Porcy Mane Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Why hammer Hornby because "A" gets his goodies before "B"? Not that long ago we were all wondering if Hornby was going to go the wall. Thankfully that hasn't happened (Thanks Hatton's). I don't pay much attention to Hornby's delivery dates when I take into account some of their previous releases were delivered much earlier than expected. e.g.the Q6. P P.s. "A" may stand for Aus. and "B" may stand for Britain but then again, it may not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Sorry Gents, I really didn't want to start a firestorm with this. This was advertised on EBayOz by a local model shop, (Perth Hobby Centre). At first, I looked and thought it could be a mistake. I ' Bought it now', it was posted within 18hours and delivered today. (Thank you PHC). I did this with the D16, they were available here before UK, at a competitive price, (relatively). I still have Peckett pre-orders in the UK and will honour them, nameplates are on order from Narrow Planet. FYI. 'Dodo' plates are 2mm high, I have hopefully resized my NP plates order. Tomorrow is track test time, more dead frogs than a pool in Summer.. I will report! Meanwhile, please relax and wait, they are worth waiting for. Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Glad to see the 11th is promised, Xmas Eve would have meant a long extra wait till New Year period unless delivered by carrier at extra expense. Hattons have up-dated to the 11th as well, so unless caught in the Xmas parcel and postal rush, Dodo should be here in time for Xmas. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Hmm.... just noticed that the release date mentioned by Hornby is a Sunday, so they must be hurrying things along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 While we're all waiting, here's the test card. My 7mm kit-built W4. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted December 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) All that detail and you put the left flag on upside down, shocking! ;-) Stunning model could we have a cab shot please. Edited December 5, 2016 by farren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 All that detail and you put the left flag on upside down, shocking! ;-) Perhaps the person putting the flag on suddenly felt unwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Is it really upside down? I can never tell. It looks the same as the other one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Is it really upside down? I can never tell. It looks the same as the other one to me. No, they are the right way up! God Save the Queen! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 No, they are the right way up! God Save the Queen! Another one who doesn't know how to hang the flag. Broad white at the top next to the pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Well the running tests have been started today, and I am pleased to report that 'Dodo' runs almost silently and has no trouble with Peco code 100 insulfrog points and crossings, even double and single slips are negotiated at very slow speed with no hiccup. One thing I did find: I think some of the team working on the Original 'Merchant Navy' spent some time on this project, and designed an oil bath for the Peckett! Copious amounts of lubricant were on the gear wheel and rear axle. Some of this has made its way on to the area of the wheel where the pick-up bears. I used a tissue and ran the loco. upside down to clean off some of the excess. I will keep an eye on this area as it could affect pick-up; all four pick-ups were perfectly adjusted on this example. Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) On the flag the Broad white band at the top should be next to the flag pole/support if it's not its a sign of being in distress ! Edited December 6, 2016 by johnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The r/h one (from the viewers perspective) certainly is. On very close inspection, the bar to the diagonal cross* is definitely closer to the upper portion of the blue**. On Edwardians post the relevant spacing is on the l/h side (the hoist) of his picture of the Union Flag. * Northern Ireland ** Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Perhaps we could re-create the flags in 4mm when Dodo arrives on these shores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Email from Hattons - Manchester Shipping Canal expected 16/12/2016 and Huntley & Palmers expected 17/01/2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 Email from Hattons - Manchester Shipping Canal expected 16/12/2016 and Huntley & Palmers expected 17/01/2017 and Dodo on the sixteenth too. Cheers, Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 Email from Hattons - Manchester Shipping Canal expected 16/12/2016 and Huntley & Palmers expected 17/01/2017 Just got that email too so it looks like that will have to be my New Year present to me and I shall have to buy myself something else for Christmas! Decisions, decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 Is it really upside down? I can never tell. It looks the same as the other one to me. The one on the left is the wrong way round. The broader white stripe should be adjacent to the flag pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 No, they are the