RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 23, 2017 Very helpful! One board on top of another? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 One board on top of another? Andy Failing that, it'll just get lobbed in the back of the van or what ever vessel is near by... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I suppose it doesn't matter as you have a board across the front. How will the finished boards be packed / transported? Our normal 'standard' is to have bolt on ends that are configured in such a way that they interlock when stacked. I'll show you what I mean when we get to that bit, the base scenery will go on first so as to determine the depth the end boards need to be. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2017 Joking aside, why do you have the buildings removable ? If each board has end protectors and are stacked when being transported, would the buildings not be protected if left in place ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Joking aside, why do you have the buildings removable ? If each board has end protectors and are stacked when being transported, would the buildings not be protected if left in place ? I think its a personal preference thing. The buildings on DitD are all stuck down bar the signal box. for BCB they all come off and get packed in boxes. If you remove the buildings there's a risk of them getting damaged from moving them, if you leave them on the boards there's a risk of them getting damaged from moving the boards. Its a no win compromise in my view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2017 Joking aside, why do you have the buildings removable ? If each board has end protectors and are stacked when being transported, would the buildings not be protected if left in place ? Good question Stu, and one where there's a range of opinions rather than a right answer. From all the layouts I've been involved with over the years, my preference is for delicate buildings to be removable and packed safely away in boxes. I've seen more damage happen to buildings when they are left on the layout. A heavy board being loaded into a van or storage space can do a fair bit of damage. Cats and mice can also be an issue ;-p The point is that buildings can take a huge amount of time and effort to make and are worth looking after. Yes the can get damaged when being removed but the fact they are removable makes them easier to repair. Those I'm building for Pencarrow will be removable although they will spend most of the time on the layout as it will be permanently up at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Good question Stu, and one where there's a range of opinions rather than a right answer. From all the layouts I've been involved with over the years, my preference is for delicate buildings to be removable and packed safely away in boxes. I've seen more damage happen to buildings when they are left on the layout. A heavy board being loaded into a van or storage space can do a fair bit of damage. Cats and mice can also be an issue ;-p The point is that buildings can take a huge amount of time and effort to make and are worth looking after. Yes the can get damaged when being removed but the fact they are removable makes them easier to repair. Those I'm building for Pencarrow will be removable although they will spend most of the time on the layout as it will be permanently up at home. I think its also worth adding that the buildings on DitD are only tacked on with glue, i.e. they could be removed if need be.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 A little progress this morning, I've cut the trackbed board (with its angled front) and the side supports for back board No 3. Now I've decided that the board is to be narrower I need to adjust the position of one of the locating dowels. The red line shows the reduced width of the new board against board No 2. You can see that I need to bring the dowel in to the right a couple on inches. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 First job today is to make the adjustments to the board end now its not going to be as wide. Basically this will involve moving the outer locating dowel inwards by a couple of inches. Here I'm working out how far in it needs to come. The blue line is the new board edge, the left pilot hole is where the existing dowel would be located and the pilot hole to the right of the cutter is for the bolt hole. So where I'm holding the bit is about where we need to be. Once the new pilot hole has been drilled the dowel hole can now be cut out. And here the new dowel holes are cut, not ideal but necessary. Next job is to cut the board end to its new length. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I've got the board end cut to its new length and I'm now fitting the timber frame to it, one of the vertical corner blocks first. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Now the horizontal cross piece. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Now I've offered the new board No 3 end up to Board No 2. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is roughly where the trackbed board will end up on board No 3. Note the odd angle of the temporary leg at the far end, and yes, it kept falling over every time I stepped back to take the picture... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Time for pub, it is Sunday Lunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Time for pub, it is Sunday Lunch. Good idea, that had not occurred to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm gluing the two side members on to the board end. This board will taper slightly at the front so I've put a slight angle on one of the corner blocks. Now it really might be time for the pub... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 I've spent a few minutes today thinking about back board No 3. I've turned the part built frame the right way up and placed the track bed on top. I think it will be ok, you can't really see that the board narrows by around an inch at the open end. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 And with the track plan laid on top. You can see at the open end once the platform ends the board configuration now allows for the embankment to fall away from the edge the of the track bed - the whole reason this board has been built narrower 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 Still think you could have built this board as a 'dropped' one, with the trackbed on stilts, but it looks like you've got a plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Still think you could have built this board as a 'dropped' one, with the trackbed on stilts, but it looks like you've got a plan. I don't know what we would have gained from that. The board would have been a lot higher and had the potential for a board joint along the length of the steep embankment. It's too wide to combine the front and back boards together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ah, I thought if the board was lower it would be at 'base' level, but I see what you mean about the split in the embankment. I'll shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ah, I thought if the board was lower it would be at 'base' level, but I see what you mean about the split in the embankment. I'll shut up. The hill behind the track is very steep upwards. If I'd built the board down to base level as you suggest I'd end up with baseboards at least 2 feet high. This is about sensible compromise and minimising the layout 'volume'. And this is before we put the trees on, something young spams has mentioned more than once. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2017 Trees Lots of tall trees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Trees Lots of tall trees Stubzie, see what you've done now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2017 Stubzie, see what you've done now... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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