Mark Saunders Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 2 hours ago, russ p said: I wondered about this too, wonder if they are imported coils from an east coast port? Looks like Stainless Coil as I think by then the move of slab from Tinsley to Germany with coil returning was established! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 4 hours ago, jonny777 said: Thanks Dave. I wasn't living in Lincolnshire at the time but I do remember visiting my Dad and him telling me of unusual large freight trains passing the house from time to time, but I didn't take a great deal of notice. I gather Boston was used during various industrial disputes to bring imports into the UK which would have not been allowed at bigger ports elsewhere. King's Lynn is another possibility. I believe both ports handled steel (and Boston still does), whilst King's Lynn handled urea for CIBA- Geigy. When there were problems at Harwich or Felixstowe, Freightliner also used King's Lynne. The coil (I suspect Cold Reduced, due to the plastic wrapping) is probably bound for Wolverhampton terminal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Would a Kings Lynn train for Wolverhampton be routed via that route, though? I'm not sure when the March - Spalding line was closed, but it would have had to perform the back somersault at Ely and then go via Peterborough and Grantham which appears to be something of a mystery trip. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 9, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Back to the ECML in Northumberland for today's photos, taken between Morpeth and Alnmouth. UlghamLane crossing 37517 and 37519 down l e 3rd September 88 C11512.jpg UlghamLane crossing 56118 up coal from Butterwell 8th Feb 92 C16686.jpg Warkworth Class 47 down special Pilkington coaches 19th Sept 92 C18047.jpg Just to the north of the site of the station. Date now corrected Wooden Gates Class 254 up Nov 89 J10544.jpg Wooden Gates Class 142 Newcastle to Alnmouth11th Dec 93 C19230.jpg David Edited March 9, 2020 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Turnbull Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The March - Spalding line was closed after the passage of this special train: Chris Turnbull 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 23 hours ago, great central said: Boston is still used for steel imports, there's a train most days, usually class 60 hauled. I'm not sure how a Lackenby to Corby would get here, unless by a reversal at Grantham. I was assuming via the joint line (Gainsborough/Lincoln) as it probably wouldn't have been allowed down the ECML. But I agree a rather longer diversion than likely to be needed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, DaveF said: Warkworth Class 47 down special Pilkington coaches 12th Sept 92 C18047.jpg Just to the north of the site of the station. Six Bells Junction has a Cheshire Railtours charter running on 12 September 1992 using the Pilkington K set, hauled by 47631 and running 1Z28 Preston - S&C - Carlisle - WCML - Preston - Wakefield Kirkgate. 47631 was never in I/C livery and I thought there was only one Pilkington liveried set. So something doesn't add up! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, jonny777 said: Would a Kings Lynn train for Wolverhampton be routed via that route, though? I'm not sure when the March - Spalding line was closed, but it would have had to perform the back somersault at Ely and then go via Peterborough and Grantham which appears to be something of a mystery trip. I assume you mean a reversal at Ely? Why not use the curve at Ely North Junction, no reversal necessary. Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, stewartingram said: I assume you mean a reversal at Ely? Why not use the curve at Ely North Junction, no reversal necessary. Stewart Wasn't that curve out of use for some time, Stewart? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, stewartingram said: I assume you mean a reversal at Ely? Why not use the curve at Ely North Junction, no reversal necessary. Stewart No, I meant going around almost in a circle via the loop. I just used a weird phrase for it because I am weird. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, brushman47544 said: I was assuming via the joint line (Gainsborough/Lincoln) as it probably wouldn't have been allowed down the ECML. But I agree a rather longer diversion than likely to be needed. Don't think that would work, there's no north to west connection at Sleaford. Going almost to Lincoln then turn right at Pyewipe junction would only bring you back to Newark north gate. At that time you could then have taken the line south to Bottesford west junction but the station is East of there? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Fat Controller said: Wasn't that curve out of use for some time, Stewart? I believe so, though it might have been in one direction only? It's only just down the road from me, but I really can't answer that! Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I expect that a report may have appeared in a Modern Railways (or equivalent) at the time, but my copies of MR are stored somewhere in the loft and I am unable to get boxes without the help of one of my fitter relatives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the ECML photo’s from between Alnmouth and Morpeth which are all full of interest. I particularly like the bucolic scene in J10544, at Wooden Gates, with a class 254 HST, on an up express in November, 1989. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted March 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 hours ago, brushman47544 said: Six Bells Junction has a Cheshire Railtours charter running on 12 September 1992 using the Pilkington K set, hauled by 47631 and running 1Z28 Preston - S&C - Carlisle - WCML - Preston - Wakefield Kirkgate. 47631 was never in I/C livery and I thought there was only one Pilkington liveried set. So something doesn't add up! A bit of detective work on class47.co.uk reveals it is most likely 47973. About the only one in Mainline livery with nameplate and plaque that fits. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0948000442000 Regards, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 9, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, brushman47544 said: Six Bells Junction has a Cheshire Railtours charter running on 12 September 1992 using the Pilkington K set, hauled by 47631 and running 1Z28 Preston - S&C - Carlisle - WCML - Preston - Wakefield Kirkgate. 47631 was never in I/C livery and I thought there was only one Pilkington liveried set. So something doesn't add up! It's my fault - I typed the wrong date when I captioned this photo, it should be the 19th September 1992 not the 12th September. My apologies. David Edited March 9, 2020 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 47973 it is then: https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/90s/920919df.htm (Wonder why they were going to Dunfermline?) Edited March 10, 2020 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, keefer said: 47973 it is then: https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/90s/920919df.htm (Wonder why they were going to Dunfermline?) A nice trip over the Forth Railway Bridge and then no reason to go much further except I would have wanted to do the Fife circle via Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 10, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2020 A few photos taken between Darlington and Newcastle this afternoon. Darlington Class 305 and 302 ADB97764 977640 977639 DM&EE training outbase east 12th May 90 C14455.jpg Bradbury Class 43 down 7th May 94 C19432.jpg Croxdale Class 91 up IC 16th Oct 93__C19139.jpg Durham HST Kings X to Edinburgh Oct 86 J8714.jpg Low Fell 37363 down freight Aug 87 J9189 David 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clagsniffer Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 J9189 is a great picture at low fell. I don’t recognise the wagons behind the first two, what are they? Great pictures as always. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Clagsniffer said: J9189 is a great picture at low fell. I don’t recognise the wagons behind the first two, what are they? Great pictures as always. Also not 37363, which didn't exist. Has a (Scottish) car headlight so should be easy enough for someone who knows 37s better than me to work out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Clagsniffer said: J9189 is a great picture at low fell. I don’t recognise the wagons behind the first two, what are they? Might be the PR255xx tipplers as illustrated (at Ferryhill) by Paul Bartlett at https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/procorpsa Later edit: sorry, I didn't read your comment correctly, and my reply was about the first two wagons. The 3rd etc are identified a few posts further on by Fat Controller. Edited March 11, 2020 by eastwestdivide My mistake 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Could be 37303 which was a Tinsley Speedlink loco by then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 10, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, woodenhead said: Could be 37303 which was a Tinsley Speedlink loco by then. Don't think so. 37303 didn't have a lamp bracket above the headcode panel or a car headlight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, brushman47544 said: Don't think so. 37303 didn't have a lamp bracket above the headcode panel or a car headlight. There are pics of 303 with two filled holes where the bracket was, but no headlight. Oh well, it is definitely though a class 37 Edited March 10, 2020 by woodenhead 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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