right way up! God Save the Queen! That is the correct way up if you assume the flag pole is at the left hand end. If the flag pole were at the right hand end it would be the wrong way - it should always be the broader white stripe on top at the end nearest the flag pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 So two versions before Christmas, very good, both on order, on the 16th, with HP in Jan. Strangely, Hattons show the Manchester Ship canal Peckett to cost more than Dodo........maybe due to pre-order price altering, or they are keeping to a price promise on one version. Display shelf layout near completed, just an old style factory unit to complete, made in card and ply, with paper overlays, The derrick crane now works correctly, got to find three micro servos to modify and fit, raising the beam, lifting the hook, and swinging the beam, plus an electromagnet to do the lift from an open wagon. or flats. Stephen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) The one on the left is the wrong way round. The broader white stripe should be adjacent to the flag pole. Quite right - flying the flag upside down is a pet hate of mine*. When I rule the country is will be a criminal offence I once had a big argument with one of the European government establishments in Brussels that had our flag upside down. They argued there was no right way so they were firmly put in their place. One hour later it was the right way up! Roy * along with calling it the Union Jack. Edited December 6, 2016 by Roy Langridge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Cat Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I remember the Baseball World Series in 1992 when the Toronto Blue Jays were playing in Atlanta and the chap leading the Toronto players out on the field had got the Canadian flag the wrong way up. Not the most difficult flag to spot the correct orientation I would have thought. That nearly caused an International incident as the Canadian fans were threatening to reciprocate in the next game in Toronto and the USA were outraged at the prospect of someone intentionally flying their flag upside down. The American media were viewing it as almost a declaration of war and it went as far as inter-govermental talks to defuse things. In the event the Canadian fans took a more humourous approach with lots of Canadian flags around the stadium with annotations such as "This way up" and "The stalk goes at the bottom".Here's a thought though, If flying another country's flag is an insult, why aren't Indonesia and Poland in a permanent state of conflict? Anyway, returning to the topic, for anyone still looking to order the little Peckett, Model Railways Direct are still taking orders on Dodo, although the other two are showing as sold out. I just ordered one even though I haven't modelled in 00 gauge for more than 40 years. It is just such a charming little loco I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I remember the Baseball World Series in 1992 when the Toronto Blue Jays were playing in Atlanta and the chap leading the Toronto players out on the field had got the Canadian flag the wrong way up. Not the most difficult flag to spot the correct orientation I would have thought. That nearly caused an International incident as the Canadian fans were threatening to reciprocate in the next game in Toronto and the USA were outraged at the prospect of someone intentionally flying their flag upside down. The American media were viewing it as almost a declaration of war and it went as far as inter-govermental talks to defuse things. In the event the Canadian fans took a more humourous approach with lots of Canadian flags around the stadium with annotations such as "This way up" and "The stalk goes at the bottom". Here's a thought though, If flying another country's flag is an insult, why aren't Indonesia and Poland in a permanent state of conflict? Anyway, returning to the topic, for anyone still looking to order the little Peckett, Model Railways Direct are still taking orders on Dodo, although the other two are showing as sold out. I just ordered one even though I haven't modelled in 00 gauge for more than 40 years. It is just such a charming little loco I couldn't resist. The Jays had last laugh though and won the series Looks like a late prezzie this year. I'll just take it as being an extended Christmas Cheers, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The r/h one (from the viewers perspective) certainly is. On very close inspection, the bar to the diagonal cross* is definitely closer to the upper portion of the blue**. On Edwardians post the relevant spacing is on the l/h side (the hoist) of his picture of the Union Flag. * Northern Ireland ** Scotland Not quite correct. They are the crosses of St George for England, St Andrew for Scotland and St Patrick for Ireland. The St Patrick's cross is still occasionally used in Ireland, on both sides of the border. It's often seen in the crowd at the rugby. Northern Ireland has the St George cross with a red hand in a star topped with a crown. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 can we have a separate flags thread for flaggy musings and leave this one to discussing Pecketts!!? cheers, Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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