David Todd Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Here is a plan,of the Dover Town Yard, Before it was lifted in 1996. Edited February 2, 2016 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 When did the buffer stop turn up? Network rail forward planning? Graham. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) When did the buffer stop turn up? Network rail forward planning? Screen shot 2016-02-02 at 21.46.00.png Graham. Which one G ? The yellow one on the track or the red one,behind the Defender ? Edited February 2, 2016 by David Todd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The red one, Network rail know something we don't? G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Network Rail's media department have published something new, dated today: http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/railway-detectives-piece-together-history-of-dover-sea-wall Engineers from Network Rail and its contractors Costain have turned detective to tackle the challenge of fixing the damaged sea wall at Dover... While Network Rail has excellent records of many of its Victorian structures, the Southern Railway – which existed from 1923 to 1947 - did not keep many documents on the work it undertook at the site on Shakespeare Beach in 1927... Edited February 3, 2016 by eastwestdivide 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I am still up atop of Shakey Cliff,having been out since 1000 hours. Here,,is my view,while I eat my lunch today. Taken poorly with the iPad. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Lucky you having somewhere like this to eat your lunch and also bracing I expect nice photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Today at the beach, Here is your answer Graham. More, lots more photos, later. P1270556 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 2 x Class 66s P1270510 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270501 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2016 Network Rail's media department have published something new, dated today: http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/railway-detectives-piece-together-history-of-dover-sea-wall So all is explained - they definitely haven't yet worked out how they're going to deal with it on a permanent basis because they don't yet really know enough about what is underneath the site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Mmm, the earlier Time Team references not too far from the truth perhaps. I also wondered about the relevance of "While Network Rail has excellent records of many of its Victorian structures" to the current GW electrification, but that's another story. Perhaps true for a certain value of 'many'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Mmm, the earlier Time Team references not too far from the truth perhaps. I also wondered about the relevance of "While Network Rail has excellent records of many of its Victorian structures" to the current GW electrification, but that's another story. Perhaps true for a certain value of 'many'. Perhaps true for a certain value of 'Victorian"? The problem there seems to have been more to do with the signalling cables laid in the 1960s onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Can anyone, get the time,that the 66s are booking off the site please. 1800. Today ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2016 Perhaps true for a certain value of 'Victorian"? The problem there seems to have been more to do with the signalling cables laid in the 1960s onwards. From what can be seen on the ground I would suggest the biggest problem that have had on the GWML has actually been the very mixed geology of the railway through the Thames valley. I think there have been three cable strikes and with the possible excepting of one of those (and a possible 4th which might or might not be connected with electrification works) they occurred on the Crossrail works are - albeit still on the GWML. The important thing is they would have had a far better understanding of the geology if the records from BR days had not been disposed of. I wonder if the same thing happened in respect of this job where the SR and BR SR records were all disposed of in the early days of privatisation which is a time when vast amounts of civil engineering days was dumped by Railtrack/the private companies which took a lot of it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2016 Realtime Trains shows a freight from Dover Priory at 21.25 to Hoo Junction Up Yard formed of a diesel loco plus 1600 tonnes. No idea if this is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Realtime Trains shows a freight from Dover Priory at 21.25 to Hoo Junction Up Yard formed of a diesel loco plus 1600 tonnes. No idea if this is it. It is the only one down there,on the beach. Thank you for the info. But, are they allowed to leave early, or do they have to stick to the time,to slot in between passenger services ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2016 But, are they allowed to leave early, or do they have to stick to the time,to slot in between passenger services ? No idea I'm afraid, but I can't see it being allowed out before the end of the peak, even though running counter-flow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 It is the only one down there,on the beach. Thank you for the info. But, are they allowed to leave early, or do they have to stick to the time,to slot in between passenger services ? They could call Ashford for a route earlier, if they're ready, but whether they'll get one is at the signaller's discretion. I'm surprised the train is shown as 1600t, as it's an empty working, isn't it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Timed for 1600t doesn't mean it is 1600t. Whoever put it on the system probably just used the same load in both directions. If it sets out on time it may therefore run a bit early later in its journey, if it doesn't catch anything else up on the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 They could call Ashford for a route earlier, if they're ready, but whether they'll get one is at the signaller's discretion. I'm surprised the train is shown as 1600t, as it's an empty working, isn't it? I did not count the wagons, 20-25, arrived all loaded with grade chippings. On arrival, the rear 6 were unloaded, then filled with spoil,dug out in the passed week. I should think, as I left at 1400hrs, only approx half the wagons, would return loaded. http://youtu.be/Z83OCLseK3o 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Well, "Banksey", the graffiti artist,has been called in, "if Folkestone, can try and sell one of my works in the USA", "Dover can have one too". "I will start here, have you brought enough can's, it's just under mile long !" P1270584 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Low flying helicopters and ship's, while having lunch at the top of Shakey cliff. P1270667 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270674 by ferriesdover, on Flickr P1270684 by ferriesdover, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 No idea I'm afraid, but I can't see it being allowed out before the end of the peak, even though running counter-flow. Hmm, Am not allowed out, after 2100 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2016 The old map you posted above made me look at how much railway has gone since then. The view now shocked me!!! nothing now remains apart from the up and down! https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.1160609,1.3055199,641m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 From a different angle, The nearest machine,is unloading,into 4x4 trucks, to be taken,up near the tunnel mouth;s,tipped on the down line, to be ready,to back fill the up line, when it's spoil,is dug out. The furthest machine, is,loading the "empties", with old spoil. I have to keep these videos; relatively short, due to uploading time's and my camera battery life,during upload,to youtube. http://youtu.be/YuZiQdWrET4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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