by bigd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Jenny Emily: the MSC railway had lots (well, more than 10 is a big fleet by industrial standards). There's one preserved at Williton on the West Somerset Railway - try www.wsr.org for pictures of that one (its restored in its original livery, very smart). Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) Here's the one preserved in MSC livery at Williton; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Williton_MSC_DH16_front.jpg/800px-Williton_MSC_DH16_front.jpg The 0-6-0s were used at the western end of the system, Ellesmere Port etc, whilst the 0-4-0s were used at on the eastern section, around Salford, Trafford Park and Manchester Docks. Edited December 24, 2012 by Arthur 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Are there any pictures of the front end of this model yet? I'm wondering if they've modelled the knight with sword that the Sentinel locos had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Did the Manchester ship canal company have any of this version? I've had a good search online and can only find photos of the 0-6-0 versions. That was my first thought when Hornby announced that they were producing this model and I manged to find these pictures of two of them hauling a train to the Containerbase depot at Trafford Park. Even though I don't model in 00 any more, I'm still hoping that Hornby produce a model in MSC livery at some point! http://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/6478099017/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/6478095187/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saunders_69023 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 May I just voice my opinion I myself am just starting to collect RTR Industrial locomotives & this little loco will be a great little addition to my layout, in regards to the price I challenge anyone to find a new ready to run industrial loco with similar spec for less than £60 rrp maybe we should all be grateful that a main stream manufacturer has recognised a large gap in the market that finally needs filling & who knows...if the loco proves a success maybe we will see even more industrial locos filling the shelves 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasslands Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The hattons website is advertising the tarmac liveried version as 'Weathered' Not too sure whether it was originally advertised as such. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 27, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2012 One of the ex-MSC Sentinels DH23 is now at The Ribble Steam Railway in Preston - now renamed "Energy" to replace the original one of the trio delivered to Preston Docks (Energy/Enterprise/Progress) http://www.ribblesteam.org.uk/index.php/stock/100-energy Note the modified doors - now hinged instead of the original sliding doors. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 syks - bsc 40 grimesthorpe 82 JL by johnmightycat1, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The Hornby model seems to have to have the body riding higher above the wheels than the prototypes in the photos ? Is that just the camera angle of the prototype photos making them look lower than the model... or perhaps my imagination ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Tanhouse Lane Blue Circle cement by Terry 47401, on Flickr Widnes 1997 Edited January 10, 2013 by Michael Delamar 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2013 A first test shot picture has appeared on Gaugemaster Controls Facebook page. Here is a direct link, don't know if it will work or not though: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/37107_529599673730879_1882900085_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75089_529599657064214_766415126_n.jpg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Tanhouse Lane Blue Circle cement by Terry 47401, on Flickr Widnes 1997 What are the "Likes" for? The original picture of the sentinel or the advert for paidsocial mediajobs.com, "Get Paid To Mess Around", and the picture of a young blonde woman I get when I place the curser over the picture? Edited January 11, 2013 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 24, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2013 Did the Manchester ship canal company have any of this version? I've had a good search online and can only find photos of the 0-6-0 versions. I have been racking my brain to find where I had filed this photo - in my WSR folder of course - d'oh. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Well all the photos of the prototypes here seem to show lights / lamps at both ends so I hope Hornby takes note and supplies something similar on their model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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