Warley National Model Railway Exhibition 2015

[dasatcopthorne]

Hi RJS1977, according to the leaflet they were on stand C20A which gives me the impression that they were a late entrant and I cannot find them on the plan or list either.

 

I agree the double decker turntable was very well executed and showed some fine modelling although I found it a bit boring (like I find most shed scenes) and unreal - it's completely imaginary. I don't know if there was any such construction anywhere in the world, no doubt somebody will inform us soon. Nevertheless a superb model and demonstrates the wide variety of subjects this hobby can happily incorporate.

 

Regards  

 

They were next to us and I can confirm it's imaginary.

 

Dave

[lapford34102]

Just to say thanks to all the Warley team for a great and well organised weekend, thoroughly enjoyed if even if it was totally knackering. Drewry was in the  micro layout section, not sure if the barriers were there to keep the public out or all of us in !

Amongst others had a couple of interesting conversations about backscenes  and have to say thanks to whoever it was who took time to comment that every time he looked at the layout something was happening. 

Driving into the hall to unload was somewhat surreal, the drive home would have benefitted from sonar and a depth gauge.

An experience.

 

Stu

[Phatbob]

I'd like to thanks those RMwebbers who introduced themselves over the weekend.  Always a pleasure.  Thanks for the kind words and compliments too.  It's a real lift to the spirits to have one's efforts appreciated by fellow modellers.
Thanks also to everybody at the Warley club for their efforts over the weekend.  It's sometimes hard to remember that such a vast and "professional" undertaking is actually a club show run by volunteers and not a commercial one.
Finally, and perhaps controversially, a vote of appreciation to the staff at the NEC.  How do Brummies manage to be so indefatigably cheerful?  
 

[Ron Ron Ron]

Is there any more information on those Class 140/141 body shells spotted by Big Jim?

[davepallant]

Never saw that - and I can't find Nelevation in the floor plan - where were they?

 

Richard

 

PS - one other amazing feature I saw was the double decker turntable on one of the layouts!

 

I was half on the look out for Nelevation after seeing them at the International N Gauge Show. I almost missed them all day. They were at the back of quite a small booth so easy to walk past on the way to the next big table top array of boxed trains. Very interesting concept and I can see how the cost can be justified for the right customers in terms of fiddle yard replacement and space. Nelevation announced on 29th Nov that they had hit their target to begin production. 

 

Dave

[ELTEL]

I was half on the look out for Nelevation after seeing them at the International N Gauge Show. I almost missed them all day. They were at the back of quite a small booth so easy to walk past on the way to the next big table top array of boxed trains. Very interesting concept and I can see how the cost can be justified for the right customers in terms of fiddle yard replacement and space. Nelevation announced on 29th Nov that they had hit their target to begin production. 

 

Dave

They were as said a late booking hence the small stand and not on the floor plan.

 

I had a long chat with the owners and as you say they had hit there target to start production.

 

I wish them the best of luck.

 

Terry

[Patriot87003]

Nice Warley products summary in today's MREmag, including Peco OHLE: http://www.mremag.com/index.php

I went to Warley on Saturday and enjoyed the exhibition. I totally missed this news/announcement of the PECO OHLE that is shown on the MREmag article. Does anyone have any more details or information?

 

I remember a few years ago that PECO announced they would develop a range of OO OHLE but it seemed to go quiet after the introduction of Dapol's OHLE.

[Revolution Ben]

I was half on the look out for Nelevation after seeing them at the International N Gauge Show. I almost missed them all day. They were at the back of quite a small booth so easy to walk past on the way to the next big table top array of boxed trains. Very interesting concept and I can see how the cost can be justified for the right customers in terms of fiddle yard replacement and space. Nelevation announced on 29th Nov that they had hit their target to begin production. 

 

Dave

 

Hello all,

 

The man behind Nelevation is Allen Pearson, who is a 2mm and N gauge modeller and responsible for the Ribblehead layout seen recently in Model Rail magazine.

