eastwestdivide Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 May 78 is quite early in the HST's ECML career, so it could well be a training run (oh, overlapped with DaveF's reply above) 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 254006 short-formed due to no dining cars, iirc this would get a TRUK /TRSB pair? Edited November 20, 2020 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chris116 said: I note that J6131 is a 2+6 HST while J7820 is 2+8. I suspect the 2+6 was a short form due to faults somewhere although others may be able to explain better. Great photos as always. I agree with the others. Since the 2+6 HST in J6131 has no catering vehicle in the set, its more likely ecs, driver training or the like. But I do have an inkling that some catering cars were late arriving, but would they really have let sets without in regular service when BR was trying to promote the new HSTs as the way to travel? Edited November 20, 2020 by brushman47544 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 20, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the Swayfield photo’s, all of which are of interest. In C2583, with an unidentified class 47 on a down express passenger train, the 13.00 Kings Cross to Edinburgh service, in January, 1976, you can see how an air conditioned Mkll has been replaced by an earlier non air conditioned Mkll for the fourth vehicle from the 47. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) The Blyth and Tyne again today bwteen Winning and North Blyth over about 24 years. Winning 56127 coal to Blyth Power station Sept 87 J9298.jpg Winning 56120 up empties 21st August 89 C13717.jpg Winning 37410 down empties with brake van 26th Oct 92 C18079.jpg Blyth West staithes being demolished 4th Sept 95 C20511.jpg They were cut down to a few feet above the level of high tide. Alcan North Blyth 55022 Royal Scots Grey propelling wagons to be loaded 11th Apr 2011.jpg David Edited November 21, 2020 by DaveF 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 18 hours ago, Market65 said: Good evening, David. I like the Swayfield photo’s, all of which are of interest. In C2583, with an unidentified class 47 on a down express passenger train, the 13.00 Kings Cross to Edinburgh service, in January, 1976, you can see how an air conditioned Mkll has been replaced by an earlier non air conditioned Mkll for the fourth vehicle from the 47. With warmest regards, Rob. In the early days of the Mk2d fleet that was very common because of multiple issues with the air-con on these coaches in severe heat or severe cold and frost. There's some good photos of sets made up more or less 50/50 Mk2D/Mk2a/b stock in 1971-73. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, DaveF said: The Blyth and Tyne again today bwteen Winning and North Blyth over about 24 years. Winning 56127 coal to Blyth Power station Sept 87 J9298.jpg Winning 56120 up empties 21st August 89 C13717.jpg Winning 37410 down empties with brake van 26th Oct 92 C18079.jpg Blyth West staithes being demolished 4th Sept 95 C20511.jpg They were cut down to a few feet above the level of high tide. Alcan North Blyth 55022 Royal Scots Grey propelling wagons to be loaded 11th Apr 2011.jpg David Am I right in recalling that 55022 was on hire to GBRf for that duty? I seem to vaguely remember a headboard being carried at one point making mention of such. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the photo’s from between Winning and North Blyth. All are of interest, and in the last photo’, at Alcan, North Blyth, with 55022, Royal Scots Grey, propelling wagons to be loaded, on the 11th April, 2011, you have captured a most unique scene which would translate into a fabulous model with the forthcoming model of the 55 Deltic from Accurascale. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, hexagon789 said: Am I right in recalling that 55022 was on hire to GBRf for that duty? I seem to vaguely remember a headboard being carried at one point making mention of such. Yes, it was on hire to GBRf at the time, the workings were very popular with local photographers. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Always interested to see how the 'Davemobile' changed through the years. Presumably the Mondeo was the model of that time? Mind you, one of the doors is 'on the latch'... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 21, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, talisman56 said: Always interested to see how the 'Davemobile' changed through the years. Presumably the Mondeo was the model of that time? Mind you, one of the doors is 'on the latch'... That one's not mine - I've never owned a Ford. At that time I was driving a dark grey Toyota Auris. I judged that as I was over 60 I could have a Toyota. David 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 hours ago, hexagon789 said: There's some good photos of sets made up more or less 50/50 Mk2D/Mk2a/b stock in 1971-73. Unlikely to be any Mk IIb that early, I'd suggest. The Eastern only had MkII and MkIIa until the the MkIId fleet was delivered. IIRC, the MkIIb were predominantly Western and the MkIIc split between the Western and London Midland (or was it the other way around?). It wasn't until the early 80s that some MkIIb FKs drifted across to the Eastern, AFAIR. I'll have to ferret out my old coaching stock books over the weekend to confirm! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 hours ago, 35A said: Unlikely to be any Mk IIb that early, I'd suggest. The Eastern only had MkII and MkIIa until the the MkIId fleet was delivered. IIRC, the MkIIb were predominantly Western and the MkIIc split between the Western and London Midland (or was it the other way around?). It wasn't until the early 80s that some MkIIb FKs drifted across to the Eastern, AFAIR. I'll have to ferret out my old coaching stock books over the weekend to confirm! There were definitely some rakes in the early years of the Mk2D that ended up with certain air-cons being swapped out for earlier Mk2 types, most had centre doors so would be 2A stock but I'm sure a handful had no centre-doors so must've been 2B or C but I'm sure an article somewhere listed them as 2B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2020 The Bluebell Railway in the later 1970s for this morning's coffee time photos. Horsted Keynes USA 30064 Oct 76 C3080.jpg Holywell SECR Class C 592 Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes Dec 75 C2549.jpg Sheffield Park GWR 3217 SECR Class C 592 Dec 75 C2539.jpg Sheffield Park U Class 1618 and Class P 323 Dec 78 J6364.jpg Sheffield Park SECR CLass P 323 Bluebell 26th Dec 78 C4227.jpg Sheffield Park LBSCR A1X 55 Stepney Dec 78 J6370.jpg David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 22, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Places on the ECML in Northumberland whose names begin with A, B or C this afternoon. They are in order from north to south. Berwick upon Tweed 43157 York to Aberdeen 1st Aug 86 C7777.jpg Christon Bank 43109 and 43050 Edinburgh to Kings X July 90 J10997.jpg The nearest village is Rock but the nearest "railway place" is Christon Bank. Alnmouth 91023 down 26th Nov 94 C19879.jpg Buston Barns 142021 Berwick to Newcastle 16th Feb 91 C15578.jpg Butterwell Junction Class 143 Alnmouth to Newcastle Feb 1990 J10633.jpg David Edited November 22, 2020 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the Bluebell Railway photo’s which are all of interest and are so nostalgic. In C2549, at Holywell, with SECR class C, number 592, on a Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes service, in December, 1975, you have captured, perfectly, a lovely scene of a steam engine in a delightful countryside setting. The ECML in Northumberland photo’s are all interesting, and how Alnmouth had changed from June, 1973, when I went there by a school special excursion train to visit Holy Island. 91023 on a down express, on the 26th November, 1994, in C19879, shows such a different railway from my visit. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) For today's photos we head north from Darlington on the ECML. Darlington Class 253 down from site of loco shed 16th Feb 85 C6696.jpg Hett Mill Class 91 down16th Oct 93 C19127.jpg Croxdale Class 91 down 16th Oct 93 C19135.jpg Plawsworth Class 254 up 26th Oct 87 C9180.jpg Low Fell 47598 hauling fire damaged 47713 in freight up 28th June 88 C9550.jpg David Edited November 23, 2020 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 C9550. The wagons in red and grey livery are former open BR ferry wagons (TOPS code OJX/ OJB) . They are probably returning to Ferryhill after delivering magnesium limestone to Scotland. Some have been cut down to 5 planks. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Fat Controller said: C9550. The wagons in red and grey livery are former open BR ferry wagons (TOPS code OJX/ OJB) . They are probably returning to Ferryhill after delivering magnesium limestone to Scotland. Some have been cut down to 5 planks. The Ferry Highs are one of the wagons that are crying out to be modelled! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Mark Saunders said: The Ferry Highs are one of the wagons that are crying out to be modelled! Shouldn't be that difficult to do. There's a drawing in 'The Book'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 C6696 I think this would technically be a 253 - this class covers the NE-SW sets (of which this is one) identifiable by having only one TF and a TRSB buffet. The power car is one of the DM type (with no guard's office) and not allocated to a specific set. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the photo’s going north from Darlington on the ECML. All are of interest, and what a delightful ‘train in the landscape’ photo’ in C19127, at Hett Mill, with a class 91 and MklV’s on a down express on the 16th October, 1993. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2020 The HST in C6696 is 2+7 with only one FO, so is more likely to be a cross country Class 253 set. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 23, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, keefer said: C6696 I think this would technically be a 253 - this class covers the NE-SW sets (of which this is one) identifiable by having only one TF and a TRSB buffet. The power car is one of the DM type (with no guard's office) and not allocated to a specific set. 45 minutes ago, Market65 said: Good evening, David. I like the photo’s going north from Darlington on the ECML. All are of interest, and what a delightful ‘train in the landscape’ photo’ in C19127, at Hett Mill, with a class 91 and MklV’s on a down express on the 16th October, 1993. With warmest regards, Rob. Many thanks keefer, I think I need to learn to count coaches. I've changed the caption to Class 253. Rob, Thanks again, as always for your comment. It's a photo I particularly like. David Edited November 23, 2020 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: The Ferry Highs are one of the wagons that are crying out to be modelled! Peco did an N gauge version way back in the late 1960s, which is still available. They even do it in the red/grey livery BUT they letter and number it up as an OBA! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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