richard i Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 I don’t normally do a look what I got....I promise. however this I a plug for scaleforum if you can make it. The prices on their stand are designed to ensure everything goes. I have been after this for a while and for this price it is almost a steel. i will definitely enjoy building it. Go to the show if you can. Richard. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Richard, if you want it I have this going for free. PM me if you want it. Tim T All packed up ready to move somewhere, anywhere! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 01/10/2019 at 03:40, timbowilts said: Richard, if you want it I have this going for free. PM me if you want it. Tim T All packed up ready to move somewhere, anywhere! Parcel arrived today. Thank you for such generosity. It is things like this which make me think that this hobby is made up of some of the best people in society. Richard 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Could not resist getting the wagon built. Should only take a couple of days. it will look great. Once transfers fitted. I might leave the body in it’s injection moulded colour. Then weather it down. Richard 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 It has got this far. a cracking kit. Richard 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted October 10, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2019 A pity they are no longer available. I recently built the LYR "Fruit" open and it too was a delight to build. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Andy Hayter said: A pity they are no longer available. I recently built the LYR "Fruit" open and it too was a delight to build. That can be said about several ranges that no longer exist. Tim T All packed up ready to move to Felinfoel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Good luck on the move. Have to agree on the lost ranges. You don’t miss them until they are gone. Richard 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 20, 2019 The cutting out has finally finished. Thank heavens I only wanted 4. There are parts to possibly make the basis of a couple of others.... or to use as spares when I mess up. The production batch build has begun. This is more fun than the cutting out. Richard 8 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 The train takes shape. in the end it won’t be white, but at the moment it is the ghost train. richard 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 When building four a little added to each takes a time. Battery boxes fitted. i also felt it would be easier to divide out the cut pieces. Richard 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 26, 2019 Author Share Posted October 26, 2019 I have to admit I am a little stumped. I have worked out what slots in where for all things except the slots left open before some wise crack tells me the round ones are for the bogies, I have got that, what about the two between the battery boxes? Or are they for fixtures inside? ideas welcome. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2019 Have you seen Larry Coachman's thread? They appear to be for a cross beam to attach the Queen (?) posts to. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Thanks I pressed the link and found I followed it many years ago. Now to see if a piece jumps out as serving that function, or make my own. Of all the pieces to make it will be the least difficult. It does show that I need a dynamo too. I shall have to search the spares box for some. Thanks for the link. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Have made up the sub roof for two of the coaches. Alas I only made two sets of them. I will have to lean on someone to either make another couple or hope to pick up a correct profile roof at an up coming show. Time at work is tight at the moment so it looks like plan b might have to be the option. Any idea which shape best fits? I am all ears. As you can see the box is slowly emptying. Mostly the seats and bogies left richard. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Turns out I have decided to scratchbuild two sets. If only so I only have one system to think about and so all the roof lines look the same. It looks like it will work. Richard 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 Working on the seats. I think I have only made half the number I will need. It looks like I worked on one per side of coach rather than two. Once more showing I can’t count like I should be able to. scratch building these is going to be more complicated than the roof ribs...especially the sides of the seats. They were hard enough to cut out when I had the etched lines to work to. richard. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 It will be worth the efford Richard. They'll be quite an imposing and impressive rake when finished. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, James Harrison said: It will be worth the efford Richard. They'll be quite an imposing and impressive rake when finished. Thanks. I hope so. Though not being built at quite the rate that you manage. Richard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Please be seated. roof sub frames now fitted. The open ones are a bit flimsy so I will fit an extra strip under the longitudinal beams. Worth the effort cutting out all the seats, I think. Might change my mind when all the glazing goes in. Will not be running at club on Monday though as some hoped. Richard 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimwal Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Those carriages will look very good and complete time you come to running them. You are permitted a run without glazing if you wish to show off the seats and tables! Jim 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Roof experiments. Tried to do the plastic sheet hot water trick. First time nothing . Water must have been too cold. next poured just off boiling water and got these wrinkles. Melting as too hot or shrinking at different times? will try holding in the steam as the next experiment. Who has had success at forming plastic? Advice welcome. Thanks richard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I've only had success forming plastic roof profiles with hot water by firstly fastening the plastic sheet in place tightly over a continuous wooden former of the desired profile, in section a sort of inverted U shape with the correct curvature. I found I had to leave a considerable amount of waste at each edge, fastened down firmly and evenly throughout its length to the flat sides of the U. I screwed strips of wood in place on the sides to achieve that. I also had to make the roof about an inch longer than need at each end, because the very ends did not form to the true curve and had to be cut off. I know of no reason why water actually on the boil, in a large pan, cannot be used, taking care to avoid scalding yourself of course, so long as the plastic isn't left in it for too long. You can cool it rapidly afterwards in cold water, release it and check the profile. If it hasn't quite submitted to required degree of curvature the fasten it back on the former and give it another dunk in the boiling water! Forming complete tubes for boiler barrels I always trap the plastic tightly between metal tubes of slightly different diameters, before the boiling dip.. That works very well. You can't do the same sort of think for a coach roof unless you can carve / sand matching inner and outer profile formers - not very practical I think. Maybe Geoff Kent's method for cold-forming of profiles in plastic should be tried instead if you don't fancy creating a former? It is probably described somewhere in internet-land. It can be slow and tedious but controlled smooth curves can be formed, with care and patience. It worked for two "lower half roofs" that I wanted for a GNR / ECJS profile of clerestory roof. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, gr.king said: I've only had success forming plastic roof profiles with hot water by firstly fastening the plastic sheet in place tightly over a continuous wooden former of the desired profile, in section a sort of inverted U shape with the correct curvature. I found I had to leave a considerable amount of waste at each edge, fastened down firmly and evenly throughout its length to the flat sides of the U. I screwed strips of wood in place on the sides to achieve that. I also had to make the roof about an inch longer than need at each end, because the very ends did not form to the true curve and had to be cut off. I know of no reason why water actually on the boil, in a large pan, cannot be used, taking care to avoid scalding yourself of course, so long as the plastic isn't left in it for too long. You can cool it rapidly afterwards in cold water, release it and check the profile. If it hasn't quite submitted to required degree of curvature the fasten it back on the former and give it another dunk in the boiling water! Forming complete tubes for boiler barrels I always trap the plastic tightly between metal tubes of slightly different diameters, before the boiling dip.. That works very well. You can't do the same sort of think for a coach roof unless you can carve / sand matching inner and outer profile formers - not very practical I think. Maybe Geoff Kent's method for cold-forming of profiles in plastic should be tried instead if you don't fancy creating a former? It is probably described somewhere in internet-land. It can be slow and tedious but controlled smooth curves can be formed, with care and patience. It worked for two "lower half roofs" that I wanted for a GNR / ECJS profile of clerestory roof. Thanks. the second attempt was slightly more successful. Not consistently flat enough though. I will think about the wood former, but will look at the other possible ways to form one. Planks and filler maybe. Perhaps the Barnum profile is similar enough to other roof shapes to buy an off the shelf perhaps less or mark 1. I will explore at Warley. richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, richard i said: Thanks. the second attempt was slightly more successful. Not consistently flat enough though. I will think about the wood former, but will look at the other possible ways to form one. Planks and filler maybe. Perhaps the Barnum profile is similar enough to other roof shapes to buy an off the shelf perhaps less or mark 1. I will explore at Warley. richard Hi Richard Have you considered laminated plastic card roofs? I use 5mm strips for the lower sections. As my woodworking skills are carp trying to make a former would be a nightmare. When making a roof like an LNER one where there are compound curves it is easier. Oh to be at the club tomorrow night to show you. Just file to shape. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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