RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2015 Funny you should say that, as that's exactly what we did when we built Treneglos.Although, to be fair, that was more about the impending birth of Spams first baby rather than any kind of best practice being rolled out... Didn't we do most of the heavy duty scenics on BCB before trackwork as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Didn't we do most of the heavy duty scenics on BCB before trackwork as well? The picture's looking better by the minute. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Cook Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yes we did, and the track department was forever removing it from his clothes and getting cursed for walking it into the house Geoff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHemmings Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I can remember helping spams stick that fluff on bcb. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 I can remember helping spams stick that fluff on bcb. Mike Another admission of guilt, that's two of them now. And no, I really don't need to know where the fluff came from... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHemmings Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 That means you know that I know were it came from. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 That means you know that I know were it came from. Mike Many years of Damian picking his belly button? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Many years of Damian picking his belly button? At least you stuck with the belly button. Anyway I'm trying to concentrate here and plan out the fidlleyard... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Having adopted the plan that young Spams had kindly drawn, link; http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/102560-lb-project-narrow-lines-through-bratton/?p=2009507 (the second one, twenty foot long.) I've started to think about what sort of fiddle yard I may need/ can have. I'm working on the basis that I'll have all five locomotives hauling a representative mix of trains of both the main periods of L&B and Southern liveries. On this basis I think I'm looking at 6 loops in the fiddle yard and perhaps a short siding for the track cleaning train. The sixth loop could be used for 'guest appearances'. Once I've got the main lines around on narrow curved boards I figure that I've got 12 feet to play with for the fiddleyards. This will probably mean 3 x 4 foot long boards at 2 foot wide - perhaps less. The points are a bit longer than 12"... In order to get 6 sidings there needs to be three a minimum of 3 points in a row; So... The point's should fit on one board either end and leave most (bar 2) of the loops at the minimum of 5 feet length, which is roughly what the loop length is around the front. As the train lengths will vary I'm comfortable to have a couple of loops slightly shorter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Why can't the FY loops start on the two curved boards ? That way you could have either longer loops, or two yards on narrower boards, with the ends of the loops on the middle board opposite the scenic section. Edited December 21, 2015 by Stubby47 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Why can't the FY loops start on the two curved boards ? That way you could have either longer loops, or two yards on narrower boards, with the ends of the loops on the middle board opposite the scenic section. The curved boards will be minimum width simple curves and as long as I can get the same loop length in the fiddle as at the front I'm not really bothered. Lets keep it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 How about starting with a Y turnout in the centre (its shorter anyway) then 2 left hand turnouts on one side and 2 right hand turnouts on the other. May give a bit more room Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 I've managed to delete this post; In terms of the fiddleyard board width, my thinking is as follows; Using an end view of a coach with duckets; So add 3/4 inch either side for fat fingers and we get to 3 2/5 inches per road. This means for 6 roads the boards will be around 21 inches wide. Of course these sorts of track centres may well mean that points have to be spread out further. I'd try and work it out but my printer-scanner has given up. I'll try not to delete it this time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 And I deleted my reply, because it made no sense after you deleted yours! The amount of overhang takes some getting used to. I swapped the temporary P4 wheels in your wagon chassis for some 00 ones of the correct diameter last night; even gauged for 16.5 it looks strange! What back to back are we aiming for?; I might regauge them properly tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 And I deleted my reply, because it made no sense after you deleted yours! The amount of overhang takes some getting used to. I swapped the temporary P4 wheels in your wagon chassis for some 00 ones of the correct diameter last night; even gauged for 16.5 it looks strange! What back to back are we aiming for?; I might regauge them properly tonight. And I deleted my reply to your reply because it made no sense after you deleted it because Damian deleted his. My head hurts... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 And I deleted my reply, because it made no sense after you deleted yours! The amount of overhang takes some getting used to. I swapped the temporary P4 wheels in your wagon chassis for some 00 ones of the correct diameter last night; even gauged for 16.5 it looks strange! What back to back are we aiming for?; I might regauge them properly tonight. Found it ! http://o14group.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/14mm-standards-02.pdf 12.4mm to 12.5mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 Great, I'll dig out my best regauging hammer tonight 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Great, I'll dig out my best regauging hammer tonight I'm wondering if its going to be worth me building a few points and then lending them out to whoever is building stock to allow for some testing ? I could pre-build the fiddle yard points for instance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 Good idea, not sure it needs to be a point. A reverse curve to your minimum radius and a short length of straight track for coupling setting would be useful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Good idea, not sure it needs to be a point. A reverse curve to your minimum radius and a short length of straight track for coupling setting would be useful. Ok. So a 'S' shape going into to a straight with a coupling mounted at the end on a block. Does it need check rails? I'm thinking one for Stafford and one for the Northern contingent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 When do you want the blobs of plaster adding? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 When do you want the blobs of plaster adding? Before the track... any thoughts on land form heights? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Ok. So a 'S' shape going into to a straight with a coupling mounted at the end on a block. Does it need check rails? I'm thinking one for Stafford and one for the Northern contingent. The minimum radius I'm working to is 36 inches. I'll simulate the reverse curves to look like back to back points and put check rails in where they would be on the points. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 The minimum radius I'm working to is 36 inches. IMG_0919.JPG I'll simulate the reverse curves to look like back to back points and put check rails in where they would be on the points. Something like this... Obviously with longer curves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2015 Before the track...any thoughts on land form heights?I was holding off until you'd settled on the layout size / track plan and it was drawn up with correct point sizes etc. I wasn't 100% sure what conclusions the track / Templot collective have reached. Moving the track around could make quite a difference to the landforms. (see, uncle Gringo has taught me well...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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