 

His fiddle yard wasn't big enough, and he lacked space, so he came up with the Nelevator.  As a product designer and developer in the pharmaceutical and drug dosing business he knows a lot about low volume, high end manufacture and all the components of the nelevator have been very well engineered IMO, having been one of the "guinea pigs" asked to test build it!

 

I don't know why there is a price differential between OO and N though....

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

[gr.king]

Did anybody else notice the Mock-Dublo LMS Beyer Garratts on the Hornby Dublo layout, complete with very convincing mock factory boxes in 3-rail and 2-rail styles? I suspect the loco bodies were resin or plastic but on account of being supposedly "on duty" I didn't have time to hang around asking questions about the background to the locos. I wondered if they were some kind of collector's club specials, rather like the V2s of a few years ago, clearly using the 2-6-4T chassis. Does anybody know more?

[brittannia]

I used to buy my tickets directly from Warley to avoid the booking fee - until I realised the cost of two envelopes plus stamps was more than the Ticketmaster booking fee!

If you can access an Ian Allan shop, they sell Warley Show tickets {this year £12}

[Kelly]

Hello all,

 

The man behind Nelevation is Allen Pearson, who is a 2mm and N gauge modeller and responsible for the Ribblehead layout seen recently in Model Rail magazine.

 

His fiddle yard wasn't big enough, and he lacked space, so he came up with the Nelevator.  As a product designer and developer in the pharmaceutical and drug dosing business he knows a lot about low volume, high end manufacture and all the components of the nelevator have been very well engineered IMO, having been one of the "guinea pigs" asked to test build it!

 

I don't know why there is a price differential between OO and N though....

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

 

 

They are a nice idea, but for me cost prohibitive sadly. I recall an article in a Railway Modeller or some other publication that did a similar thing.

 

The price differential between OO and N could be accounted for by the extra weight/size and materials costs perhaps?

[Lord Flashheart]

Is there any more information on those Class 140/141 body shells spotted by Big Jim?

I believe their ex MTK kits that were taken on by NNK and then both ranges by Phoenix Precision paints, could be worth an email or call to see what the score is with them.

 

Rob

[Ross34]

Hi RJS1977, according to the leaflet they were on stand C20A which gives me the impression that they were a late entrant and I cannot find them on the plan or list either.

 

I agree the double decker turntable was very well executed and showed some fine modelling although I found it a bit boring (like I find most shed scenes) and unreal - it's completely imaginary. I don't know if there was any such construction anywhere in the world, no doubt somebody will inform us soon. Nevertheless a superb model and demonstrates the wide variety of subjects this hobby can happily incorporate.

 

Regards  

 

 

Continental Modeller, November 2015  https://www.exacteditions.com/read/continentalmodeller/november-2015-46712/1/2/

 

Fantastic idea and great modelling .. its this kind of concept and "out the box" thinking practiced by our European (and US) cousins that convinced me to abandon UK modelling.

[Crewlisle]

Just read through 10 or so pages of varying takes on this massive event............

 

I cannot understand how some people manage to 'do' the show in 3 hours or so. Overall, we spent 15 hours there and for the first time I think I saw most of it. I actually spent less time looking at general trade stands and more looking at specialists and layouts. Most of us have a jaundiced eye, I suspect, and focus on those subjects that interest us most. This year I made a point of looking at as many things as I could - some I lingered at not, others I returned to. Highlights for me were:

 

The World's End - simply double track OO passing over Knaresborough Viaduct and through a representation of Knaresborough. Excellent. At one point this large layout was under the control of one person. Superb architectural modelling. Just wonderful.  (there seemed to be several larger layouts with fewer operators - in the past some look busier than a Pyramid construction site)

 

Bruntisland 1883 - firstly because it is of a period that is so hard to model - the later Victorian period - nobody alive knows what it was really like - all there is are pictures. Then it is so big, and it's in 18.83. Some lovely ship models, and a fascinating bollard-shunting, coal-loading-hoist feature. Sadly as mentioned by others parts of this layout seemed a bit fragile, but I think I can accept that, things go wrong and we're all amateurs at the end of the day.

