RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2020 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo’s which, as always, are full of interest and show how things were back in the late 80’s and early 90’s. I particularly like the last photo’, of 31235 and 31159, both in the ‘Dutch’ livery, running light engines, on the 26th February, 1994. Also, in the right hand background, you can see a class 47 with buffers with different finishes. Not too often you see something like that on a model. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 A number of locations along the Cumbrian Coast line southwards from Carlisle this afternoon. Dalston Class 108 Carlisle to Whitehaven and 37025 22nd April 87 C8411.jpg Nethertown view south 22nd April 87 C8382.jpg Seascale looking south 7th Aug 87 C8792. Seascale Class 108 up going away 7th Aug 87 C8795 Silecroft A4 4498 Sellafield to Carnforth Cumbrian Coast Express Aug 79 J6591.jpg Grange over Sands looking west, west of the station. 8th Aug 87 C8860 David 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Good to see the Cumbrian Coast Grange is a very nice place to go to can be a lonely line to watch but interesting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hi, Dave. I like the Cumbrian Coast line photo’s, which capture the landscape the line traverses perfectly. In C8792, at Seascale, looking south, on the 7th August, 1987, you can see the very low platforms and that steps were needed to help get passengers on and off the trains. I’m not sure if the platforms remain like that today or have been raised up. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the Cumbrian Coast line photo’s, which capture the landscape the line traverses perfectly. In C8792, at Seascale, looking south, on the 7th August, 1987, you can see the very low platforms and that steps were needed to help get passengers on and off the trains. I’m not sure if the platforms remain like that today or have been raised up. The platforms have not been raised but have instead been equipped with a "Harrington Hump" - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrington_Hump The picture in the article is at Aberdovey but the one at Seascale is similar. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I am another "noticer of the steps"! One thing I remember about such things is the seemed to be made out of solid lead! Not the easiest thing to find, move and use at 23:20 to let the Saturday night drunks off safely at Shireoaks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2020 Here's a picture of the humps at Seascale - one on each line. https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3558703 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 C8411 looks rather close for what seems to be a converging line. DMU appears to be heading towards the camera (white lights on the cab). Presumably the 37 was stationary, or possibly propelling when the picture was taken? Or is it an optical illusion caused by a long lens? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, dvdlcs said: C8411 looks rather close for what seems to be a converging line. DMU appears to be heading towards the camera (white lights on the cab). Presumably the 37 was stationary, or possibly propelling when the picture was taken? Or is it an optical illusion caused by a long lens? I don't know the area but it all looks normal to me. If you look in front of the loco you can see that the catch (trap if you prefer) point is turned away from the main line. My guess is that the crew are waiting for the DMU to clear so that they can get permission to open the ground frame and follow it or possibly to then continue shunting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The tanks at Dalston came (and still do !) from Grangemouth, once the DMU is clear the loco has to run round the train on the main line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, dvdlcs said: C8411 looks rather close for what seems to be a converging line. DMU appears to be heading towards the camera (white lights on the cab). Presumably the 37 was stationary, or possibly propelling when the picture was taken? Or is it an optical illusion caused by a long lens? 5 minutes ago, 101 said: I don't know the area but it all looks normal to me. If you look in front of the loco you can see that the catch (trap if you prefer) point is turned away from the main line. My guess is that the crew are waiting for the DMU to clear so that they can get permission to open the ground frame and follow it or possibly to then continue shunting. 2 minutes ago, caradoc said: The tanks at Dalston came (and still do !) from Grangemouth, once the DMU is clear the loco has to run round the train on the main line. The 37 was stationary at the time. It was waiting to draw forward onto the main line to run round. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2020 Does look like an imminent disaster, doesn’t it? It obviously wasn’t or we’d have known about it. Possible explanation; dmu has the road and is proceeding normally; 37 on branch is stationary at signal just out of shot to the right, possibly ground frame controlling trap point which you can see extreme right. There is no signal visible, and the movement might be controlled by hand-signal. The 37 looks as if it’s moving but this is an illusion caused by a wind blowing the exhaust to the rear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 Derbyshire today, with a mix of infrastructure and trains. Belper looking north April 90 J10709 Chinley Class 142 eastbound 24th Aug 90 C15313 Cromford MR viaduct over River Derwent March 72 J2835.jpg Great Rocks 37684 and 37678 l e from Buxton 19th April 90 C14405.jpg Peak Forest 37425 shunting 19th April 90 C14394 David 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Does look like an imminent disaster, doesn’t it? It obviously wasn’t or we’d have known about it. Possible explanation; dmu has the road and is proceeding normally; 37 on branch is stationary at signal just out of shot to the right, possibly ground frame controlling trap point which you can see extreme right. There is no signal visible, and the movement might be controlled by hand-signal. The 37 looks as if it’s moving but this is an illusion caused by a wind blowing the exhaust to the rear. No disaster in this case, imminent or otherwise. However, during my time in Glasgow Control, this long running service has certainly been involved in incidents ! (It ran, and AFAIK still does, as 6M34 from Grangemouth to Dalston and 6S36 return although I believe it is nowadays too long to go to Dalston as one train, and runs in two portions between Kingmoor and Dalston). Not long after I started in Glasgow 6M34, which at that time ran in the morning, caught fire between Wishaw and Law Jc; Cue DG Emergency, emergency isolation of the OLE, etc. Many years later, post-privatisation, 6M34, by now running at night, derailed (one wagon bogie) at Swingbridge (just west of Falkirk Grahamston), ran derailed to Carmuirs East Jc where the bogie rerailed itself at a crossover; Neither the Driver or any of the Signallers were any the wiser, other than a couple of Track Circuit failures behind it. Only when the S&T got to site did the multiple damaged sleepers and broken rails come to light ! The train was stopped south of Cumbernauld where after inspection it was deemed unfit to go forward. So we had two separate routes blocked, the Down line from Grahamston to Carmuirs East, and the Up line through Cumbernauld. That was a fun night shift....... 4 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21, 2020 Re Dalston View from the road bridge: https://goo.gl/maps/2b5xN7sYE9rPMJbc7 There are trailing crossovers each end of Dalston station to allow run rounds 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hi, Dave. I like the Derbyshire photo’s which are all full of interest. In J2835, at Cromford, with the Midland Railway viaduct over the River Derwent, in March, 1972, you have what is a most delightful view, which I’m sure would make a great painting. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2020 The East Coast Main Line in Northumberland again today, over several years. Goswick Class 37 down cement Mar 87 J8791 Alnmouth 43060 up 22nd Aug 87 C9121 Buston Barns 55018 Edinburgh to Newcastle Aug 80 J7120.jpg Buston Barns 47297 up freightliner 24th Oct 87 C9171.jpg Buston Barns 142021 Berwick to Newcastle 16th Feb 91 C15577.jpg David 44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2020 Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from Northumberland. All are full of interest, and that last one, C15577, at Buston Barns, on the 16th February, 1991, with 142021 on a Berwick to Newcastle service, is now of great historical interest with the withdrawal of all the class 142’s from Heaton. Plus that livery went many years ago. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2020 Today we start at Darlington and head north towards Newcastle. Darlington 47602 Newcastle to Liverpool 26th Feb 87 C8248.jpg Bradbury Class 43 up 8th May 93 C18537.jpg Plawsworth 31466 up parcels Oct 87 J9339.jpg Low Fell 47280 up freight 28th June 88 C09548.jpg Bensham Class 45 Penzance to Newcastle Aug 86 J8661.jpg David 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 Hi, Dave. I like the photo’s of the ECML from Darlington northwards to Newcastle. All are full of interest, and the first photo’, C8248, at Darlington, with 47602 on a Newcastle to Liverpool service on the 26th February, 1987, shows a good plume of exhaust as the 47 departs from the station. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Nice pics as ever Dave. 31 466, did it have some special painting at cantrail level? Looks alternate grey and red? Interesting livery variation. Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jessy1692 said: Nice pics as ever Dave. 31 466, did it have some special painting at cantrail level? Looks alternate grey and red? Interesting livery variation. Cheers James I think it is probably just paint damage, it could also be emphasised by the process of scanning and colour correcting - I am sure the stripe was orange. David Edited January 23, 2020 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, DaveF said: I think it is probably just paint damage, it could also be emphasised by the process of scanning and colour correcting - I am sure the stripe was orange. David Thought it might be paint/scanning, would have made an interesting change to orange! Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jessy1692 said: Nice pics as ever Dave. 31 466, did it have some special painting at cantrail level? Looks alternate grey and red? Interesting livery variation. What drew my eye in that photo was the fourth vehicle back, an ex-works GUV. A rare beast in the wild for NPCCS.... Regards, Dave 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2020 C09548 Strange bit of "Plain Lining" where only half has been done. I wonder why they didn't bother with the other crossing? Nice selection of pictures as always Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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