 

Wheal Elizabeth - compact, perfect running, well lit. Ideal.

 

Crewlisle - I have to mention this. It's everybody's spare bedroom, trains running everywhere, packed with features. A great train set - only it wasn't a train set - it was a well thought out and well prosecuted model railway. Masterful use of space. And no fiddle yard - did everybody else notice that? I bet lots didn't. To the builder it's a waste of space - and cost of course - so there is a feature to exchange whole trains in cassettes stored under the boards when they go through a hidden return loop.

 

Hassel Harbour Bridge - Great O gauge model. I don't normally like O gauge as I think sometimes the scenery, buildings and accessories let down some excellent track and rolling stock.  HHB overcomes this and is awesome. The bridge is great but I like the mine on the other side.

 

The Acme in Scale 7 (I think I've got this right) - one model locomotive on here could have turned my eye - a Class 37 with sound.

 

Zwaaghoek - 0-16.5 from The Netherlands. Full of atmosphere, some superb characterful buildings, arranged to make you look into the model. And a little Vincent Van Gogh (with 2 ears) painting the scene - yes the painting was of the actual layout. (Curiously we saw Vincent on another layout - he gets about that one!). A breeze/draught near the layout caused the smoke from the locos to blow most realistically when we stood there. So convincing was this I wondered if there was a fan on the layout - but no, it was an ambient draught in the hall but very fortuitous.

 

Mers les Bains - French NG this time, but again well captured some excellent figures. So often the figures on 7mm look like small dolls or straw dollies. Some good and clever scenery work.

 

Valencia Harbour - minimalist Irish modelling, barren, windswept - one expected Will Hay, Moore Marriott and Graham Moffatt to tumble out of the wooden station building. Fine modelling.

 

Mjolner Verk - Scandinavian and it showed, clean simple lines, running impeccably, superb presentation. This was the one I wanted to take home. No doubt not everybody's choice. But I liked it. Although the operators made me feel very short - must be the Viking genes!

 

Finally I will mention O'Connell Street - the hoouge model of the famous Dublin thoroughfare. Lots of trams and also buses running on a Faller car system basis. Plenty to see. Presently involved in building a complex tram layout I know how hard it is to get mainly urban scenes right. So hats off to these guys for sheer scale of this layout.  

 

There was nothing wrong with any of the other layouts but these didn't take my eye so readily as those I have mentioned. I spent several happy hours watching and talking to the operators. 

 

Finally, I will return to fiddle yards. The lack of one on Crewlisle had already got me thinking beyond my own plans for a 're-usable' fiddle yard................

 

 

Thanks for the complement.  I think we lived up to my boast of running two & sometimes as many as four trains simultaneously.  Most of the time we were running three trains simultaneously, thanks to some smart running by my number one operator Nick.

 

Peter

 

 

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[kirtleypete]

I'm glad you enjoyed Mers les Bains. A lot of the figures are 1/35th scale as used by military modellers, close enough to 1/32nd to get away with. 

 

Peter

[gordon s]

Continental Modeller, November 2015  https://www.exacteditions.com/read/continentalmodeller/november-2015-46712/1/2/

 

Fantastic idea and great modelling .. its this kind of concept and "out the box" thinking practiced by our European (and US) cousins that convinced me to abandon UK modelling.

 

That's a relief.  Maybe they got the idea from here....

 

[RichardS]

Continental Modeller, November 2015  https://www.exacteditions.com/read/continentalmodeller/november-2015-46712/1/2/

 

Fantastic idea and great modelling .. its this kind of concept and "out the box" thinking practiced by our European (and US) cousins that convinced me to abandon UK modelling.

 

 

I'm glad you enjoyed Mers les Bains. A lot of the figures are 1/35th scale as used by military modellers, close enough to 1/32nd to get away with. 

 

Peter

 

I think these two posts highlight points which all modellers of whatever discipline can take advantage of. 1) Look outside the boundaries for inspiration. Just because you don't like continental models or GWR or whatever, models of such can still teach and give ideas. 2) look at other sources for materials, 'stuff' and techniques. Slight scale discrepancies will not be noticeable.

 

Regards

Richard

[Barry Ten]

 

 

 

I don't know why there is a price differential between OO and N though....

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

 

It looks as if the 00 version is a little wider and taller than the N:

 

http://www.nelevation.com/specifications/

 

It's an excellent-looking product and I'm very interested in the 00 version. I'd have made good use of the N, too, but

it would be impossible to fit it into my existing layout due to vertical clearance issues.

[roundhouse]

It looks as if the 00 version is a little wider and taller than the N:

 

http://www.nelevation.com/specifications/

 

It's an excellent-looking product and I'm very interested in the 00 version. I'd have made good use of the N, too, but

it would be impossible to fit it into my existing layout due to vertical clearance issues.

I would need a 12ft long n scale one and a much bigger vehicle to transport it but otherwise they do look superb.

[Barry Ten]

I would need a 12ft long n scale one and a much bigger vehicle to transport it but otherwise they do look superb.

 

Perhaps a bit impractical but I've wondered about using two of them end to end, with long trains being uncoupled/coupled in the middle. Probably

more hassle than it would be worth.

[RichardS]

As I mentioned in my earlier post I spotted a couple of themes at Warley and here are some photos of the first one. Apologies for the quality of some, but my camera-phone was on max zoom to get them. 

 

I emphasise that this is meant to be a humorous post - it's only when a lot of layouts come together that this quite understandable railway modellers' habit comes to attention. But first imagine the scene.................

 

Fred: "what yer got there then Charlie boy?"

Charlie: "ass a bus Fred. Thought it would look good on the layout. Where shall I put ut?"

 

And here's the rest of the story......   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Someone had to be different.)

 

 

If I missed your bus on your bridge (or under it) my apologies - it is nothing personal. :-)

So many green ones too!

 

Regards

RichardS

 

 

 

 

[ullypug]

As I mentioned in my earlier post I spotted a couple of themes at Warley and here are some photos of the first one. Apologies for the quality of some, but my camera-phone was on max zoom to get them. 

 

I emphasise that this is meant to be a humorous post - it's only when a lot of layouts come together that this quite understandable railway modellers' habit comes to attention. But first imagine the scene.................

 

Fred: "what yer got there then Charlie boy?"

Charlie: "ass a bus Fred. Thought it would look good on the layout. Where shall I put ut?"

 

And here's the rest of the story......   

 

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(Someone had to be different.)

 

 

If I missed your bus on your bridge (or under it) my apologies - it is nothing personal. :-)

So many green ones too!

 

Regards

RichardS

Ah yes, but how many are being secretly ironic?

We even change ours during the exhibition

The next layout may have a bridge on a bus...

[George Woodcock]

Hello

 

   Towcester had to have a bus as John owns one and is a member of a bus group. It's also different as it features a driver under instruction vehicle. Also it is  green as United Counties was the local bus company in the Towcester area.  Buses do help to set a scene in a specific area which is one reason why so many people have them. Anyway the new layout won't have any buses on it as none ran on the only road . It does however have a few tractors on it. John likes buses, I like tractors and we both like trains so we easy to please.

 

                                                                                                   Cheers

 

                                                                                                            George

[roundhouse]

I would like to point out that there were no buses on Appledore till Bob got his hands on it as I prefer convertibles and pink brash cars...ah they Are still there.

 

No wonder all those lines shut with that many busses!

 

Edit

 

There is a bus on Santa Barbara but no bridges to put them on

[RichardS]

Ah yes, but how many are being secretly ironic?

We even change ours during the exhibition

The next layout may have a bridge on a bus...

 

I would like to think all of them were being ironic. Especially the serious P4 modellers...... :-) lol 

(love Wheal Elizabeth and it's even better after the extension I feel)